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Psychologists say, that America is going through what Carl Jung warned us would eventually happen— a mass delusion
Dec 15, 2021 11:16:23   #
moldyoldy
 
In 2020, 34 percent of Republicans and independents who lean to the right surveyed by Pew Research Center agreed that it was "probably" or "definitely true" that powerful people intentionally planned the C****-** outbreak. Eighteen percent of Democrats and left-leaners agreed, too. That same year, results from a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that approximately three-quarters of Republicans did not trust the 2020 p**********l e******n results.

It should go without saying that these kinds of beliefs are fantasy, not rooted in any rational fact or evidence. Hence, someone observing from afar the rise in conspiratorial beliefs and p***********e might characterize a vast swath of the American public as delusional. From the C***D-t***her movement to people believing the 2020 p**********l e******n was r****d, it appears that the body politic is — to put it mildly — no longer on the same page.


Given the perturbed psychological state of so many Americans, it is worth asking if something is happening — psychologically speaking — that is causing many Americans to live in very different realities.

Psychologists say yes; and, moreover, that what is happening was actually predicted long ago by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung. Indeed, Jung once wrote that the demise of society wouldn't be a physical threat, but instead mass delusion — a collective psychosis of sorts.





"Carl Jung noted that 'the wolf inside' man was far more a threat to human existence than external forces," Dr. Carla Marie Manly, a clinical psychologist and author of "Joy From Fear," told Salon. "When mental forces become so toxic as to harm our overall well-being on an individual and collective level a 'psychic epidemic' can result."

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Indeed, Jung himself warned that modern society was prone to collapse due to a p******c of "delusional ideas."



"Greater than all physical dangers are the tremendous effects of delusional ideas, which are yet denied all reality by our world-blinded consciousness," Jung wrote. "Our much vaunted reason and our boundlessly overestimated will are sometimes utterly powerless in the face of 'unreal' thoughts."

Notably, Jung believed that the United States was particularly prone to society-breaking delusions.


"Anything new should always be questioned and tested with caution, for it may very easily turn out to be only a new disease; that is why true progress is impossible without mature judgment," Jung wrote. "The man who is unconscious of the historical context and lets slip his link with the past is in constant danger of succumbing to the crazes and delusions eng****red by all novelties."

Some psychologists believe that this is what the country is experiencing right now — more or less.

"Something's definitely happening, and I think C***D amplified it to a painful point, you could say," Katharine Bainbridge, a Jungian analyst, tells Salon.


But there are caveats. "It's complicated," Bainbridge said. "From the left's point of view, people that aren't being v******ted or think the e******n was r****d are psychotic, right? If you're on the right, you think the left is psychotic and has lost its mind in identity politics. Both sides look at each other and say, 'you've lost your mind.'"

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the concept of a "mass psychosis" has been seized upon by conspiracy theorists as a rationale for their conspiracies. For instance, anti-v******tion influencers like Joseph Mercola employ the term to suggest that those who are getting v******ted are the real "delusional" ones.

Bainbridge said in order to contextualize what's actually happening in America through a Jungian lens, one must consider the role of a central guiding myth.


"Jung said man cannot live without religion — so you make it up," Bainbridge said. "You can't not have a central myth to live by. He would say maybe in this time that we've lost that — we don't have a collective unifying principle."

Cultural theorists often describe the history of human civilization as one of a t***sition between different central guiding myths. In the Western world, Christianity undergirded everyday existence and society for over a thousand years. After the Renaissance, the central guiding myth became a belief in rationalism; then, in modernity, a belief that technology might improve the lot of all humans.

Though the phrase is often reviled, the postmodern era — which, roughly, began in the 1960s or 1970s depending on who you ask — merely means the cultural t***sition into an epoch into which there were no longer any fundamental guiding myths that unified human societies and drove progress. Such an era is, by its nature, more fractured socially; two humans plucked at random from a postmodern epoch might find themselves believing wildly different things about human society, progress and morality, with little in common.


Jung believed, Bainbridge explained, that people needed myths to live by — hence the importance of religion. Yet interestingly, there has been an ever-increasing number of Americans leaving organized religion. In return, many people — perhaps those who were never religious in the first place — have turned to New Age spiritual beliefs, which in some circles have curiously syncretized with the tenets of the far-right conspiracy theory Q***n.

