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Nov 24, 2021 17:02:04   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
permafrost wrote:
You do understand that the Veritas people got time in jail for their activities..

as to checking facts.. when I read something which seem to be "not right" which does happen once in a great while , I do look for verification, see what other news media says..

Now I will ask you.. which source would you first consider.. one which had a generations long reputation for providing news and winning awards for doing so, or one which had a mission statement to further the POV of one political group??

You nor anyone else has provided names for any of Obamas marxist indoctrination, as you want it to be.... if any of you manage to think of something I will try and respond..
You do understand that the Veritas people got time... (show quote)


MSM has proven themselves to be liars. Remember their shameless assassination of character of Nick Sandmann? They do the same constantly, and they did it again with Kyle Rittenhouse. They did it against Trump based on a dossier bought and paid for by Clinton. Even the current President and his press secretary got in on the latest smear, calling Kyle a w***e s*********t. No shame, no scruples, 'cause people like you take it as gospel t***h, and that's the propaganda they need you to swallow to keep them in power. I learned when I was about 13 or so, that the the press had a very hard time getting the t***h strait. Every time they reported something where I knew the facts, they always distorted something. Every. Time. I guess they learned what sells. Too bad you haven't caught on.

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Nov 24, 2021 17:05:41   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
America 1 wrote:
Obama's Marxist indoctrination providers have been named.
FBI papers obtained by government watchdog Judicial Watch document hard-core c*******m in the family of Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's most trusted and influential White House advisor. Here's what they reveal about her Chicago kin, who was known as "concealed C*******ts":

Her late father, James E. Bowman, was involved with C*******t front groups and was in contact with a paid Soviet agent in the 1950s — Alfred Stern — who was wanted for espionage.

Jarrett's maternal grandfather, Robert Rochon Taylor, was investigated by the FBI for his membership in C*******t groups and his business relationship with the same Soviet agent tied to her father.

Her late father-in-law, Vernon D. Jarrett, was assigned by the C*******t Party USA to a special cultural arts "cell" that spread "the C*******t Party line" and ran publicity for c*******t candidates and also raised money for them, the FBI says.

He helped the cell spread c*******t propaganda "among the middle class," indoctrinating them through newspaper columns, radio shows, speeches, plays, and other cultural anesthesia.

Jarrett was such a threat as a C*******t propagandist that he was f**gged by the FBI as an internal security risk to be swiftly arrested in the event of a hot war with the Soviet Union. The FBI also investigated his wife, Fernetta "Fern" Jarrett, for C*******t activities.

These FBI files on Jarrett's relatives are voluminous, covering their un-American activities during the height of the Cold War when the FBI said the C*******t Party USA sought to alter the American form of government "by unconstitutional means." (Sound familiar?)

That people running our country are the children of C*******ts ought to trigger an avalanche of in-depth news stories. Yet even with documentary evidence to safely guide them, the White House press corps yawns.

"If her father was waving the Confederate f**g, I'm sure there'd be massive media interest in how that impacted (Valerie Jarrett's) politics," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told us.

Long before Obama was nominated in 2008, we ran a controversial series called "The Audacity of Socialism," in which we tried to warn v**ers that Obama and his ilk were a different breed of Democrat.

These weren't garden-variety liberals, we argued, but radicals orbiting anti-American subversives whom Democrats like Truman and Kennedy once went after.

We also noted that Obama himself was the son of a socialist anthropologist and Marxist economist who met in a college Russian-language studies class. Now it turns out that his top aide comes from the same C*******t family. Connecting the dots further, both the Jarrett and Obama clans are tied to Frank Marshall Davis. A card-carrying member of the C*******t Party USA, Davis worked in Chicago in the same Soviet fronts with Jarrett's father-in-law, as well as her grandfather Taylor, the first African-American head of the Chicago Housing Authority.

Davis also worked with Harry and David Canter, Soviet agents who took Obama political advisor David Axelrod, another Red diaper baby (his mother worked for a C*******t newspaper), under their wing.

The FBI had Davis, who in C*******t organs advocated for socialized medicine, bashed Wall Street banks and demonized Winston Churchill (sound familiar?), under surveillance for two decades.

After it put him on its "security index," targeting him for arrest, he fled Chicago for Honolulu. There, Davis befriended Obama's grandfather, Stanley Dunham, a C*******t sympathizer with an FBI case file. Dunham arranged young Obama's indoctrination by Davis.

