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Dec 4, 2021 23:08:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
Re: "Chinese vax": I've heard there's a lot of difference in the effectiveness of the different kinds of v*****es.


Yes... The Chinese version doesn't use the m**A technology...It's less effective...

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Dec 5, 2021 07:07:36   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I've taken that course... As do all of my students... It's a lecture course and the majority of students play on their phone, sleep, or do homework for other classes...

It's unfortunate really...There are some interesting ideas presented... But the vast majority of young Chinese just don't care...

How can political ideology compete with Tiktok
I've taken that course... As do all of my students... (show quote)


Political ideology been thinking about that after reading this and wanted to ask if any validity to it from your perspective..??..

In the last week, under heavy pressure from the Chinese authorities, Didi Chuxing, the ride hailing company announced it would renege its NYSE market listing and instead list in China/Hong Kong. Also, this week the Women’s Tennis Association (WTA) have suspended their tennis tournaments in China in response to the disappearance of the player Peng Shuai.

She had been ‘recalled’ to China having accused accused Zhang Gaoli formerly a high-ranking Chinese C*******t party official, of sexual assault, and she is since believed to been held under duress. While the Epstein trial shows that powerful men can behave appallingly wherever they are, the treatment of Peng is sinister, tone deaf to international public opinion and, has been repeated in the cases of other public figures.

As background I have just started reading the fascinating ‘Red Roulette’, Desmond Shum’s account of what happens to wealthy Chinese who rise too high too quickly (to spoil the surprise Shum details the murder, ‘suicides’ and disappearance of numerous Chinese billionaires).

Closed Off

Couple this with China’s antagonizing of nearly all of its neighbours (some of whom also threaten it), other snippets such as a collapse in passport issuance by the Chinese government (notwithstanding C***D), the exigencies of China’s C***D policy and a growing range of moves to establish self-sustainability and in some cases international monopoly in areas like data (LinkedIn has been cut off in China) and rare earths, and the picture grows of a China that is reinforcing its strategic autonomy, but also cutting itself off from the rest of the world and to adopt Ó’Faoláin’s terminology, enveloping itself in a ‘Red Curtain’.

This ‘Red Curtain’ process, if my view is correct, will be gradual but nonetheless meaningful. David Sk*****g points out that trade ties between the EU and China are still strong, and that American banks are keen to further implicate themselves in the Chinese financial system (Jamie Dimon of JPM is notable here, though less so for his diplomacy). However, Germany’s new government is markedly less China friendly than the Merkel one, and various EU level oversight processes will curb foreign (Chinese) investment into Europe.

In the big picture, the ‘Red Curtain’ is consistent with other countries or leaders (Brexit/Johnson, Trump, Bolsonaro) turning away from internationalism, and confirms the trend towards multipolarity.


Red Curtain

China’s size, the late stage of its very long business cycle (with a slowing property market) mean that the prospects of a ‘Red Curtain’ need to be taken seriously.

Diplomatically, it raises the problem that a more closed off China is harder to read from outside, and somewhat harder to deal with (ask Lithuania). Domestically, there is a risk that this more ‘closed’ approach creates a sense of risk aversion across entrepreneurs, a lack of debate about policy issues (especially at a local level) and as a result of this, a policy mistake. One structural policy error might be that productivity slows.

From an investors point of view what is interesting is that the heavy-handed approach of Chinese regulators and politicians has turned Chinese equities (especially those listed abroad like Alibaba) into ‘value’ investments. In contrast if US companies that export to China (think of Apple AAPL and Tesla TSLA) were to be cut off by the ‘Red Curtain’, their valuations would crater. As an aside, I wonder if the ‘Red Curtain’ will split the MetaVerse in the sense that it offers a distinctly different experience to those that use Chinese technology, to those using Western technologies and platforms.