Bainbridge noted the contrast between New Age circles and Q***n in Jungian terms.

"One is super dark and apocalyptic and the other is utopian," Bainbridge said. "The problem with New Age thinking that is it leaves out the shadow — and then Q***n is obsessed with the shadow."


"Unfortunately, many people were gravitating toward conspiracy theories prior to the p******c," Manly observed, "yet this trend has intensified during the p******c due to surges in online time, anxiety, and feelings of helpless."

Manly connected this to Jung's "wolf within" idea. "Individuals and groups who perpetuate conspiracy theories are often intentionally 'feeding the wolf inside' masses of people — often with substantial negative mental health effects."

But why is this happening now? As Bainbridge noted, the c****av***s p******c appears to have amplified existing rifts. Joe Kelly, a cult intervention specialist, also told Salon that humans are often drawn to extremism when they are suffering.


"If an individual is hurting — financially, on any level, losing a job, having trouble with their mortgage, having trouble feeding themselves — then they're more likely to listen to extremist ideologies and talk about a conspiracy around them that is beyond their control," Kelly said.

Social psychologists like Jung often see the government as a stand-in for authority figures like parents. Indeed, Bainbridge said, one might analogize the draw to conspiracy theories and New Age religions as children acting out when their "parents" (meaning, the state) are not taking care of them properly.

"If the parent isn't taking care of a child, then the child acts out, right? The child is angry because it's not getting its needs met," Bainbridge said. "And there are lots of people, like left-progressives, who asked: 'How did Trump get elected?' But once you really look into it, you're like, that was obvious because there's a huge part of America that's in between New York and LA, and those people are fed up and they feel forgotten."


Bainbridge says the way out of this conundrum, from a Jungian perspective, is to embrace humanism and empathy.

"We have to find our humanity, and [ask], 'what does it mean to be a human being?'" Bainbridge said. "It means that you have to integrate your own darkness, wrestle with your own paradoxes and stop projecting out onto other people the opposite inside of you."

Bainbridge added: "There are no simple answers. But we have to hold on to our own humanity, instead of projecting out and demonizing other people. That's how we survive."
https://www.rawstory.com/carl-jung-psychosis/

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Dec 15, 2021 11:47:50   #
Liberty Tree
 
moldyoldy wrote:
In 2020, 34 percent of Republicans and independents who lean to the right surveyed by Pew Research Center agreed that it was "probably" or "definitely true" that powerful people intentionally planned the C****-** outbreak. Eighteen percent of Democrats and left-leaners agreed, too. That same year, results from a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that approximately three-quarters of Republicans did not trust the 2020 p**********l e******n results.

It should go without saying that these kinds of beliefs are fantasy, not rooted in any rational fact or evidence. Hence, someone observing from afar the rise in conspiratorial beliefs and p***********e might characterize a vast swath of the American public as delusional. From the C***D-t***her movement to people believing the 2020 p**********l e******n was r****d, it appears that the body politic is — to put it mildly — no longer on the same page.


Given the perturbed psychological state of so many Americans, it is worth asking if something is happening — psychologically speaking — that is causing many Americans to live in very different realities.

Psychologists say yes; and, moreover, that what is happening was actually predicted long ago by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung. Indeed, Jung once wrote that the demise of society wouldn't be a physical threat, but instead mass delusion — a collective psychosis of sorts.





"Carl Jung noted that 'the wolf inside' man was far more a threat to human existence than external forces," Dr. Carla Marie Manly, a clinical psychologist and author of "Joy From Fear," told Salon. "When mental forces become so toxic as to harm our overall well-being on an individual and collective level a 'psychic epidemic' can result."

Join Raw Story Investigates. Go AD-Free.
Indeed, Jung himself warned that modern society was prone to collapse due to a p******c of "delusional ideas."



"Greater than all physical dangers are the tremendous effects of delusional ideas, which are yet denied all reality by our world-blinded consciousness," Jung wrote. "Our much vaunted reason and our boundlessly overestimated will are sometimes utterly powerless in the face of 'unreal' thoughts."

Notably, Jung believed that the United States was particularly prone to society-breaking delusions.