That Obama would end up working as an agitator in Chicago — the birthplace of the C*******t Party USA — is no coincidence. Eventually, Jarrett would plug him into her Hyde Park neighbors — C*******t terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn — who launched his political career in a fundraiser held in their living room.

Ayers is also a neighbor and friend of Jarrett's mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, who co-founded the l*****t Erickson Institute with fellow traveler Erik Erikson and sat on its board with Ayers' father and daughter-in-law.

C*******t nuts don't fall far from the tree. Tragically for our country, which is seeing its health care system ruined and its borders and national security erased, the nuts fell into the White House.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-and-top-advisor-jarrett-come-from-long-line-of-c*******ts/
Obama's Marxist indoctrination providers have been... (show quote)


Sorry, you are wasting your time with permalost. In another world. First class twister of t***h to fit a delusional naritive.



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Nov 24, 2021 17:28:11   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Sorry, you are wasting your time with permalost. In another world. First class twister of t***h to fit a delusional naritive.


I agree, he appears to be a total waste of time. But there may be those who are on the fence that need to see his double standards and have his fallacious arguments exposed for the deception they are.

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Nov 24, 2021 17:41:00   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America 1 wrote:
Obama's Marxist indoctrination providers have been named.
FBI papers obtained by government watchdog Judicial Watch document hard-core c*******m in the family of Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's most trusted and influential White House advisor. Here's what they reveal about her Chicago kin, who was known as "concealed C*******ts":

Her late father, James E. Bowman, was involved with C*******t front groups and was in contact with a paid Soviet agent in the 1950s — Alfred Stern — who was wanted for espionage.

Jarrett's maternal grandfather, Robert Rochon Taylor, was investigated by the FBI for his membership in C*******t groups and his business relationship with the same Soviet agent tied to her father.

Her late father-in-law, Vernon D. Jarrett, was assigned by the C*******t Party USA to a special cultural arts "cell" that spread "the C*******t Party line" and ran publicity for c*******t candidates and also raised money for them, the FBI says.

He helped the cell spread c*******t propaganda "among the middle class," indoctrinating them through newspaper columns, radio shows, speeches, plays, and other cultural anesthesia.

Jarrett was such a threat as a C*******t propagandist that he was f**gged by the FBI as an internal security risk to be swiftly arrested in the event of a hot war with the Soviet Union. The FBI also investigated his wife, Fernetta "Fern" Jarrett, for C*******t activities.

These FBI files on Jarrett's relatives are voluminous, covering their un-American activities during the height of the Cold War when the FBI said the C*******t Party USA sought to alter the American form of government "by unconstitutional means." (Sound familiar?)

That people running our country are the children of C*******ts ought to trigger an avalanche of in-depth news stories. Yet even with documentary evidence to safely guide them, the White House press corps yawns.

"If her father was waving the Confederate f**g, I'm sure there'd be massive media interest in how that impacted (Valerie Jarrett's) politics," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told us.

Long before Obama was nominated in 2008, we ran a controversial series called "The Audacity of Socialism," in which we tried to warn v**ers that Obama and his ilk were a different breed of Democrat.

These weren't garden-variety liberals, we argued, but radicals orbiting anti-American subversives whom Democrats like Truman and Kennedy once went after.

We also noted that Obama himself was the son of a socialist anthropologist and Marxist economist who met in a college Russian-language studies class. Now it turns out that his top aide comes from the same C*******t family. Connecting the dots further, both the Jarrett and Obama clans are tied to Frank Marshall Davis. A card-carrying member of the C*******t Party USA, Davis worked in Chicago in the same Soviet fronts with Jarrett's father-in-law, as well as her grandfather Taylor, the first African-American head of the Chicago Housing Authority.

Davis also worked with Harry and David Canter, Soviet agents who took Obama political advisor David Axelrod, another Red diaper baby (his mother worked for a C*******t newspaper), under their wing.

The FBI had Davis, who in C*******t organs advocated for socialized medicine, bashed Wall Street banks and demonized Winston Churchill (sound familiar?), under surveillance for two decades.

After it put him on its "security index," targeting him for arrest, he fled Chicago for Honolulu. There, Davis befriended Obama's grandfather, Stanley Dunham, a C*******t sympathizer with an FBI case file. Dunham arranged young Obama's indoctrination by Davis.