Notably on the other side, more fund managers have mentioned to me that the Chinese government bond market begins to look attractive compared to those in the West. In that context, Chinese assets – having for long being regarded as a structural emerging market growth play – are becoming interesting for value investors. <snip>

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0dEEX08a?pd=08VmvHiP&lang=en_US&s=i4

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Dec 5, 2021 07:15:16   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We face time regularly, but the time difference pretty much guarantees one party is under a constraint...

The v******tion is optional over here..The courts have ruled on it...But there's a lot of social pressure... Recently my daughter came home and told us that she needs the v*****e...Her teachers were instructed to tell students to ask their parents for it... I was not impressed... Didn't take it out on the school (friends with the headmaster and the staff) but I did make it clear that we would not be getting it for her...

Same at work... I originally got the Chinese vax... Refused the first time along with most of the staff at the university...The second time we had a v**e and decided that if it was better to guarantee our safety as we had students from all over the nation attending our classes... Same with the students... But the booster is being handled differently and I've just taken a pass on it...

I follow all the rules out of simple respect...Wore mask when we went shopping earlier..Same with my wife and daughter... I get the theories behind the policies... Same with scanning in when we enter a premises..

I am upset that Canada and other western nations aren't recognizing the Chinese vax... I've had friends return and discover that they are considered unv****d... Ridiculous...
We face time regularly, but the time difference pr... (show quote)


I remember reading about your countries decision on v******tion being optional and not mandatory. Candidly I was a bit surprised by it but also thankful.

I think the school trying to force your daughter to be v******ted is appalling but being done in this country as well. I was not v******ted and have thus far not contracted it so the booster shot isn’t even a consideration…

I’m glad you made it clear to them that you will not have your daughter v******ted and they should mind their own business!

I follow the rules as well wearing mask when in public.. I look at it as a necessity for everyone. Social distancing has never been a problem because I simply don’t care for people being in my face so to speak as it is. Washing hands frequently keeping a clean home all the necessary things such as that a given…

As far as the Chinese v******tion why is it considered not being v******ted?? How ridiculous yet again just an excuse used for people into the jab yet again…

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Dec 5, 2021 07:49:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TexaCan wrote:
Linda, our country has some serious problems and most of us see these problems…..most of US! But! We must all remember that it is OUR country and it’s worth standing up and fighting for!

Christmas will be quiet for us, but that’s OK! All of of kids and their kids and their kids are all doing well and we made some wonderful memories with all of them this summer. We lost all of our Christmas decorations at some point when our furniture was in storage for a year. How…is a mystery! 🤷🏻‍♀️😳 We decided not to attempt to replace them while we are here in Alabama. Your decorations are beautiful…..I can just imagine the rest of your house!

But, this is what greeted us this morning……This is my decorations! I believe it may be the most spectacular sunrise I’ve ever seen……and I’ve seen many a sunrise! LOL! The picture doesn’t do it Justice! That is just a snippet of the clouds, there was much more! The sky looked like it was on fire! The screened-in-room where I took the picture from looked as though it was lit up! It was truly amazing! God’s glory at it’s finest!

I’ve enjoyed your friendship for several years now and you know how much I respect you! It wouldn’t be the same without you…..and we’ve had a little fun along the way! 🥰😂. I’m glad you’re in my life too!
Linda, our country has some serious problems and m... (show quote)


First, your sunrise is breath taking and simply stunning!!! The good Lord smiling down on you!!! Wow, talk about affirmation!!!!

It’s always nice when the kids come and you had a wonderful time with them on top of it. Probably more like an early Christmas present.

I am so very sorry to read about your Christmas decorations missing. Very strange it is and understand why you don’t want to replace while still in Alabama. Wait till you get “home” and then have a Christmas shopping spree!!! Christmas is in our hearts and the celebration of Jesus birthday and that’s really all that needs to be remembered and glorified. Knowing you I know that goes without saying. You are a special lady and I so very much appreciate you and wish you the very best and all that may be.❤️🙏🌟🌟

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Dec 5, 2021 07:51:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes... The Chinese version doesn't use the m**A technology...It's less effective...


Ok, now I see why the difference… Should’ve read a little more before I wrote you.

