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I came across a few articles while looking at the article regarding same sex attracted judge refusing to perform opposite sex attracted marriages. They include some data you might find interesting. Because I am not good at cut and paste techniques (AuntiE finally taught me how to crayon ) I am going to post them as seperate threads. Read them over if you wish , Your thoughts are requested

CHILD MOLESTATION AND THE HOMOSEXUAL MOVEMENT
STEVE BALDWIN on 11 June, 2014

While the mainstream media has apparently refused to engage in any kind of investigative expose of the gay movement, it is not difficult to find support for child sex among key homosexual leaders if one searches their publications and literature. For example, the founder of the infamous homosexual group, ACT-UP, Larry Kramer, wrote in his book, Report form the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist, “In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it.” In a letter to the editor of a gay newspaper, Andy Humm, a key leader of one of America’s largest gay youth groups, Advocates for Youth, said, “no one should be denied basic civil rights because of his or her orientation, whether the person be homosexual, heterosexual, t***ssexual, t**********e, p*******e, sadist, masochist, asexual, wh**ever one can imagine… They are in themselves natural variations.”

A 1995 content analysis by Dr. Judith Reisman of the Institute for Media Education, focusing on advertisements in the nation’s most influential homosexual newspaper, The Advocate, reveals that 63% of the personal ads sought or offered prostitution; many of them openly soliciting boys. The Advocate also advertises a “penetrable boy doll – available in 3 provocative positions.” Reisman found that the number of erotic boy images per issue of The Advocate averaged 26.7. (23) Some homosexual publications, such as the southern Californian newspaper Update, are brazen enough to have ads asking for donations for the legal costs of homosexuals arrested for child molestation.

Indeed, NAMBLA and other pro-p*******e literature can be found wherever homosexuals congregate — homosexual bookstores, bathhouses, festivals, gay bars, etc. When Americans for T***h About Homosexuality leader Peter LaBarbera asked one of Boston’s leading gay book stores – Glad Day Bookshop — to quit selling p*******e literature, the Manager replied that “our policy is to sell everything that’s available to the [gay] community.”

The most popular gay fiction books on the market today are “rich with idyllic accounts of ‘intergenerational relationships,’” according to writer Philip Guichard in an Village Voice article. Doubleday published a book in 1998, The Gay Canon: Great Books Every Gay Man Should Read, which recommends numerous works that portray sex with boys in a positive manner. The Border bookstore chain sells A History of Gay Literature: The Male Tradition, which includes a chapter dev**ed to the history of pro-p*******e literature as an undisputable part of homosexual literature history.

The Gay Men’s Press publishes a bestsellers list on which appear Dares to Speak: History and Contemporary Perspectives on Boy-Love, Some Boys, and For a Lost Soldier; all books that can only be described as pro-p*******e. The authoritative Encyclopedia of Homosexuality states that, “the fact that until recently man/boy love relationships were accepted as a part, and indeed were a major part, of male homosexuality.” (24) The leading dictionary of the homosexual culture, The Queen’s Vernacular, lists 254 of its 12,000 words as having to do with sex with boys.
➡︎ There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

➡︎ Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molester, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19).

➡︎ 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

Church employees, including priests are often p*******es or pederasts Some recent statistics as to how bad the problem is within the church community. Note that many of the statistics are for allegations of child sexual abuse, not convictions. Unfortunately in many cases charges were dropped and often money changed hands.

- 4,392 priests/deacons were accused. Of these, 41 were permanent deacons.

-- Allegations were made against 4 percent of the 109,694 priests serving during the period.

-- Allegations were lodged on behalf of 10,667 people.

-- 75 percent of the abuse incidents occurred during 1960-84.

-- Total sex abuse related costs reported during the period were $573 million with $219 million covered by insurance.

-- 81 percent of the victims were males, and 19 percent were females.

-- 50.9 percent of the victims were 11-14 years old and 27.3 percent were 15-17 years old.

-- 56 percent of the accused had only one victim and 27 percent had two or three victims.

Note that the concentration of victims is male and young teenagers rather than five year olds. Often when molestation is discussed little children are involved, the young teens are seldom the group that comes to mind first, unless you work with this age group trying to help them get their lives back together. Within the groups mentioned in the first part of the thread, the push has been to lower the age of consent, some of the groups asking for the age of consent to be 12 others asking for there to be no lower limit. Again, the groups pushing for the lowering of the age of consent do not include most same sex attracted people. But the groups that make the most noise get the most attention. Squeaky wheel concept-you know.


While I have seen all these statements as well as the data that I am still trying to post in many places, having it all together does put it more in perspective. please keep in mind as you read this data and the comments that not all same sex attracted people are interested in sex with children, most are not. When you see a statistic that one in twenty homosexual adult males has had sex (molested) boys, that means 5% have, 95% haven't. So don't believe that all homosexuals want sex with kids, for you will be way off base if you do so.