That Obama would end up working as an agitator in Chicago — the birthplace of the C*******t Party USA — is no coincidence. Eventually, Jarrett would plug him into her Hyde Park neighbors — C*******t terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn — who launched his political career in a fundraiser held in their living room.

Ayers is also a neighbor and friend of Jarrett's mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, who co-founded the l*****t Erickson Institute with fellow traveler Erik Erikson and sat on its board with Ayers' father and daughter-in-law.

C*******t nuts don't fall far from the tree. Tragically for our country, which is seeing its health care system ruined and its borders and national security erased, the nuts fell into the White House.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-and-top-advisor-jarrett-come-from-long-line-of-c*******ts/
Obama's Marxist indoctrination providers have been... (show quote)



An old chestnut indeed.. So you hope to damage President Obama by talking dirt on the ancestors of his aide.. damn what an idea..

So, to put bullets in you smoke stick.. what c*******t deeds did Valerie do? And consider this conversation was about dems and Obama, not his aide.. this stuff may have been hot for you in 2008, but this is 2021 and long ago dealt with.

Judicial Watch is long known from its inception during the 90 as a gunner group for the conservative group of the republican party.. no hiding it at all.. and they have never had any impartiality..

Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group[1] that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct by government officials. Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Presidency of Bill Clinton, the Presidency of Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. It was founded by attorney Larry Klayman, and has been led by Tom Fitton since 2003.

The organization has described climate science as "fraud science" and has filed lawsuits against government climate scientists. JW has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims that have been picked up by right-wing news outlets and promoted by conservative figures. Former U.S President Donald Trump has repeatedly cited false claims by Judicial Watch about v***r f***d. Courts have dismissed the vast majority of its lawsuits.[2]

If you try and bash President Obama, you should bring up things that he did. not the ancestors of an aide or claims made by a group bent on the very thing you wish for at any cost..

You still have nothing..

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Nov 24, 2021 17:55:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
TommyRadd wrote:
MSM has proven themselves to be liars. Remember their shameless assassination of character of Nick Sandmann? They do the same constantly, and they did it again with Kyle Rittenhouse. They did it against Trump based on a dossier bought and paid for by Clinton. Even the current President and his press secretary got in on the latest smear, calling Kyle a w***e s*********t. No shame, no scruples, 'cause people like you take it as gospel t***h, and that's the propaganda they need you to swallow to keep them in power. I learned when I was about 13 or so, that the the press had a very hard time getting the t***h strait. Every time they reported something where I knew the facts, they always distorted something. Every. Time. I guess they learned what sells. Too bad you haven't caught on.
MSM has proven themselves to be liars. Remember th... (show quote)



The Nick Sandmann incident was not shameless, based only on the appearance of what went on, the kid was everything the media said he was.. but he won a bunch of money. so good for him..

That dossier was stated by anti trump republicans..

Kyle was at best only the dumbest person on the street that night..

The chasing for BS to toss at democrat's has been ongoing from the days of Goldwater.. never change lie and lie some more .. toss out anything you do not like and insist it is part of a great conspiracy, but only anti american acts are done by republicans storming the capital to murder elected officials.
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This conversation stated as an effort to show President Obama was a c*******t..
But as always, no t***h is possible because the whole idea is a lie.. told to you for repetition..

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Nov 24, 2021 18:11:04   #
moldyoldy
 
TommyRadd wrote:
You should take your own advice. The lies from the MSM are constant...and despicable. You should check out Project Veritas and all the retractions they have forced the MSM to submit.

I see you are still trying to deflect from addressing Obama's Marxist indoctrination.





https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-f**e-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

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Nov 24, 2021 21:51:31   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
The Nick Sandmann incident was not shameless, based only on the appearance of what went on, the kid was everything the media said he was.. but he won a bunch of money. so good for him.

That dossier was stated by anti-trump republicans.

Kyle was at best only the dumbest person on the street that night.