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Dec 5, 2021 08:19:20   #
DASHY
 
lindajoy wrote:
Political ideology been thinking about that after reading this and wanted to ask if any validity to it from your perspective..??..

In the last week, under heavy pressure from the Chinese authorities, Didi Chuxing, the ride hailing company announced it would renege its NYSE market listing and instead list in China/Hong Kong. Also, this week the Women’s Tennis Association (WTA) have suspended their tennis tournaments in China in response to the disappearance of the player Peng Shuai.

She had been ‘recalled’ to China having accused accused Zhang Gaoli formerly a high-ranking Chinese C*******t party official, of sexual assault, and she is since believed to been held under duress. While the Epstein trial shows that powerful men can behave appallingly wherever they are, the treatment of Peng is sinister, tone deaf to international public opinion and, has been repeated in the cases of other public figures.

As background I have just started reading the fascinating ‘Red Roulette’, Desmond Shum’s account of what happens to wealthy Chinese who rise too high too quickly (to spoil the surprise Shum details the murder, ‘suicides’ and disappearance of numerous Chinese billionaires).

Closed Off

Couple this with China’s antagonizing of nearly all of its neighbours (some of whom also threaten it), other snippets such as a collapse in passport issuance by the Chinese government (notwithstanding C***D), the exigencies of China’s C***D policy and a growing range of moves to establish self-sustainability and in some cases international monopoly in areas like data (LinkedIn has been cut off in China) and rare earths, and the picture grows of a China that is reinforcing its strategic autonomy, but also cutting itself off from the rest of the world and to adopt Ó’Faoláin’s terminology, enveloping itself in a ‘Red Curtain’.

This ‘Red Curtain’ process, if my view is correct, will be gradual but nonetheless meaningful. David Sk*****g points out that trade ties between the EU and China are still strong, and that American banks are keen to further implicate themselves in the Chinese financial system (Jamie Dimon of JPM is notable here, though less so for his diplomacy). However, Germany’s new government is markedly less China friendly than the Merkel one, and various EU level oversight processes will curb foreign (Chinese) investment into Europe.

In the big picture, the ‘Red Curtain’ is consistent with other countries or leaders (Brexit/Johnson, Trump, Bolsonaro) turning away from internationalism, and confirms the trend towards multipolarity.


Red Curtain

China’s size, the late stage of its very long business cycle (with a slowing property market) mean that the prospects of a ‘Red Curtain’ need to be taken seriously.

Diplomatically, it raises the problem that a more closed off China is harder to read from outside, and somewhat harder to deal with (ask Lithuania). Domestically, there is a risk that this more ‘closed’ approach creates a sense of risk aversion across entrepreneurs, a lack of debate about policy issues (especially at a local level) and as a result of this, a policy mistake. One structural policy error might be that productivity slows.

From an investors point of view what is interesting is that the heavy-handed approach of Chinese regulators and politicians has turned Chinese equities (especially those listed abroad like Alibaba) into ‘value’ investments. In contrast if US companies that export to China (think of Apple AAPL and Tesla TSLA) were to be cut off by the ‘Red Curtain’, their valuations would crater. As an aside, I wonder if the ‘Red Curtain’ will split the MetaVerse in the sense that it offers a distinctly different experience to those that use Chinese technology, to those using Western technologies and platforms.

Notably on the other side, more fund managers have mentioned to me that the Chinese government bond market begins to look attractive compared to those in the West. In that context, Chinese assets – having for long being regarded as a structural emerging market growth play – are becoming interesting for value investors. <snip>

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0dEEX08a?pd=08VmvHiP&lang=en_US&s=i4
Political ideology been thinking about that after ... (show quote)


What's your point? Do you actually have an opinion about any of this random stuff you copied from existing articles?

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Dec 5, 2021 08:22:39   #
DASHY
 
lindajoy wrote:
I remember reading about your countries decision on v******tion being optional and not mandatory. Candidly I was a bit surprised by it but also thankful.

