Joe [FU] Manchin and the secret flat tax assertion.
Dec 19, 2021 17:20:24 #
rebelwidacoz
Loc: Illinois
Fu ,evidently doesn't have a comprehension of the tax system -his contention is that he can't get abreast of BBB because of the extension of the child tax credit, he claims it will cost more money ,and that it should or should not be extended ,I don't know or can't seem to see what he is talking about .The child tax credit is nothing new ,it has always been an integral part and the foundation of the tax system ,it has always been commonly referred to as EARNED INCOME CREDIT. and child tax credit is a subordinate predicate of it, it is dependents and exemptions -Fu should be asked if he has ever filled out a ten forty form -or for that matter any other tax form that is formulated to accommodate the needs of a business - he seems to have no comprehension of itemizing , which is the way the wealthy use to minimize how much taxes they pay- this is the reason rich people are accused of not paying their fair share of taxes , they use the tool of itemizing , it is tedious and the average layman does not have the eruditeness to use it ; this is where companies such as H R Block and other entities [the professionals] come into the picture.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system
Dec 19, 2021 18:40:30 #
[quote=rebelwidacoz]Fu ,evidently doesn't have a comprehension of the tax system -his contention is that he can't get abreast of BBB because of the extension of the child tax credit, he claims it will cost more money ,and that it should or should not be extended ,I don't know or can't seem to see what he is talking about .The child tax credit is nothing new ,it has always been an integral part and the foundation of the tax system ,it has always been commonly referred to as EARNED INCOME CREDIT. and child tax credit is a subordinate predicate of it, it is dependents and exemptions -Fu should be asked if he has ever filled out a ten forty form -or for that matter any other tax form that is formulated to accommodate the needs of a business - he seems to have no comprehension of itemizing , which is the way the wealthy use to minimize how much taxes they pay- this is the reason rich people are accused of not paying their fair share of taxes , they use the tool of itemizing , it is tedious and the average layman does not have the eruditeness to use it ; this is where companies such as H R Block and other entities [the professionals] come into the picture.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
He's The Manchin On The Hill. He's currently the Savior Of America. Biddie Biden"s Build Back Bolshevik isn't fooling anybody. It's a massive tax hike, massive power grab by the Federal Government under kommiecrat kontrol, and a real inflation generator. While the other kommiecrats are busy trying to break down what they want to build back, one patriot stands with 50 republican Senators to keep America afloat while Biden"s Handlers pummel America any way they can while they still can.
Manchin is the hero of the country now. He ain't as cute as Sinema, but those two are saving us all from c*******m.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
He's The Manchin On The Hill. He's currently the Savior Of America. Biddie Biden"s Build Back Bolshevik isn't fooling anybody. It's a massive tax hike, massive power grab by the Federal Government under kommiecrat kontrol, and a real inflation generator. While the other kommiecrats are busy trying to break down what they want to build back, one patriot stands with 50 republican Senators to keep America afloat while Biden"s Handlers pummel America any way they can while they still can.
Manchin is the hero of the country now. He ain't as cute as Sinema, but those two are saving us all from c*******m.
Dec 19, 2021 19:49:08 #
[quote=rebelwidacoz]Fu ,evidently doesn't have a comprehension of the tax system -his contention is that he can't get abreast of BBB because of the extension of the child tax credit, he claims it will cost more money ,and that it should or should not be extended ,I don't know or can't seem to see what he is talking about .The child tax credit is nothing new ,it has always been an integral part and the foundation of the tax system ,it has always been commonly referred to as EARNED INCOME CREDIT. and child tax credit is a subordinate predicate of it, it is dependents and exemptions -Fu should be asked if he has ever filled out a ten forty form -or for that matter any other tax form that is formulated to accommodate the needs of a business - he seems to have no comprehension of itemizing , which is the way the wealthy use to minimize how much taxes they pay- this is the reason rich people are accused of not paying their fair share of taxes , they use the tool of itemizing , it is tedious and the average layman does not have the eruditeness to use it ; this is where companies such as H R Block and other entities [the professionals] come into the picture.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
You don't PAY taxes. You EARN from taxes. I'm damn tired of supporting the likes of yew.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
You don't PAY taxes. You EARN from taxes. I'm damn tired of supporting the likes of yew.
Dec 19, 2021 19:55:37 #
rebelwidacoz
Loc: Illinois
Mikeyavelli wrote:
He's The Manchin On The Hill. He's currently the S... (show quote)
You speak of Democratic , s******nism, -you speak of Democratic socialism and other Marxist Idealism but in general you are performing deeds and behaviors that smacks of stymieing concepts of a free society.The paranoids rants that Jews will not replace, you ,the 1*6 fiascal of simulation of a c**p,which is the ultimate form of treasonist then deflect.Democrats are the t*****rs, Democrats are the c*******t , Democrats are the socialist; you support and defend the rich whom are the minority,which in itself is anti Democratic,a democracy holds that the will of the people is arrived through an e*******l process,and the process says that the will of the people is a majority of 51% and shall be the dictate as to how the country shall be ran and governed, tricks of Gerrymandering ( not with standing) so as to thwart the element of majority rules,which also thwarts the idea of what democracy is.