The chasing for BS to toss at Democrats has been ongoing from the days of Goldwater.. never change lie and lie some more .. toss out anything you do not like and insist it is part of a great conspiracy, but only anti-American acts are done by republicans storming the capital to murder elected officials.
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This conversation started as an effort to show President Obama was a c*******t.
But as always, no t***h is possible because the whole idea is a lie. told to you for repetition.
The Nick Sandmann incident was not shameless, base... (show quote)



Obama’s C*******t Mentor
Frank Marshall Davis parroted the C*******t line and attacked Democratic icon, Harry Truman.
When you write a book, particularly one that requires several years of research, you tend to encounter a bunch of unexpected information. Sometimes you find things that, if reported, will undoubtedly prompt partisans to demand you explain yourself. For me, this begins that process of explaining, given that one of the major characters in my new book on American C*******ts, Dupes, is Frank Marshall Davis.
Allegations regarding Davis’s C*******m are sure to infuriate the Left because of the influence Davis once had over our president. He was a drinking buddy of Barack Obama’s maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, and spent time with young Obama. He turns up in the president’s memoir, Dreams from My Father, shrewdly identified only as “Frank”: “I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes.” Recently, a U.S. C*******t-party official confirmed the relationship, bragging in a speech of the C*******t Davis’s formative influence over Obama. And yet when the allegations surfaced during the 2008 campaign, they went virtually unreported in the mainstream media.
After an almost four-year-long sojourn in which I tried to ascertain whether Davis was a progressive duped by C*******ts, or, conversely, a C*******t who duped progressives, I determined the latter. No doubt, this conclusion — which means the leader of the free world was strongly influenced by a Marxist — will bring the unholy wrath of liberals. Yet, they should brace themselves for another kind of anger. Once they read what Davis did and wrote, they might redirect their rage. In t***h, Davis’s targets were mainly Democrats, and especially a Democratic icon, Harry Truman. What Davis said about Truman was unbelievably outrageous. Worse, he said it because it was the Moscow line.
Since the early 1990s, I’ve been absorbed with archives from the Soviet and C*******t world — I’ve looked at every kind of declassified holding. In recent years, I’ve concentrated on an extraordinary cache of material from the Comintern Archives on C*******t Party USA (CPUSA). This material is utterly damning to the American Left, especially in its vindication of the worst fears and warnings of anti-C*******ts. Not surprisingly, our illustrious When I heard the accusations that Davis was both a C*******t and a former mentor of Obama’s, I began noticing his name in documents, from House and Senate investigations to materials for hideous C*******t fronts such as the American Peace Mobilization, a group that supported or opposed Hitler based entirely on whether he was signing non-aggression pacts with Stalin’s USSR or invading Stalin’s USSR. This group also unrelentingly demonized Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
I learned that Davis served as an editor and writer for a C*******t-line publication, the Chicago Star, in the 1930s. I next learned that the Midwest native had flown thousands of miles away to Hawaii to take up permanent residence, just when American C*******ts were looking to launch a publication there, namely the Honolulu Record. Subsequently, Davis wrote a weekly column for that publication.

With the help of two super-impressive researchers, including one living in Hawaii, I procured Davis’s weekly “Frank-ly Speaking” columns for the Record. These writings flawlessly parroted official Soviet propaganda and portrayed the likes of Harry Truman, George Marshall, and other courageous Democrats as colonialist-imperialist-f*****t-r****t monsters. Davis even denounced the Marshall Plan. As any student of this era knows, only the Soviet Union, via the public voices of Stalin and Molotov, took this absurd position.

In column after column, Davis claimed Truman craved not only a “third world war,” but to “rule Russia.” Davis said that Truman’s “f*****m, American style” was motivated by an anti-C*******m that was fueled by veiled r****m. Davis repeatedly asserted that the Soviet Union not only desired peace — as Stalin seized Eastern Europe, while also k*****g tens of millions of his own people — but had abolished poverty, unemployment, and even r****m.

Such examples from Davis are so voluminous that they constitute the longest chapter in my 600-plus-page book. Summarizing them here is impossible. But here are three telling examples.
The real smoking gun, however, is Davis’s declassified 600-page FBI file, which was recently released through a freedom-of-information request by a fellow researcher. A cursory glance at these pages — which include accounts by informants and eyewitnesses — quickly reveals that Davis was a C*******t. As evidence for readers, we have isolated and published about a dozen pages from the file in the appendix of my book, including one that lists Davis’s actual C*******t-party number: 47544.
That number is consistent with those of the period. Consider the C*******t-party numbers of some of the Hollywood Ten figures whom liberals laughably still defend as innocent lambs: John Howard Lawson (47275), Albert Maltz (47196), Alvah Bessie (46836).