It should be apparent, however, that the "we have our rights, and this is our orientation so it shouldn't be illegal" concept has gotten stronger recently as this group, using the same arguments that , along with disruption and threats at several annual meetings of the APA, forced the normative decision in 1972. has pushed their agenda forward. Think about it.

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I started this thread some time ago, but because of the amount of discussion on the subject lately thought the original post might be of some use.

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For years the claim has been that children raised by homosexual couples, or in families with three or more same sex "parents" do as well as children raised by heterosexual married couples. Several problems in the comparison studies were ignored to come to these "conclusions" One of course is that homosexual men do not stay pared for very long, and in that time there are frequent other in house sexual partners, lesbian couples were slightly more stable, most relationships lasting less than two years but more than one year.. In the data gathering group that screened fifteen thousand young adults for a Regnerus study discovered that out of the fifteen thousand only two were with the same couple from birth to age eighteen. Not one had been raised by a same sex male couple from birth to age eighteen.. "These young adults (brought up by same sex parents) are more likely to report having been sexually touched by a parent or caregiver, and that they have been forced to have sex against their will , than those brought up by intact biological families.Twenty three percent of young adults whose mothers had a same sex relationship had been touched sexually by a parent or adult care giver, compared to 2 percent whose parents were continuously married.Twenty five percent of those whose fathers had a same sex relationship had been forced against their will to have a sexual relationship with one or both of the same sex parents, as compared to 8 percent of those who lived in married heterosexual households. While 90 percent of those whose parents were continuously married reported they were entirely heterosexual, only 68 percent of young adults brought up in same sex households reported that they were entirely heterosexual

A Canadian census data study reported that children living with gay and lesbian families were only 65 % as likely to graduate high school as children living in opposite sex marriage families.
The American College of Pediatricians summarizes the risk to children from same sex parents as follows: Research has demonstrated considerable risks to children living in a same sex household. Violence between same sex partners is two to three times more common as that among married heterosexual couples. Homosexual men and women are reported to be promiscuous, with serial partners. Homosexual life stye couples are more likely to experience severe mental illness than heterosexual, including substance abuse suicidal tendencies and shortened lifespans.These figures are consistent even in countries where homosexual behavior is widely accepted.
Given the current evidence the American College of Pediatricians stated that it believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on same sex parenting, whether by adoption, foster care, or reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science. ( the quote came from the book Making Gay Okay, however the footnoted source is available in the printed version, not in my Kindle edition) The statement is supported by thirty six references to scientific studies. When presented with these and other studies Dr. Richard Isay, speaking at a memorial dinner for Franklin Kameny, the t*********r civil rights hero of the L**T community said "homophobia is a psychological a******lity. Those afflicted with it should be quarantined and denied employment

OK, now we know where we stand. Even though the damage to children from being raised in same sex households is very evident, the "Gay Right Agenda" has determined and demanded that they be allowed to adopt children, and they must be allow to have artificial insemination procedures just like infertile heterosexual couples, because it is their "right" And anyone who doesn't agree with them, or is h********c in any way should be quarantined and denied employment AND WE ARE DECLARED THE H**EFUL ONES AND THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY JUST WANTS TO GET ALONG. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT TO ME, HOW ABOUT YOU?

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he basis concept of moral relativism is that there is no right or wrong, If you think that something is right, no matter what other people think then it is right "for you". M**************m plays a part in moral relativism in that if a culture can be found to have ever done any activity, then we are not allowed to call the activity "wrong" It is therefore an alternate reality. Most liberals have this concept of beliefs and morality. This particularly hods true in matters of sexual behavior. therefore, if at one time a small tribe , which may not even exist today,believed that having sex with a five year old child then throwing the child onto a fire to appease their gods, we should not condemn anyone who practices that activity, for fear of being cultural "insensitive" If a number of people believe that forcing a seven year old girl to marry an adult man of the parents choosing, we should say "that is their culture, that is their right to do, even if they are now living in America" If intergenerational sex between men and boys is permitted somewhere in the world, it should not only be tolerated but celebrated in this country. On the other hand, even tough s***ery and r****m as a national policy are still practiced in many parts of the world, to the liberals even saying something mildly derogatory about a race, or having had distant relatives who were s***e owners two hundred years ago is a mortal sin. So is donating to a cause that the liberals don't believe in. Part of the concept of moral relativism is that there is no t***h, or lies, and that "knowledge is a collectively accepted system of beliefs regardless of whether the beliefs are true or the inferences rational." so, in sociologist studies, it the sociologist says it is true" (moral relativism-Lukes)
Most conservatives believe that there is such a thing as right and wrong / Because they believe that there is a power greater than themselves, God or a supreme power, they understand that Nature"s God has made male and female with a particular design and purpose in mind, and that willingly violating Nature's law has consequences. That includes sexual behavior in addition to the laws designed and given to people on how to treat and work together. People have an inherent moral sense that guides them toward the goals that a supreme Power wishes us to have. That moral sense must be nurtured through out life to function properly, The further people stray from the moral sense, the more unhappy, unfulfilled, and destructive their lives become . This does not give people the right to h**e people because they do bad or evil things, but, instead to h**e the bad or evil things, and to help the person become a better person, more able to resist the temptations. In my opinion, the true difference between the conservative and the liberal is "In God all things are possible" vrs "without God, all things are permissible."