I think the school trying to force your daughter to be v******ted is appalling but being done in this country as well. I was not v******ted and have thus far not contracted it so the booster shot isn’t even a consideration…

I’m glad you made it clear to them that you will not have your daughter v******ted and they should mind their own business!

I follow the rules as well wearing mask when in public.. I look at it as a necessity for everyone. Social distancing has never been a problem because I simply don’t care for people being in my face so to speak as it is. Washing hands frequently keeping a clean home all the necessary things such as that a given…

As far as the Chinese v******tion why is it considered not being v******ted?? How ridiculous yet again just an excuse used for people into the jab yet again…
I remember reading about your countries decision o... (show quote)


You should have the words NOT V******TED printed on your masks so the rest of us know to avoid you.

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Dec 5, 2021 09:48:39   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
I remember reading about your countries decision on v******tion being optional and not mandatory. Candidly I was a bit surprised by it but also thankful.

I think the school trying to force your daughter to be v******ted is appalling but being done in this country as well. I was not v******ted and have thus far not contracted it so the booster shot isn’t even a consideration…

I’m glad you made it clear to them that you will not have your daughter v******ted and they should mind their own business!

I follow the rules as well wearing mask when in public.. I look at it as a necessity for everyone. Social distancing has never been a problem because I simply don’t care for people being in my face so to speak as it is. Washing hands frequently keeping a clean home all the necessary things such as that a given…

As far as the Chinese v******tion why is it considered not being v******ted?? How ridiculous yet again just an excuse used for people into the jab yet again…
I remember reading about your countries decision o... (show quote)


China's vax is based off of existing v*****e technology... A deactivated form of the v***s is introduced to the i****e s****m...

It's not the same as the m**A v**xes...

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Dec 5, 2021 09:54:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lindajoy wrote:
Political ideology been thinking about that after reading this and wanted to ask if any validity to it from your perspective..??..

In the last week, under heavy pressure from the Chinese authorities, Didi Chuxing, the ride hailing company announced it would renege its NYSE market listing and instead list in China/Hong Kong. Also, this week the Women’s Tennis Association (WTA) have suspended their tennis tournaments in China in response to the disappearance of the player Peng Shuai.

She had been ‘recalled’ to China having accused accused Zhang Gaoli formerly a high-ranking Chinese C*******t party official, of sexual assault, and she is since believed to been held under duress. While the Epstein trial shows that powerful men can behave appallingly wherever they are, the treatment of Peng is sinister, tone deaf to international public opinion and, has been repeated in the cases of other public figures.

As background I have just started reading the fascinating ‘Red Roulette’, Desmond Shum’s account of what happens to wealthy Chinese who rise too high too quickly (to spoil the surprise Shum details the murder, ‘suicides’ and disappearance of numerous Chinese billionaires).

Closed Off

Couple this with China’s antagonizing of nearly all of its neighbours (some of whom also threaten it), other snippets such as a collapse in passport issuance by the Chinese government (notwithstanding C***D), the exigencies of China’s C***D policy and a growing range of moves to establish self-sustainability and in some cases international monopoly in areas like data (LinkedIn has been cut off in China) and rare earths, and the picture grows of a China that is reinforcing its strategic autonomy, but also cutting itself off from the rest of the world and to adopt Ó’Faoláin’s terminology, enveloping itself in a ‘Red Curtain’.

This ‘Red Curtain’ process, if my view is correct, will be gradual but nonetheless meaningful. David Sk*****g points out that trade ties between the EU and China are still strong, and that American banks are keen to further implicate themselves in the Chinese financial system (Jamie Dimon of JPM is notable here, though less so for his diplomacy). However, Germany’s new government is markedly less China friendly than the Merkel one, and various EU level oversight processes will curb foreign (Chinese) investment into Europe.

In the big picture, the ‘Red Curtain’ is consistent with other countries or leaders (Brexit/Johnson, Trump, Bolsonaro) turning away from internationalism, and confirms the trend towards multipolarity.


Red Curtain

China’s size, the late stage of its very long business cycle (with a slowing property market) mean that the prospects of a ‘Red Curtain’ need to be taken seriously.