In sum, a mentor of the current president of the United States was a C*******t — and not only a party member, but an actual propagandist for Stalin’s USSR, a man who unceasingly demonized Democratic presidents and their policies and cherished ideals. Even in World War II, Davis was on the wrong side: He was flatly pro-Soviet and anti-American.

If you feel like you’ve been duped, or at least deprived of some significant background information about the man who is now the elected leader of the free world, you can thank our shameless, woefully biased media for failing to do its job.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2010/10/obamas-c*******t-mentor-paul-kengor/

He adopted slogans like “Forward” and “Change.” He wanted to t***sform America through what he called “fundamental change.”
He was skeptical of preachers and their effect on God-and-gun clinging Americans and saw the Catholic Church as an obstacle to his vision for the state. He argued that Christians should support his ideas and enthusiastically sought the support of the “social justice” Religious Left. Moreover, many people were unclear about his personal religious beliefs, including whether he was a Christian.
Who is this man?
If you answered “Barack Obama,” you’re only half right. The answer is Frank Marshall Davis, Hawaii mentor to a young Barack Obama, and C*******t Party member 47544.
Davis was introduced to a nine-year-old Obama in the fall of 1970 by Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Dunham, who was seeking a black-male role model or father figure to mentor his grandson. He and the young Obama met many times throughout the 1970s, often for hours at a time late into evenings. Obama refers to Davis literally dozens of times in every part of his bestselling memoirs, Dreams from My Father.
Long ignored, Davis is the subject of my new book—and Catholics should pay attention, given that Davis had some choice words for them and their church. Not unlike the young man he mentored, Barack Obama, Davis saw the Catholic Church as an obstacle to his vision for the state.
Frank Marshall Davis’s vision was a very far-left one. He pushed the federal government to adopt socialist policies, with more and more power concentrated in Washington. He wanted the United States to go the direction of the Soviet Union. And Davis understood that the one institution standing in the way most vehemently was the Roman Catholic Church. “The Catholic hierarchy,” he sneered, had launched a “holy war against c*******m.”
Indeed it had—and deservedly so. Nothing anywhere in the world persecuted the religious—and people generally—quite like c*******m. The Church correctly saw Soviet c*******m as truly, genuinely evil. But Frank Marshall Davis fully disagreed, and he would target the Church as an obstacle to his plans to fundamentally change America.
And so, Davis targeted the Church in commentaries he wrote for the Chicago Star, the C*******t Party publication of which he was the founding editor-in-chief from 1946-48.
In one commentary, a July 20, 1946 piece titled, “A-Bombs for Russia,” Davis began by expressing his admiration for Stalin’s Russia: “I salute the Soviet Union,” stated Davis. “I admire Russia for wiping out an economic system which permitted a handful of rich to exploit and beat gold from the millions of plain people…. As one who believes in freedom and democracy for all, I honor the Red nation.”
Yet, as Davis hailed Joe Stalin’s state for its alleged freedom and democracy, there was something else he didn’t admire: It was the “Big Money Boys” and so-called “prostitute press [that] brazenly solicits public h**e for [the Soviet Union].” Among those that Davis listed as “h**e evangelists” was Cardinal Francis Spellman, who, by Davis’s estimation, longed to “knock out Russia” by bombing it to the Stone Age.
Said Davis: “We’ve got to make the plain people realize that those h**e evangelists preaching war against Russia are their enemies and that peace, freedom, and democracy can come only from forcing official America to work in harmony with the Soviet Union.”
Yes, that is, Stalin’s Soviet Union—which, according to Frank Marshall Davis, wanted peace.
Who was obstructing that peace? Davis blamed Harry Truman, the Marshall Plan, Wall Street, big business, capitalism, the press, and the likes of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic Church. Not only were these sources “h**e evangelists,” according to Frank Marshall Davis, but they were the new “Pontius Pilates.”
Davis portrayed c*******m and the Soviet Union as friendly to Christianity; thus, those opposing Soviet c*******m were, in the words of Frank Marshall Davis, modern-day “Pontius Pilates.”


