Oklahoma senator: Tornado aid totally different from Sandy aid
May 22, 2013 03:34:36 #
May 22, 2013 08:07:31 #
mmccarty12
Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
Proof positive Republicans are just as corrupt and hypocritical as Democrats.
May 22, 2013 09:08:27 #
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/21/oklahoma_senator_tornado_aid_totally_different_from_sandy_aid/
Thank you for the thoughtful researched article. :thumbup:
May 22, 2013 09:56:43 #
mmccarty12 wrote:
Proof positive Republicans are just as corrupt and hypocritical as Democrats.
Hi there
Really???? How in the mind of any thinking person does the statement of facts become corrupt and hypocritical???
May 22, 2013 11:35:13 #
ILBD1012 wrote:
Hi there
Really???? How in the mind of any thinking person does the statement of facts become corrupt and hypocritical???
Really???? How in the mind of any thinking person does the statement of facts become corrupt and hypocritical???
Agreed that clean bills are necessary to remove all unrelated items (pork) if our country is to move forward.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
May 22, 2013 11:40:28 #
grazeem
Loc: Arizona
Historian wrote:
Agreed that clean bills are necessary to remove all unrelated items (pork) if our country is to move forward.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
Well said
May 22, 2013 11:49:55 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
mmccarty12 wrote:
Proof positive Republicans are just as corrupt and hypocritical as Democrats.
I don't see your point in this one. I think that Inhofe did say something about all the pork in Sandy legislation that had nothing at all to do with the hurricane. He is asking for help for Moore pertaining to the tornado, only. Hypocritical, you say? Was he talking about paying for all the damage done by that one storm or the major areas.
I got a real kick out of the inclusion of the words from the Senator who the left is most against but sure didn't see any real hypocrisy or corruption in the words of either. I think that what I am seeing here is rapid politicization of anything to do with this storm just as was done with Sandy.
May 22, 2013 11:52:33 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
ILBD1012 wrote:
Hi there
Really???? How in the mind of any thinking person does the statement of facts become corrupt and hypocritical???
Really???? How in the mind of any thinking person does the statement of facts become corrupt and hypocritical???
If I had said your words I would be thinking that I was accusing the people of the left as being corrupt and hypocritical, but I don't want to accuse you or that. Surely most leaners will miss the fact that both Oklahoma Senators say they v**ed against Sandy because of all the pork in the final edition of it. Of course, leaners never see words like that. They have politicized this terrible storm, already.
May 22, 2013 11:53:59 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Historian wrote:
Agreed that clean bills are necessary to remove all unrelated items (pork) if our country is to move forward.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
Maybe the Democrats will find a way to take a little more from defense or Medicare to pay for this one since that is where most of the sequester money has been coming from.
May 22, 2013 13:05:28 #
Historian wrote:
Agreed that clean bills are necessary to remove all unrelated items (pork) if our country is to move forward.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
Well hi there Historian
I think I have a fantastic way to offset some of those costs. One of the first things I would do is QUIT giving hundreds of millions and billions of dollars (not to mention planes and tanks and all the other stuff) to countries that h**e us and just let them h**e us for free. The fact of the matter is there is only one nation in that area that we need to be concerned about and that is Isreal. I believe our support for Isreal is the only reason that the USA has not faced the full wrath of GOD for our blatently sinful ways. As history well shows, every nation that has turned it's back on Isreal has payed a horrendous price. I fear the USA is headed in that direction and will also suffer that same fate. Isreal is the apple of God's eye and to mess with Isreal is to mess with God himself.
May 22, 2013 13:21:18 #
oldroy wrote:
Maybe the Democrats will find a way to take a little more from defense or Medicare to pay for this one since that is where most of the sequester money has been coming from.
Seems to me, the first targets always relate to taking from the elderly, who live on fixed incomes. Chained CPI already is on the table, which would ultimately lower SS benefits needed to pay premiums for Medicare, supplemental insurance, and prescription drugs.
Agreed, we could cut the pork out of defense (such as contracts awarded without competitive bids), on strict audits to weed out waste and fraud.
In my opinion, a Medicare expense that could be substantially trimmed are prescription costs; why does such a huge program have the purchasing power to pay retail as opposed to the wholesale prices paid by the VA, (costs are reduced by 40%) as well as the lower prices enjoyed by other countries. I find this grossly unfair; particularly, when U.S. taxpayers subsidize R&D for said drugs.
These to me are the obvious areas where cuts are possible, and relatively painless. No doubt there are many others. It's important for both parties to come together to come up with more ideas. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened.
May 22, 2013 13:38:57 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Historian wrote:
Seems to me, the first targets always relate to ta... (show quote)
How much experience do you have with Medicare and VA? I stopped using VA when I needed meds they wouldn't supply. I did plug up over 65% on three years of their standard cholesterol preventive and when I finally went to Medicare Plan D found the penalty for not taking it out for three years pretty high. I will get to pay that one till I die or they do away with Medicare Part D. My payment for that goody is not $42 per month and since all the companies dropped the good med I had been taking for over 7 years I now get to pay more than $55 per month more for the pill they wanted me to take. Yep, I have had to suffer a bit already and the tornado hadn't taken place yet. This fixed income thing isn't so hot but at least we do have retirement programs much better than SS at our house.
I don't think the parties will come together very soon on the spending of money.
May 22, 2013 14:06:07 #
May 22, 2013 14:59:21 #
Historian wrote:
Agreed that clean bills are necessary to remove all unrelated items (pork) if our country is to move forward.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
That said, Coburn also demands that funds targeted toward disaster relief need to be offset by other budget cuts. With so many program funding cuts under the sequester already in place, I believe Coburn has to identify the specific cuts he requires if he wants public support.
I know why your about done here! Because you cant find any facts to discredit this:
Just how many of these called out for help that could have helped had the call not been ignored, denied then lied about?
Must be because none exist Eh? Now you keep rambling on about facts! How about some?
Don't Let A Corrupt Media And A
Criminal muslim lead Government Brainwash you!
Think For Yourself America! While You Still Can!
May 22, 2013 20:05:12 #
ILBD1012 wrote:
Well hi there Historian br br I think ... (show quote)
Let them h**e us for free? Thanks for the laugh albeit I agree there's t***h in what you say about arming those who have then turned against us. As for the rest, I can't claim I have inside knowledge of God's wrath; as with so many people, I just do my best to follow Christ's teachings.
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