"Anything new should always be questioned and tested with caution, for it may very easily turn out to be only a new disease; that is why true progress is impossible without mature judgment," Jung wrote. "The man who is unconscious of the historical context and lets slip his link with the past is in constant danger of succumbing to the crazes and delusions eng****red by all novelties."

Some psychologists believe that this is what the country is experiencing right now — more or less.

"Something's definitely happening, and I think C***D amplified it to a painful point, you could say," Katharine Bainbridge, a Jungian analyst, tells Salon.


But there are caveats. "It's complicated," Bainbridge said. "From the left's point of view, people that aren't being v******ted or think the e******n was r****d are psychotic, right? If you're on the right, you think the left is psychotic and has lost its mind in identity politics. Both sides look at each other and say, 'you've lost your mind.'"

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the concept of a "mass psychosis" has been seized upon by conspiracy theorists as a rationale for their conspiracies. For instance, anti-v******tion influencers like Joseph Mercola employ the term to suggest that those who are getting v******ted are the real "delusional" ones.

Bainbridge said in order to contextualize what's actually happening in America through a Jungian lens, one must consider the role of a central guiding myth.


"Jung said man cannot live without religion — so you make it up," Bainbridge said. "You can't not have a central myth to live by. He would say maybe in this time that we've lost that — we don't have a collective unifying principle."

Cultural theorists often describe the history of human civilization as one of a t***sition between different central guiding myths. In the Western world, Christianity undergirded everyday existence and society for over a thousand years. After the Renaissance, the central guiding myth became a belief in rationalism; then, in modernity, a belief that technology might improve the lot of all humans.

Though the phrase is often reviled, the postmodern era — which, roughly, began in the 1960s or 1970s depending on who you ask — merely means the cultural t***sition into an epoch into which there were no longer any fundamental guiding myths that unified human societies and drove progress. Such an era is, by its nature, more fractured socially; two humans plucked at random from a postmodern epoch might find themselves believing wildly different things about human society, progress and morality, with little in common.


Jung believed, Bainbridge explained, that people needed myths to live by — hence the importance of religion. Yet interestingly, there has been an ever-increasing number of Americans leaving organized religion. In return, many people — perhaps those who were never religious in the first place — have turned to New Age spiritual beliefs, which in some circles have curiously syncretized with the tenets of the far-right conspiracy theory Q***n.

Bainbridge noted the contrast between New Age circles and Q***n in Jungian terms.

"One is super dark and apocalyptic and the other is utopian," Bainbridge said. "The problem with New Age thinking that is it leaves out the shadow — and then Q***n is obsessed with the shadow."


"Unfortunately, many people were gravitating toward conspiracy theories prior to the p******c," Manly observed, "yet this trend has intensified during the p******c due to surges in online time, anxiety, and feelings of helpless."

Manly connected this to Jung's "wolf within" idea. "Individuals and groups who perpetuate conspiracy theories are often intentionally 'feeding the wolf inside' masses of people — often with substantial negative mental health effects."

But why is this happening now? As Bainbridge noted, the c****av***s p******c appears to have amplified existing rifts. Joe Kelly, a cult intervention specialist, also told Salon that humans are often drawn to extremism when they are suffering.


"If an individual is hurting — financially, on any level, losing a job, having trouble with their mortgage, having trouble feeding themselves — then they're more likely to listen to extremist ideologies and talk about a conspiracy around them that is beyond their control," Kelly said.

Social psychologists like Jung often see the government as a stand-in for authority figures like parents. Indeed, Bainbridge said, one might analogize the draw to conspiracy theories and New Age religions as children acting out when their "parents" (meaning, the state) are not taking care of them properly.

"If the parent isn't taking care of a child, then the child acts out, right? The child is angry because it's not getting its needs met," Bainbridge said. "And there are lots of people, like left-progressives, who asked: 'How did Trump get elected?' But once you really look into it, you're like, that was obvious because there's a huge part of America that's in between New York and LA, and those people are fed up and they feel forgotten."


Bainbridge says the way out of this conundrum, from a Jungian perspective, is to embrace humanism and empathy.

