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Oct 31, 2021 15:50:47   #
tbutkovich
 
ACP45 wrote:
Salty, I don't know where you get your data, but I must disagree with "In areas where v******tions are low, serious c***d, and deaths are much higher." The most highly v******ted countries are Gibraltar, Malta, Iceland, Belgium, Singapore, Israel, and the UK. Check out their mortality rates here:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-c****-**-v*****e-champions-increased-hospitalization/5757173


The data supports the science which supports the premise that it is better to be unv****d rather than v****d.

As Biden once said: “Believe the t***h over the facts!” Come On Man!

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Oct 31, 2021 16:11:48   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
ACP45 wrote:
If anyone on this site would like to discuss/debate/take issue with any of the points that Dr. Zalenko makes in this interview, I will be happy to engage you in a discussion. But I refuse to be drawn into name-calling and wishing actual harm on anyone, like some of our uninformed, misinformed, and potty mouthed friends on the left.


Lol, you?

What are your credentials please? Besides watching videos...

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Oct 31, 2021 17:00:02   #
debeda
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The data supports the science which supports the premise that it is better to be unv****d rather than v****d.

As Biden once said: “Believe the t***h over the facts!” Come On Man!


👍👍👍👍👍

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Nov 1, 2021 06:57:47   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
ACP45 wrote:
Dr. Zelenko begins the conversation explaining we are living through a global bio weapon attack, the people have the cure to fight it. But this attack was well coordinated and the world elite were in on it. Their main goal is depopulation and control.

Here is one "Key Point" for you to think about.

19:34 in the video:
"there is a global psychosis going on. People are no longer able to think rationally or analytical thought, and do things emotionally to relieve their pain. That's why they gravitate to such things as the v*****e. Even intelligent people, without thinking through it. Because they don't want to live in that fear state anymore. So they believe that by taking this v*****e, it will reduce their fear, and allow them to re-integrate into society. What happens if you challenge their narrative, they become belligerent. Why, because if you challenge their narrative, you bring them back into their fear state they don't want to be in.

This is psychological warfare. Anyone who has studied, can see that the use of fear, and isolation over a period of 6 months, causes a psychological decompensation in the person, and they become completely gullible, and you can manipulate them to do wh**ever you want."

https://rumble.com/vogp3p-dr.-zelenko-we-are-living-through-a-global-bio-weapon-attack-people-have-th.html
Dr. Zelenko begins the conversation explaining we ... (show quote)


Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this theory is? I mean really, the elite class of the entire world got together to develop and spread a new v***s to gain world control and reduce population. The leaders of the world can't get together to decide on whether to have tea or coffee for breakfast. How in the world would they come together for something this sinister???? All of these world leaders are doing what they can to get their people v******ted, and all went through shutdowns and some are still going through shutdowns. If they developed a distributed a v***s and are now doing all they can to stop it, WHY? That makes absolutely no sense and is beyond ridiculous.

If you want to understand why the "V****d" are getting more and more pissed off at the A*****xxers, it's not rocket science. Science and our last 18 months of history proves that the v*****es, while not perfect, work pretty damned good. The last three months the C***d cases in this country have been at their worse in many areas, including my home state of Idaho. Doctors, local news programs and the republican governor of this deep red state were pleading with people to get v******ted. We were at our highest case loads of the entire p******c here in Idaho in September. And 98% of the C***d patients in our overflowing hospitals and 100% of the body bags filling the local morgues and refrigerated trailers being used to house the overflow were unv******ted. We went to standards of care here in Idaho, basically doctors making decisions on who gets a bed based upon who seems to have the highest potential for survival. All BECAUSE of the unv******ted in our midst. How would you like to be in a car accident, arrive at the hospital, and wait for 6 hours to get an ICU room, if you are lucky, because even though the hospital has converted three complete floors to C***d wards and ICU units, there still is no room?

So we know, its simply not a question any more, the best way to stop this in a quick manner and reduce the potential for more and more lethal variants from arising is to get v******ted. Anti-v**xers are stopping this from happening, so a*****xxers are stopping all the rest of us and our society in general from being able to get back to a "normal" life as quickly as we could. Due to this, the danger to those of us who have been v******ted and those who are not able to get v******ted (kids under 12) is increased because the a*****xxers are basically proliferating the v***s in our society by their actions (or rather inactions)! The continuing p******c is wrecking our medical systems and causing significant economic burdens on our society as a whole. So a*****xxers are increasing the risk for all and prolonging our recovery from this crap. So yeah, that pisses me off, and it pisses most of the country off right now! You do understand that your crowd is in the minority on this subject in this country, and by a lot!

