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Nov 24, 2021 15:23:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
After watching the Justice System for over a year let criminals walk, and make hero's out of thugs, looters, and rioters I was ready to give up on the Justice System. This week, we've had two high profile Court cases in front of the public. The Rittehhouse and Arbery case. IMO the juries got the sentencing exactly correct. Maybe a little bit of Justice and common sense is returning.

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Nov 24, 2021 15:24:55   #
Liberty Tree
 
JFlorio wrote:
After watching the Justice System for over a year let criminals walk, and make hero's out of thugs, looters, and rioters I was ready to give up on the Justice System. This week, we've had two high profile Court cases in front of the public. The Rittehhouse and Arbery case. IMO the juries got the sentencing exactly correct. Maybe a little bit of Justice and common sense is returning.


It does when people go by evidence and not feelings, hatred, and blind ideology.

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Nov 24, 2021 15:26:53   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
It does when people go by evidence and not feelings, hatred, and blind ideology.


I agree exactly. I was happy to see race baiting POS Sharpton show up and really not have any thing to bitch about.

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Nov 24, 2021 16:15:20   #
pegw
 
The thing that bothered me about the Arbery case was he did pretty much what I did. Looked into (and I went into) a place under construction. It was hard to imagine I would be killed for that. Arbery was essentially lynched.

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Nov 24, 2021 16:20:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
JFlorio wrote:
I agree exactly. I was happy to see race baiting POS Sharpton show up and really not have any thing to bitch about.


Has Sharpton ever paid his back taxes? I cannot like Al Sharpton.

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Nov 24, 2021 16:34:08   #
debeda
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Has Sharpton ever paid his back taxes? I cannot like Al Sharpton.


Nah. He and Jesse Jackson have too many "ins" to have to pay taxes like regular people

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Nov 24, 2021 16:59:06   #
steve66613
 
pegw wrote:
The thing that bothered me about the Arbery case was he did pretty much what I did. Looked into (and I went into) a place under construction. It was hard to imagine I would be killed for that. Arbery was essentially lynched.


Sounds like you may have perpetrated “criminal trespass”. Certainly not a capital offense, but, very risky behavior.

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Nov 24, 2021 17:14:04   #
woodguru
 
JFlorio wrote:
After watching the Justice System for over a year let criminals walk, and make hero's out of thugs, looters, and rioters I was ready to give up on the Justice System. This week, we've had two high profile Court cases in front of the public. The Rittehhouse and Arbery case. IMO the juries got the sentencing exactly correct. Maybe a little bit of Justice and common sense is returning.


You didn't have a problem with the rule of law where charges of an underage teen owning a gun it was illegal to have, or the law he violated crossing state lines with that gun?

Hey, I'll honor a jury's decision on the murder, that is a hard thing to prove in my mind, but charges that he was guilty of with zero doubt, what about that? I think our court system is broken if hard guilt can be arbitrarily changed to innocent.

I would never favor a defendant if they broke a law beyond any shadow of doubt...responsible jurists don't do that.

Was Kyle guilty of being illegally in possession of a gun he was not old enough to own? Yes, he did in fact do that. There are no well but arguments here, yes or no, was he guilty beyond any reasonable doubt?

Did he cross jurisdictional lines with that illegally obtained gun that he was not legally able to have in his possession? Of course he did, this is not debatable, so what is the argument for a jury not doing the job they are there to do, which is to determine guilt? They are not gods, and they are not kings, they are not qualified to grant innocence where there is clearly guilt.

As a jurist you might not like having to find guilt, but that is what is demanded.

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Nov 24, 2021 17:21:45   #
woodguru
 
pegw wrote:
The thing that bothered me about the Arbery case was he did pretty much what I did. Looked into (and I went into) a place under construction. It was hard to imagine I would be killed for that. Arbery was essentially lynched.


My first wife and I did that a few times, we were looking to buy a house, and we looked at neighborhoods under construction and would get a sneak preview so to speak. We did that on some houses that were thousands of square feet and hundreds of thousands if not a million or more beyond our means, but we enjoyed doing it. We sort of knew technically we were trespassing, but figured we were clean cut and would pass any cop or security guard inquiries. We did in fact go through a few of them.

I actually can't picture a black or mexican person getting away with what we did without being looked at hard for trespassing.

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Nov 24, 2021 17:52:57   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
woodguru wrote:
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law where charges of an underage teen owning a gun it was illegal to have, or the law he violated crossing state lines with that gun?

Hey, I'll honor a jury's decision on the murder, that is a hard thing to prove in my mind, but charges that he was guilty of with zero doubt, what about that? I think our court system is broken if hard guilt can be arbitrarily changed to innocent.