Moral relativism regarding homosexual behavior, the rationalization and the thinking behind it have devastated the institutions of society and government, invading our schools and organizations such as the Boy Scouts. There is a difference between most homosexuals and the activists that must be kept in mind. Most homosexuals, like most heterosexuals do not let their sexuality define their entire being. The activists in the movement believe that their sexuality is the definition of their being, so that if you challenge the lie that homosexually is genetic, they feel very threatened . "The nature of the act is different from the person performing the act, and this distinction allows you to judge the act not the person. It is this distinction between the act and the person that removes any moral onus from a person whose homosexuality, or alcoholism or drug dependency is no fault of his own, which is why, against all evidence to the contrary, the homosexual activists demand that we believe that their homosexuality is genetic, and unchangeable. If, as is suggested by those who claim sexual restraint or even abstainance impossible, that they have no free will, then any idea of morality becomes absurd" MAKING GAY OKAY. At the end, only God can judge the condition of any person's soul In the mean time, perhaps we can come to a better understanding of the moral nature of an act, and realize that some acts are bad, and some are a great evil.

At this point in history however, the subject of homosexuality has become intertwined the rhetoric of "Rights" Rights, as the Declaration of Independence says are dependent on the laws of Nature and of Nature's God.".Any one who claims that what he is demanding is on the level of a right gets tremendous moral and political power for his cause For this reason activist homosexuals and their supporters attempt to identify themselves as the next civil rights movement". "MAKING GAY OKAY"
that the discussion of homosexuality and "rights" is now totally political is fully evident within the behavior of many politicians.

In 1985 in the Journal of Sex Education and therapy Dr. Lester Kirkendall, who is a professor of "Family Life" stated "sex education programs of the future will probe sexual expression across generational lines particularly as our sense of guilt about those things diminishes and this would also include incest"
Kevin Jennings who founded GLSEN is Obama's School Safety Czar ( more information can be found on him under the heading "Stanford not Really News, But Notre Dammed?"

Recently the President signed a bill that would have a stamp commemorating the life of Harvey Milk who was murdered in San Francisco, by someone who allegedly h**ed homosexuals, although some evidence has since surfaced that Milk may have molested a friend or relative of the murdered Milk was an admitted pederast ( he preferred young teenage boys who were runaways) Another celebrated California pederast is Henry Hay who was influential in the activist cause and is considered an icon, and a martyr for the cause.
Mathew Shepard is a martyr to the cause because he was murdered because, supposedly, he was homosexual. He is still a martyr despite the knowledge by the activists that he and the two men who murdered him were drug dealers and it was a drug deal gone bad. At least one of the two murderers had been a sexual partner of Shepard.
On June 29 2009, the President met with 250 homosexual leaders in the White House to commemorate the Stonewall Inn R**t when police and homosexuals clashed at a bar for homosexuals. The bar was well known to be a drug dealer's haven, and was owned by the New York Mafia. Obama singled out Franklin Kameny. Franklin Kameny had been arrested in 1957 for soliciting homosexual prostitutes in Lafayette Park across from the White House. At that time "perversions" were considered grounds for dismissal so Kameny lost his government job. He fought his dismissal on the grounds that "homosexuality is not only not immoral but is affirmatively moral. In 2008 Kameny expressed his views in a letter published in Americans For T***h. He wrote "let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better perversions by what ever definition by more and more consenting adults- If beastiality with consenting animals provides to some people let them pursue their happiness"

Does a thought come to mind JUST HOW DOES AN ANIMAL CONSENT
All of these people and events have the same goal in mind, not just to make gay OK , but to change the family structure in many damaging ways

This should give you an idea just how far we have come down the path of moral relativity. The next question should be "how can we get back to a moral and sane society or is it too late?


This was part of an earlier article and is on the same subject. I am putting them together because an discussion on a Chit Chat thread has gone in this direction. Chit chat is not meant for political subjects, so I cut a few pertinent posts and pasted them into one topic.
. Please keep in mind that discussion is great, accusations of H**E SPEECH or any such nonsense will not lead to a civil conversation, and should be avoided when possible. Thank you.