Diplomatically, it raises the problem that a more closed off China is harder to read from outside, and somewhat harder to deal with (ask Lithuania). Domestically, there is a risk that this more ‘closed’ approach creates a sense of risk aversion across entrepreneurs, a lack of debate about policy issues (especially at a local level) and as a result of this, a policy mistake. One structural policy error might be that productivity slows.

From an investors point of view what is interesting is that the heavy-handed approach of Chinese regulators and politicians has turned Chinese equities (especially those listed abroad like Alibaba) into ‘value’ investments. In contrast if US companies that export to China (think of Apple AAPL and Tesla TSLA) were to be cut off by the ‘Red Curtain’, their valuations would crater. As an aside, I wonder if the ‘Red Curtain’ will split the MetaVerse in the sense that it offers a distinctly different experience to those that use Chinese technology, to those using Western technologies and platforms.

Notably on the other side, more fund managers have mentioned to me that the Chinese government bond market begins to look attractive compared to those in the West. In that context, Chinese assets – having for long being regarded as a structural emerging market growth play – are becoming interesting for value investors. <snip>

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0dEEX08a?pd=08VmvHiP&lang=en_US&s=i4
Political ideology been thinking about that after ... (show quote)


There's a lot in there...

A few quick things...

1. Linked in wasn't banned...It pulled out because the regulations were becoming to onerous... The same as many companies...

2. China is not against using economics as a form of retribution... Didi is a good example of that...

3. The Red Curtain is a political tool aimed at weakening China's opponents...

4. China's neighbors are pretty split in regards to how they feel about China... Nations like Russia, Pakistan, Cambodia, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Laos, Vietnam, and a few others are firmly in China's camp... Others, most notably India, Japan, South Korea, The Philippines, and of course Taiwan, are more antagonistic towards them...

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Dec 5, 2021 10:23:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DASHY wrote:
What's your point? Do you actually have an opinion about any of this random stuff you copied from existing articles?


Dashy, do you have a comprehension issue or did you just miss the opening paragraph??

Re~read it, just it and I think (hope) you will have answered your questions…

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Dec 5, 2021 10:25:55   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DASHY wrote:
You should have the words NOT V******TED printed on your masks so the rest of us know to avoid you.


Better idea stay home and then you don’t need to be worried about what I do and don’t do. Just like I don’t/won’t worry about you spreading it to me… Does that work for ya???

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Dec 5, 2021 10:33:59   #
DASHY
 
lindajoy wrote:
Dashy, do you have a comprehension issue or did you just miss the opening paragraph??

Re~read it, just it and I think (hope) you will have answered your questions…


If the first sentence is the opening paragraph, I have no idea what it means. It isn't even a complete sentence. What is the subject? Where is the verb?

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Dec 5, 2021 10:36:40   #
DASHY
 
lindajoy wrote:
Better idea stay home and then you don’t need to be worried about what I do and don’t do. Just like I don’t/won’t worry about you spreading it to me… Does that work for ya???


I think it's a good idea for you to stay home if you refuse to avoid spreading the disease.

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Dec 5, 2021 10:51:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
China's vax is based off of existing v*****e technology... A deactivated form of the v***s is introduced to the i****e s****m...

It's not the same as the m**A v**xes...


Thank you, I caught that after I read a little more in the thread..

What fascinates me is the extensive contact tracing and quarantine requirements as in Beijing for instance… Do you think the current waves of Delta resurgence of late are because of the “ claimed lessor china vax” or opening up more and now doing forced lockdowns, v******ted or not is their new strategy to hit the zero tolerance level they speak of so often?? Think Australia…

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Dec 5, 2021 10:59:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DASHY wrote:
I think it's a good idea for you to stay home if you refuse to avoid spreading the disease.


I don’t have the disease and I take precautionary measures~ But I do agree you should stay home given your false pretense you can not contract it or spread it to others simply because you are v****d..

After all we all know you can do both as well as even die, right??

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