I would never favor a defendant if they broke a law beyond any shadow of doubt...responsible jurists don't do that.

Was Kyle guilty of being illegally in possession of a gun he was not old enough to own? Yes, he did in fact do that. There are no well but arguments here, yes or no, was he guilty beyond any reasonable doubt?

Did he cross jurisdictional lines with that illegally obtained gun that he was not legally able to have in his possession? Of course he did, this is not debatable, so what is the argument for a jury not doing the job they are there to do, which is to determine guilt? They are not gods, and they are not kings, they are not qualified to grant innocence where there is clearly guilt.

As a jurist you might not like having to find guilt, but that is what is demanded.
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law whe... (show quote)


You do realize that everything you just posted here is a complete lie dont you? You actually sound like you are a closet member of the view show who do not know anything about anything and spout their BS to equally ignorant and stupid people. In other words, SHEEP By any other name BAAAAAAAAAH!

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Nov 24, 2021 20:01:55   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Has Sharpton ever paid his back taxes? I cannot like Al Sharpton.


No where can I found that he has.

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Nov 24, 2021 20:04:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
No sense responding. You’re nothing more than a lying troll. The actual gun law has been posted. You know that, so once again you are a worthless liar.

woodguru wrote:
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law where charges of an underage teen owning a gun it was illegal to have, or the law he violated crossing state lines with that gun?

Hey, I'll honor a jury's decision on the murder, that is a hard thing to prove in my mind, but charges that he was guilty of with zero doubt, what about that? I think our court system is broken if hard guilt can be arbitrarily changed to innocent.

I would never favor a defendant if they broke a law beyond any shadow of doubt...responsible jurists don't do that.

Was Kyle guilty of being illegally in possession of a gun he was not old enough to own? Yes, he did in fact do that. There are no well but arguments here, yes or no, was he guilty beyond any reasonable doubt?

Did he cross jurisdictional lines with that illegally obtained gun that he was not legally able to have in his possession? Of course he did, this is not debatable, so what is the argument for a jury not doing the job they are there to do, which is to determine guilt? They are not gods, and they are not kings, they are not qualified to grant innocence where there is clearly guilt.

As a jurist you might not like having to find guilt, but that is what is demanded.
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law whe... (show quote)

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Nov 25, 2021 10:45:57   #
America 1
 
woodguru wrote:
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law where charges of an underage teen owning a gun it was illegal to have, or the law he violated crossing state lines with that gun?

Hey, I'll honor a jury's decision on the murder, that is a hard thing to prove in my mind, but charges that he was guilty of with zero doubt, what about that? I think our court system is broken if hard guilt can be arbitrarily changed to innocent.

I would never favor a defendant if they broke a law beyond any shadow of a doubt...responsible jurists don't do that.

Was Kyle guilty of being illegally in possession of a gun he was not old enough to own? Yes, he did in fact do that. There are no well but arguments here, yes or no, was he guilty beyond any reasonable doubt?

Did he cross jurisdictional lines with that illegally obtained gun that he was not legally able to have in his possession? Of course, he did, this is not debatable, so what is the argument for a jury not doing the job they are there to do, which is to determine guilt? They are not gods, and they are not kings, they are not qualified to grant innocence where there is clearly guilt.

As a jurist, you might not like having to find guilt, but that is what is demanded.
You didn't have a problem with the rule of law whe... (show quote)


Your first sentence is a lie, no state lines were crossed with possession of a gun.
False media reporting that Rittenhouse transported rifle 'across state lines' leads to corrections, mockery
Reuters, CBS News, Washington Post among outlets who've corrected reporting
The persistent media falsehood that Kyle Rittenhouse was armed with an AR-15 style rifle when he "crossed state lines" before his deadly encounters in Kenosha, Wis., has led to multiple corrections and considerable mockery as the reckoning over misleading coverage of the trial continues.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/false-media-reporting-rittenhouse-state-lines

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Nov 25, 2021 12:27:30   #
microphor
 
JFlorio wrote:
After watching the Justice System for over a year let criminals walk, and make hero's out of thugs, looters, and rioters I was ready to give up on the Justice System. This week, we've had two high profile Court cases in front of the public. The Rittehhouse and Arbery case. IMO the juries got the sentencing exactly correct. Maybe a little bit of Justice and common sense is returning.


that's true and we are back to calling people who take over Federal buildings Protesters as opposed to Insurrectionist. Well "at least with certain groups of people".

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/protesters-arrested-after-storming-interior-department

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Nov 25, 2021 12:29:28   #
microphor
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Has Sharpton ever paid his back taxes? I cannot like Al Sharpton.


Al Sharpon needs Racism to exist, it's how he makes his money. If there isn't any racism, he will create it".

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