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Sep 28, 2014 00:26:36   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
lpnmajor wrote:
No, it was the Congress. Remember they wrote special legislation preventing the NSA from collecting and using meta data?


Do you really believe they ever stopped doing those things? I don't but then maybe I just read the wrong sources.

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Sep 28, 2014 03:32:39   #
meekep
 
JFlorio wrote:
What a dumbass statement. You obviously don't know what it means to be a Christian. Just saying it on death row doesn't make you one. Also genius this country is only about 1 to 2% Muslim. I agree you definetly haven't made a study. There are enough uninformed people on this site. Haven't noticed you before. Like to keep it that way.


Actually, I thought it was quite a salient statement. This country was founded with freedom in mind and once we start down that slope to limit some freedoms; all freedoms are imperiled. Jefferson was at best a mystic not a Christian: I have read some of his letters to friends where he decries Paul's errors. The constitution of this country is based in large part on the Iroquois confederacy: certainly not a Christian based group! All that being said we do not have to accept anyone k*****g anyone but the solution is not abrogating one groups rights but teaching and practicing tolerance.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:12:01   #
Liberty Tree
 
oldroy wrote:
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims get by with some of the things they get by with. For instance, the ones at the OK City mosque said they didn't even know him and on FaceBook he had pictures of him at the place. Lying is ok with them because old Mohammed said it was ok to lie to infidels. There was too much on Facebook that he had put there and if the NSA is keeping track of us as has been said lately it appears they would have had the FBI on top of this one long ago.

I have seen some terrible stuff he had on Facebook and now I know much of why I just don't go there, ever. It is past time for us to allow people like Obama and Holder force us to allow Muslims to get by with all they get by with. Try reading this pretty recent thing about the k*****g.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771940/Fired-Muslim-convert-store-worker-beheaded-female-colleague-lost-job-argument-stoning-women.html
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims ge... (show quote)


The answer to your question is yes as long as Obama is President.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:26:58   #
Caboose Loc: South Carolina
 
oldroy wrote:
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims get by with some of the things they get by with. For instance, the ones at the OK City mosque said they didn't even know him and on FaceBook he had pictures of him at the place. Lying is ok with them because old Mohammed said it was ok to lie to infidels. There was too much on Facebook that he had put there and if the NSA is keeping track of us as has been said lately it appears they would have had the FBI on top of this one long ago.

I have seen some terrible stuff he had on Facebook and now I know much of why I just don't go there, ever. It is past time for us to allow people like Obama and Holder force us to allow Muslims to get by with all they get by with. Try reading this pretty recent thing about the k*****g.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771940/Fired-Muslim-convert-store-worker-beheaded-female-colleague-lost-job-argument-stoning-women.html
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims ge... (show quote)


The fraud in the white house is the chief muslim and hes having his hay day
but his pay day is coming.

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Sep 28, 2014 08:58:58   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
oldroy wrote:
Do you really believe they ever stopped doing those things? I don't but then maybe I just read the wrong sources.


alive and well here in Utah, the sites operation. :thumbup:

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Sep 28, 2014 11:00:17   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It's too bad folks forced the NSA to stand down. They might have been able to prevent that tragedy. I guess this Is another case of hind sight being 20/20. Still, the Congressional folk who were quick to jump on the "bad NSA" bandwagon, won't admit that they were wrong. Politicians never do.


ipnmajor-agree that uninformed citizens directed their anger at NSA for allegedly spying on them. Nothing is further from the t***h. NSA is not interested in your every day conversations. They specifically look for trends and desperately try to piece the puzzle together before something tragic happens. Their activities ,however, have been curtailed by the likes of the media , a t*****r named Snowden and a few politicians who were seeking their fifteen minutes of fame. Now that someone has been be-headed in America the citizenry is asking why nobody caught on to the perpetrator. Well folks, you cannot have it both ways. Either the NSA or others try to catch these people without blow-back from the citizenry or we wait and re-act to the event after it occurs. It all boils down to whether the American people want to be more secure even if some privacy is invaded or less secure with more privacy protected. My contention has always been that if one is not plotting against the country or doing something else that could be considered subversive he/she should have nothing to fear from the NSA. Maybe the NSA could have prevented this latest atrocity had they not been forced to temper their activities to appease the citizenry. So, besides Islam, who else is to blame ?? Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 28, 2014 11:41:17   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
oldroy wrote:
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims get by with some of the things they get by with. For instance, the ones at the OK City mosque said they didn't even know him and on FaceBook he had pictures of him at the place. Lying is ok with them because old Mohammed said it was ok to lie to infidels. There was too much on Facebook that he had put there and if the NSA is keeping track of us as has been said lately it appears they would have had the FBI on top of this one long ago.

I have seen some terrible stuff he had on Facebook and now I know much of why I just don't go there, ever. It is past time for us to allow people like Obama and Holder force us to allow Muslims to get by with all they get by with. Try reading this pretty recent thing about the k*****g.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771940/Fired-Muslim-convert-store-worker-beheaded-female-colleague-lost-job-argument-stoning-women.html
I think it is past time to stop letting Muslims ge... (show quote)


we rounded up japanese americans in WWII for the wrong reasons. rounding up muslims will be for the right reasons...the main reason being, we can't tell who's who and who ain't.