In his memoir, Barack Obama omits the full name of his mentor, simply calling him "Frank." Now, the t***h is out: Never has a figure as deeply troubling and controversial as Frank Marshall Davis had such an impact on the development of an American president. Although other radical influences on Obama-from Jeremiah Wright to Bill Ayers-have been scrutinized, the public knows little about Davis, a card-carrying member of the C*******t Party USA, cited by the Associated Press as an "important influence" on Obama, one whom he "looked to" not merely for "advice on living" but as a "father" figure. While the Left has willingly dismissed Davis (with good reason), here are the indisputable, eye-opening facts: Frank Marshall Davis was a pro-Soviet, pro-Red China c*******t. His C*******t Party USA card number, revealed in FBI files, was CP number 47544. He was a prototype of the loyal Soviet patriot, so radical that the FBI placed him on the federal government's Security Index. In the early 1950s, Davis opposed the U.S. attempts to slow Stalin and Mao. He favored Red Army takeovers of Central and Eastern Europe and c*******t control in Korea and Vietnam. Dutifully serving the cause, he edited and wrote for c*******t newspapers in both Chicago and Honolulu, courting contributors who were Soviet agents. In the 1970s, amid this dangerous political theater, Frank Marshall Davis came into Barack Obama's life. Aided by access to explosive declassified FBI files, Soviet archives, and Davis's original newspaper columns, Paul Kengor explores how Obama sought out Davis and how Davis found in Obama an impressionable young man, one susceptible to Davis's worldview that opposed American policy and traditional values while praising c*******t regimes. Kengor sees remnants of this worldview in Obama's early life and even, ultimately, his presidency. Kengor charts with definitive accuracy the progression of Davis's c*******t ideas from Chicago to Hawaii. He explores how certain elements of the Obama administration's agenda reflect Davis's columns advocating wealth redistribution, government stimulus for "public works projects," taxpayer-funding of universal health care, and nationalizing General Motors. Davis's writings excoriated the "tentacles of big business," blasted Wall Street and "greedy" millionaires, lambasted GOP tax cuts that "spare the rich," attacked "excess profits" and oil companies, and perceived the Catholic Church as an obstacle to his vision for the state-all the while echoing Davis's often repeated mantra for t***sformational and fundamental "change."And yet, The C*******t is not unsympathetic to Davis, revealing him as something of a victim, an African American who suffered devastating racial persecution in the Jim Crow era, steering this justly angered young man on a misguided political track. That Davis supported violent and heartless c*******t regimes over his own country is impossible to defend. That he was a source of inspiration to President Barack Obama is impossible to ignore.
Is Obama working to fulfill the dreams of Frank Marshall Davis? That question has been impossible to answer since Davis's writings and relationship with Obama have either been deliberately obscured or dismissed as irrelevant. With Kengor's The C*******t, Americans can finally weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.
The c*******t: Frank Marshall Davis: the untold story of Barack Obama's mentor
https://boulder.flatironslibrary.org/GroupedWork/56342f29-809a-f3d8-57c8-a6d6f767fc51/Home

The C*******t: Frank Marshall Davis: The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mentor
https://www.politics-prose.com/book/9798200075614

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Nov 24, 2021 21:54:36   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Tom, my opinion is not a lie, anymore than anyone else.... you should do a great deal of checking before you echo those words from the alt media each day..

As a matter of course anything from a alt media should by reflex be considered a lie until verified by some other source.. you would nearly always be correct..


"as a matter of course...." You might want to check out how many times the MSM has been forced to retract statements, rewrite articles, and pay out settlements compared to....oh, say....Fox News, for example. You know Fox News don't you? The official fact checker for the main stream media.

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Nov 24, 2021 22:05:58   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
TommyRadd wrote:
MSM has proven themselves to be liars. Remember their shameless assassination of character of Nick Sandmann? They do the same constantly, and they did it again with Kyle Rittenhouse. They did it against Trump based on a dossier bought and paid for by Clinton. Even the current President and his press secretary got in on the latest smear, calling Kyle a w***e s*********t. No shame, no scruples, 'cause people like you take it as gospel t***h, and that's the propaganda they need you to swallow to keep them in power. I learned when I was about 13 or so, that the the press had a very hard time getting the t***h strait. Every time they reported something where I knew the facts, they always distorted something. Every. Time. I guess they learned what sells. Too bad you haven't caught on.
MSM has proven themselves to be liars. Remember th... (show quote)