"We have to find our humanity, and [ask], 'what does it mean to be a human being?'" Bainbridge said. "It means that you have to integrate your own darkness, wrestle with your own paradoxes and stop projecting out onto other people the opposite inside of you."

Bainbridge added: "There are no simple answers. But we have to hold on to our own humanity, instead of projecting out and demonizing other people. That's how we survive."
https://www.rawstory.com/carl-jung-psychosis/
In 2020, 34 percent of Republicans and independent... (show quote)


Jung did a lot of work on the unconscious mind. You would make a great experiment since most of your thoughts come from that state.

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Dec 15, 2021 11:53:31   #
moldyoldy
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Jung did a lot of work on the unconscious mind. You would make a great experiment since most of your thoughts come from that state.


Is that your Q nut opinion.

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Dec 15, 2021 11:59:06   #
Liberty Tree
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Is that your Q nut opinion.


Just an analytical observation based on your comments.

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Dec 15, 2021 15:20:23   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Jung did a lot of work on the unconscious mind. You would make a great experiment since most of your thoughts come from that state.


Why is it you seem to have no ability to intelligently respond to a topic...did you catch the part where the side that's right has to show compassion for the ones that are sickened with delusions? You make it obvious which side you are on

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Dec 15, 2021 15:24:17   #
moldyoldy
 
Barbancon wrote:
Why did Dr. F***i and the NIH lie about funding g**n of f******n research at the W***n Lab? F***i even lied about it to Congress, but his emails exposed him as a liar and the NIH has to admit they were lying and admit they did fund this research. Why is the left always behind every evil and always trying to cover their tracks to deceive the American people? Why did the c*******t Chinese cover up the outbreak for 2 months when they normally report outbreaks immediately? Why did the democrats do their best to keep international flights from China to the US open despite knowledge of the v***s? Why did Governor Cuimo and many other democrat governors put infected c***d patients into nursing homes to spread the disease? Why did the democrat media deliberately hide the cheap and safe treatments for c***d and push ineffective experimental drugs instead that still allow the disease to spread.

Because you are lying, murderous, completely evil motherfuckers and always have been.
Why did Dr. F***i and the NIH lie about funding g*... (show quote)



Drink your bleach and dewormer.

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Dec 15, 2021 17:55:27   #
moldyoldy
 
Another example of crazy.

A former police captain with the Houston Police Department was indicted on Tuesday for allegedly holding an innocent AC repairman at gunpoint over a baseless v***r f***d claim that Hispanic children were signing b****ts. Mark Anthony Aguirre, 64, faces a count of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, records show.

“According to Aguirre, he had been conducting surveillance on the victim for four days under a theory the victim was the mastermind of a giant fraud, and there were 750,000 fraudulent b****ts in a truck he was driving,” the Office of the Harris County District Attorney said. “Instead, the victim turned out to be an innocent and ordinary air conditioner repairman.”

Aguirre rammed his SUV into the back of the victim’s truck to force him to stop in the Oct. 19, 2020 incident, prosecutors said. The repairman stepped out, but Aguirre pointed a gun at him, forced him to the ground, and put a knee on the man’s back, authorities said.

There were no b****ts in the truck — only air conditioning parts and tools, the D.A.’s office said.

Aguirre got $266,400 from the right-wing group Liberty Center for God and Country to do his work, authorities said.

“He crossed the line from dirty politics to commission of a violent crime and we are lucky no one was k**led,” Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg (D) said. “His alleged investigation was backward from the start – first alleging a crime had occurred and then trying to prove it happened.”

The repairman David Lopez-Zuniga sued right-wing activist Dr. Steven Hotze in March, blaming him for funding and directing Aguirre’s actions.

“Dr. Hotze financed a project to investigate allegations of v***r f***d,” Hotze attorney Jared Woodfill told KTRK. “What an independent contractor chooses to do is not Dr. Hotze’s responsibility any more than if you or I were to hire an investigator or a contractor to do something for us and while doing it, they did something inappropriate.”

Aguirre was fired from the Houston Police Department in 2003 for his role in a street-racing raid where 278 people were arrested.

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Dec 16, 2021 03:44:47   #
Jlw Loc: Wisconsin
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Jung did a lot of work on the unconscious mind. You would make a great experiment since most of your thoughts come from that state.


You must mean dead mind

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