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Sep 28, 2014 13:33:25   #
meekep
 
cesspool jones wrote:
we rounded up japanese americans in WWII for the wrong reasons. rounding up muslims will be for the right reasons...the main reason being, we can't tell who's who and who ain't.


Applying your logic we should round up all ex-military personnel since pre-9/11 the largest d******c t*******t operation was carried out by Timothy McVeigh. That of course would be foolish--cutting off your nose to spite your face. What we are really talking about is genocide. A group is vilified,isolated, and having no realistic or safe plan for "warehousing" this group--and reading many of the other comments on this website--appling our historical precedent of war hero General Sheridan, "The only good Indians I ever saw were dead." We have seen this principal applied to Jewish people in Europe and now the undercurrent applies it to Muslims here at home. This view I reject.

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Sep 28, 2014 16:51:57   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
harleyusa wrote:
Obummer will have holder take over the case and get the freak off for being a islamic s**t


Too bad the cops aim was not truer---then Holder and Obama would have nothing to do except keep their eyes on Ferguson!!!

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Sep 28, 2014 19:15:45   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
meekep wrote:
Applying your logic we should round up all ex-military personnel since pre-9/11 the largest d******c t*******t operation was carried out by Timothy McVeigh. That of course would be foolish--cutting off your nose to spite your face. What we are really talking about is genocide. A group is vilified,isolated, and having no realistic or safe plan for "warehousing" this group--and reading many of the other comments on this website--appling our historical precedent of war hero General Sheridan, "The only good Indians I ever saw were dead." We have seen this principal applied to Jewish people in Europe and now the undercurrent applies it to Muslims here at home. This view I reject.
Applying your logic we should round up all ex-mili... (show quote)


Did you just say that the most recent head chopping event was not done by a Muslim? He thinks he is one of them and now that he is conscious again we will be finding more and more from is mouth.

I really tire of people trying to compare that last k*****g to anything at all to do with the American Indians but maybe you don't really know the difference.

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Sep 28, 2014 20:00:15   #
Troy Loc: Virginia by way of Wisconsin
 
There was a similar question posed a "few years" back, "Are we supposed to let them threaten us from overseas? Do we HAVE to live by THEIR rules?"....Then a few men sat down, wrote out their thoughts, and the American Revolution happened. Many years later we had a similar question..."What they are doing is d********g! Why isn't someone doing something? This whole mess is about religious differences?" Again some wise men sat down, discussed options, and the US joined in the war against N**i Germany...apparently, we are out of wise men...but as an American citizen, I will personally introduce ANY jihadi to his "Allah"
In my educated opinion, Allah is the Great Satan and Muhammed his child molesting prophet.

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Sep 28, 2014 20:31:49   #
meekep
 
oldroy wrote:
Did you just say that the most recent head chopping event was not done by a Muslim? He thinks he is one of them and now that he is conscious again we will be finding more and more from is mouth.

I really tire of people trying to compare that last k*****g to anything at all to do with the American Indians but maybe you don't really know the difference.


Hmm? I just re-read my post and do not understand your conclusion that:
I think it was not done by a Muslim
You "tire of people" comparing the k*****g to American Indians

The only reports I have read stated that he was a recent convert to Islam. Given his criminal record history (when he identified as Christian) and recent behavior I would guess that the crime was driven more by mental health issues than religious ideology...but he did convert to Islam.
Secondly, my point regarding Native Americans was that the thread of this particular topic and others on this website regarding Islam and Muslims is one that, if not openly, then generally, advocates a "k**l them all" mentality regarding Muslims. I apologize that my writing did not convey this.

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Sep 28, 2014 23:03:44   #
saloopo Loc: Colorado
 
The Khorasan Group: A F**e Terror Threat to Justify Bombing Syria

http://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/28/u-s-officials-invented-terror-group-justify-bombing-syria/

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Sep 28, 2014 23:08:05   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
meekep wrote:
Hmm? I just re-read my post and do not understand your conclusion that:
I think it was not done by a Muslim
You "tire of people" comparing the k*****g to American Indians

The only reports I have read stated that he was a recent convert to Islam. Given his criminal record history (when he identified as Christian) and recent behavior I would guess that the crime was driven more by mental health issues than religious ideology...but he did convert to Islam.
Secondly, my point regarding Native Americans was that the thread of this particular topic and others on this website regarding Islam and Muslims is one that, if not openly, then generally, advocates a "k**l them all" mentality regarding Muslims. I apologize that my writing did not convey this.
Hmm? I just re-read my post and do not understand ... (show quote)


The man was shouting the words to praise allah as he k**led the woman and started stabbing the other one. Surely you have seen the things that he put up on his FaceBook website. He had also been trying to convince people at work to convert to Islam, and all these things point the same direction his conversion does. I don't see how you can talk about him like that but you are liberal enough to do so.

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Sep 29, 2014 00:43:49   #
meekep
 
oldroy wrote:
The man was shouting the words to praise allah as he k**led the woman and started stabbing the other one. Surely you have seen the things that he put up on his FaceBook website. He had also been trying to convince people at work to convert to Islam, and all these things point the same direction his conversion does. I don't see how you can talk about him like that but you are liberal enough to do so.


???"Talk about him like"...?He murdered someone and should be contained to keep us safe--he is a murderer. Again, I am referring to the larger discussion regarding Islam and Muslims generated by, one assumes, law-abiding citizens that would blame the sins of one on all and what a dangerous course that is.

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