Completely agree. I was a loyal CNN junkie....until they happened to issue a report on something that I personally knew about. So I started doing some checking and comparing. I was appalled at the lies and distortions I found, and that was way back in 1996. They have gotten FAR worse. And the big ones coordinate with each other, so when folks like Perm check out the "facts" as lied about at CNN by comparing it to what ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and the NYTs have to say, of COURSE they corroborate each other. As you stated, look at the lies about Rittenhouse that were repeated over and over and over for the last year. Look how many of the media are quietly printing retractions since the dreaded "law suits" have been mentioned.
Fox News! Official fact checker to the media.

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Nov 24, 2021 22:48:40   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
LOL: If this is great......

Afghanistan debacle

southern border crisis

Rampant inflation

Ending our energy independence and made us beggars to OPEC

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"


True energy independence will come with reusable energy.

Inflation, yeah that's new, LOL but right now due to people spending, and oil companies want to make up their losses.

Border crises...you mean for the last two decades? At least children are not being torn away from their parents in a foreign country.

Parents cut out of their children's education, not if they don't want to be, more hype you believe. School systems are about the most locally controlled system we have. More BS.

Climate crises is real WTFU.

"Defund the police", another political maneuver, all propaganda you buy into. Like Death counsels, remember them?

Sanctuary cities, Yeah what about them, you think Biden created them? LOL They've been around since 1979.

Believe women? I dunno, you asking me? I don't not believe or believe people by g****r, do you?

This has been fun, next...

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Nov 24, 2021 22:54:12   #
Cuda2020
 
permafrost wrote:
An old chestnut indeed.. So you hope to damage President Obama by talking dirt on the ancestors of his aide.. damn what an idea..

So, to put bullets in you smoke stick.. what c*******t deeds did Valerie do? And consider this conversation was about dems and Obama, not his aide.. this stuff may have been hot for you in 2008, but this is 2021 and long ago dealt with.

Judicial Watch is long known from its inception during the 90 as a gunner group for the conservative group of the republican party.. no hiding it at all.. and they have never had any impartiality..

Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group[1] that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct by government officials. Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Presidency of Bill Clinton, the Presidency of Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. It was founded by attorney Larry Klayman, and has been led by Tom Fitton since 2003.

The organization has described climate science as "fraud science" and has filed lawsuits against government climate scientists. JW has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims that have been picked up by right-wing news outlets and promoted by conservative figures. Former U.S President Donald Trump has repeatedly cited false claims by Judicial Watch about v***r f***d. Courts have dismissed the vast majority of its lawsuits.[2]

If you try and bash President Obama, you should bring up things that he did. not the ancestors of an aide or claims made by a group bent on the very thing you wish for at any cost..

You still have nothing..
An old chestnut indeed.. So you hope to damage Pre... (show quote)


That's what they usually have, well except for hype and insults.

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Nov 24, 2021 22:56:16   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
True energy independence will come with reusable energy.

Inflation, yeah that's new, LOL but right now due to people spending, and oil companies want to make up their losses.

Border crises...you mean for the last two decades? At least children are not being torn away from their parents in a foreign country.

Parents cut out of their children's education, not if they don't want to be, more hype you believe. School systems are about the most locally controlled system we have. More BS.

Climate crises are real WTFU.

"Defund the police", another political maneuver, all propaganda you buy into. Like Death counsels, remember them?

Sanctuary cities, Yeah what about them, you think Biden created them? LOL, They've been around since 1979.

Believe women? I dunno, you asking me? I don't believe or not believe people by g****r, do you?

This has been fun, next...
True energy independence will come with reusable e... (show quote)


It's always fun in a world of delusions.

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Nov 24, 2021 23:00:22   #
Cuda2020
 
America 1 wrote:
It's always fun in a world of delusions.


Well you righty's know that for sure.

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Nov 25, 2021 06:16:34   #
American Vet
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
True energy independence will come with reusable energy.

Inflation, yeah that's new, LOL but right now due to people spending, and oil companies want to make up their losses.

Border crises...you mean for the last two decades? At least children are not being torn away from their parents in a foreign country.

Parents cut out of their children's education, not if they don't want to be, more hype you believe. School systems are about the most locally controlled system we have. More BS.

Climate crises is real WTFU.