- and Fu Manchu ,clever (as he probably thinks himself) or stupid,the result is the same thing,and that is casting aside 245 years of sacrifice for Democratic principles and values that you hypocritically claim to hold in high esteem,but evidently don't,what you do place such high value on is your rich, or aspired to be rich agendas I expect for hidden gruietys secret ly thrust upon by your rich benefactors
Dec 19, 2021 21:57:47 #
Dec 19, 2021 22:15:53 #
rebelwidacoz wrote:
You speak of Democratic , s******nism, -you speak ... (show quote)
No, I'm rich and I don't want to give you my money just because Biden says so.
Dec 20, 2021 01:01:17 #
rebelwidacoz wrote:
You speak of Democratic , s******nism, -you speak ... (show quote)
Please rewrite this post in some form of functional English. I would like to respond but have only a very vague idea of what you're trying to say.
Dec 20, 2021 02:31:06 #
RandyBrian
Loc: Texas
[quote=rebelwidacoz]Fu ,evidently doesn't have a comprehension of the tax system -his contention is that he can't get abreast of BBB because of the extension of the child tax credit, he claims it will cost more money ,and that it should or should not be extended ,I don't know or can't seem to see what he is talking about .The child tax credit is nothing new ,it has always been an integral part and the foundation of the tax system ,it has always been commonly referred to as EARNED INCOME CREDIT. and child tax credit is a subordinate predicate of it, it is dependents and exemptions -Fu should be asked if he has ever filled out a ten forty form -or for that matter any other tax form that is formulated to accommodate the needs of a business - he seems to have no comprehension of itemizing , which is the way the wealthy use to minimize how much taxes they pay- this is the reason rich people are accused of not paying their fair share of taxes , they use the tool of itemizing , it is tedious and the average layman does not have the eruditeness to use it ; this is where companies such as H R Block and other entities [the professionals] come into the picture.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
Reb, if you don't mind sharing, how old are you? Because, no offense intended, you are coming across as either a very young person.....I'd guess about 17, or an older person who never made it past the 8th grade. This is based on the maturity level of your posts and the obvious fact that you are trying (and failing) to express ideas and thoughts about subjects with almost zero knowledge about them.
You are coming across as the written equivalent of a kid outraged because life isn't treating him fair. I assume that is not your intention, so please let us know a little about yourself. Maybe one of us can offer some help.
The determining factor so as to whether it will cost more money or will not cost more [Manchin and the republicans seem to think ole' Robinette is trying to pull the wool over their eyes] as I was saying ,the determining factor as to how much it would cost is determined by how many children the tax payer has ,and how many items can be considered exempt from a specified amount each taxpayer must pay according to how much income the taxpayer makes -this explains the idea of being cast into a higher income tax bracket -perhaps you got a raise.
What is his general contention, does he want to disallow the amount of money each taxpayer is allowed for each exemption or dependent [this includes children] if so he his bucking for a flat tax scenario whether he understands it or not, what he was suggestive of -" take the exemption ,child tax credit out of the bill ,is phenomenally hard hearted as hell, ;in other words get rid of allowances for your children [even though you have to pay to feed, house and clothe them along with other sustenance expenditures, such as energy bills, old disable love ones that you might be providing for and try paying for it on your own without benefit of subsidy ; think what this would be like ,it would be like the doctor wrote a prescription for symbycor ,symbycor cost 300 hundred dollars and you don't have the luxury of co pay, you have to pay the full 300 as oppose to 7.95- is he stupid or an ignoramus.I don't believe him.I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and will assume he just does not understand or he is single handley trying to re structure the whole tax system by asserting a flat tax system[/quote]
Reb, if you don't mind sharing, how old are you? Because, no offense intended, you are coming across as either a very young person.....I'd guess about 17, or an older person who never made it past the 8th grade. This is based on the maturity level of your posts and the obvious fact that you are trying (and failing) to express ideas and thoughts about subjects with almost zero knowledge about them.
You are coming across as the written equivalent of a kid outraged because life isn't treating him fair. I assume that is not your intention, so please let us know a little about yourself. Maybe one of us can offer some help.
Dec 20, 2021 08:34:55 #
RandyBrian wrote:
Reb, if you don't mind sharing, how old are you? ... (show quote)
Nah, he'd be seeking government help. The good help. Bureaucracy help. He'd get himself on a program that would allow him to live meagerly while sitting on a broken couch spewing Marxism on OPP.
Dec 20, 2021 10:02:16 #
RandyBrian
Loc: Texas
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Nah, he'd be seeking government help. The good help. Bureaucracy help. He'd get himself on a program that would allow him to live meagerly while sitting on a broken couch spewing Marxism on OPP.
I hope you are wrong, but I certainly see the evidence that you are not. Let's see what he replies.
Dec 20, 2021 11:03:51 #
RandyBrian wrote:
I hope you are wrong, but I certainly see the evidence that you are not. Let's see what he replies.
Or, he shorted out his keyboard looking at porn and can't reply at all.
Dec 20, 2021 11:13:25 #
RandyBrian
Loc: Texas
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Or, he shorted out his keyboard looking at porn and can't reply at all.
LOL
Dec 20, 2021 14:56:06 #
Dec 20, 2021 18:07:15 #
rebelwidacoz
Loc: Illinois
JW wrote:
Please rewrite this post in some form of functional English. I would like to respond but have only a very vague idea of what you're trying to say.
Ok , bubba,heah ah go ,in Bubba language that you's wil' un-nuh stand...... I don't feel like it at this moment - maybe another time.
Dec 20, 2021 18:09:15 #
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