"Defund the police", another political maneuver, all propaganda you buy into. Like Death counsels, remember them?

Sanctuary cities, Yeah what about them, you think Biden created them? LOL They've been around since 1979.

Believe women? I dunno, you asking me? I don't not believe or believe people by g****r, do you?

This has been fun, next...
True energy independence will come with reusable e... (show quote)



>>>True energy independence will come with reusable energy.

Intentional dodge on your part.


>>>Inflation, yeah that's new, LOL but right now due to people spending, and oil companies want to make up their losses.

IOW, you have a baseless opinion
https://www.atr.org/inflation-surging-under-biden-administration
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/577933-bidens-big-labor-policies-will-create-next-round-of-inflation
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/politics/joe-biden-inflation-messaging/index.html


>>>Border crises...you mean for the last two decades? At least children are not being torn away from their parents in a foreign country.

Biden's Border Crisis Under President Joe Biden's tenure, illegal border crossings have risen to levels not seen in over 21 years
https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/061021_Border-Crisis-Timeline.pdf

https://abcnews.go.com/US/crisis-border-happened/story?id=78312099


>>>Parents cut out of their children's education, not if they don't want to be, more hype you believe. School systems are about the most locally controlled system we have. More BS.

BS?
Is that why Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe recently did, “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”?
Is that why the National School Board Association (NBSA) sent a letter to President Biden comparing angry parents’ speeches at school board meetings to “domestic terrorism and h**e crimes.”
Is that why the DoJ/FBI are getting involved in completely local matters?

>>>Climate crises is real WTFU.

But the question is: Can bankrupting the US change that?


>>>"Defund the police", another political maneuver, all propaganda you buy into. Like Death counsels, remember them?

Interesting that the propaganda appears to be based on actual events:

More than 20 major cities have reduced their police budgets in some form, an unprecedented trend
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-t***sferring-money-community

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/13/at-least-13-cities-are-defunding-their-police-departments/


>>>Death panel

Educate yourself about the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research:


>>>Sanctuary cities, Yeah what about them, you think Biden created them? LOL They've been around since 1979.

Cite your source - I would be interested in that info.


>>>Believe women? I dunno, you asking me? I don't not believe or believe people by g****r, do you?

Pathetic dodge


Indeed it has been fun. I love educating you.

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Nov 25, 2021 09:36:09   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
permafrost wrote:
The Nick Sandmann incident was not shameless, based only on the appearance of what went on, the kid was everything the media said he was...
...


What a total lie!

This is really all the evidence we need that you swallow hook, line and sinker any and every lie the media wants to fabricate, even at the expense of defaming the character and reputation of a 16 year old child, to his detriment for the rest of his life, for doing nothing more “sinister” than wearing a hat in front of one of our nation’s memorials t freedom! The utterly detestable smear of Sandmann should be considered child abuse, and it is by folks with intact good morals. But here you are as good as justifying it. Says all we need to know of your “discernment” and character.

Folks, if we were at a “people zoo”, and we walked up to an exhibit where the “critter” inside was labeled, “useful i***t”, someone like Permalost is what you’d see on display for everyone to gawk at. Permafrost is displaying exactly what Lenin’s “useful i***ts” look, smell, taste, feel, talk and think like!

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8 Levels of Control- Useful I***ts by Saul Alinsky

Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on this writing and Obama writes about him in his books.

Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.

Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA Education: University of Chicago Spouse: Irene Alinsky Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals.

Anyone out there think that this stuff isn’t happening today in the US?


All 8 rules are currently in play.

How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.
Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.
Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the government and schools.
Class Welfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more disconnect, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


Does this sound like what is happening to the United States of America?

Saul Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by c*******m, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as “Useful I***ts”

The Useful i***ts have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the US. “It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere”.
-http://www.kegley-inc.com/8-levels-control-useful-i***ts-saul-alinsky/

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Yes, the “useful i***ts” are the ones ultimately to blame!

All the evidence we need is right before our eyes, and these “useful i***ts” not only don’t see it, not only don’t reject it, they actually justify it! And that feeds the elitist’s self-delusion that these “useful i***ts” need them, as their handlers, to dictate what to think, believe, act and react.

And these useful i***ts are all too happy to comply… because, gee, look at all the free stuff they offer!

It is pitiful and repulsive at the same time.

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