From another standpoint, all you a*****xxers screaming about having your freedoms infringed upon by v*****e mandates, masks, social distancing and everything else, are hypocritical as hell! How about trying to see the other side.

The v****d view is that by refusing to do the right things by getting v******ted you are seriously infringing on the freedoms of others because your actions are prolonging this problem. You get sick and you pass it on to others and that could lead to their death and extreme future health issues or financial issues from a long hospital stay or getting longhaul C***d (which is pretty damned common) and being unable to work for months (I have one friend that has been suffering from this now for over 10 months). So yeah, you f**e freedom patriots are taking our freedoms away and putting others in your country, state and town at risk of being hospitalized or dying or carrying unwanted financial burden. So yeah, there are some damn good reasons why the v****d are all getting progressively more fed up with your bullsh!t!

How many more will die from C***d, or from not being able to get the care they need because the hospitals are full? How many people continue to put off medical procedures because of C***d, how long can they wait. The longer the a*****xxers continue to act like fools because of politics and conspiracy theories, the longer this C***d hell goes on. And yeah, at this point in time the reason it continues is because we still have so damned many people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies, think they are supporting their "tribe" by refusing to get v******ted, or are just plain scared because of all the misinformation people like you continue to spread.

Any more questions on why the V****d are ready to kick the Unv****d asses???????????

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Nov 1, 2021 07:11:04   #
Rose42
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this theory is? I mean really, the elite class of the entire world got together to develop and spread a new v***s to gain world control and reduce population. The leaders of the world can't get together to decide on whether to have tea or coffee for breakfast. How in the world would they come together for something this sinister???? All of these world leaders are doing what they can to get their people v******ted, and all went through shutdowns and some are still going through shutdowns. If they developed a distributed a v***s and are now doing all they can to stop it, WHY? That makes absolutely no sense and is beyond ridiculous.

If you want to understand why the "V****d" are getting more and more pissed off at the A*****xxers, it's not rocket science. Science and our last 18 months of history proves that the v*****es, while not perfect, work pretty damned good. The last three months the C***d cases in this country have been at their worse in many areas, including my home state of Idaho. Doctors, local news programs and the republican governor of this deep red state were pleading with people to get v******ted. We were at our highest case loads of the entire p******c here in Idaho in September. And 98% of the C***d patients in our overflowing hospitals and 100% of the body bags filling the local morgues and refrigerated trailers being used to house the overflow were unv******ted. We went to standards of care here in Idaho, basically doctors making decisions on who gets a bed based upon who seems to have the highest potential for survival. All BECAUSE of the unv******ted in our midst. How would you like to be in a car accident, arrive at the hospital, and wait for 6 hours to get an ICU room, if you are lucky, because even though the hospital has converted three complete floors to C***d wards and ICU units, there still is no room?

So we know, its simply not a question any more, the best way to stop this in a quick manner and reduce the potential for more and more lethal variants from arising is to get v******ted. Anti-v**xers are stopping this from happening, so a*****xxers are stopping all the rest of us and our society in general from being able to get back to a "normal" life as quickly as we could. Due to this, the danger to those of us who have been v******ted and those who are not able to get v******ted (kids under 12) is increased because the a*****xxers are basically proliferating the v***s in our society by their actions (or rather inactions)! The continuing p******c is wrecking our medical systems and causing significant economic burdens on our society as a whole. So a*****xxers are increasing the risk for all and prolonging our recovery from this crap. So yeah, that pisses me off, and it pisses most of the country off right now! You do understand that your crowd is in the minority on this subject in this country, and by a lot!

From another standpoint, all you a*****xxers screaming about having your freedoms infringed upon by v*****e mandates, masks, social distancing and everything else, are hypocritical as hell! How about trying to see the other side.

The v****d view is that by refusing to do the right things by getting v******ted you are seriously infringing on the freedoms of others because your actions are prolonging this problem. You get sick and you pass it on to others and that could lead to their death and extreme future health issues or financial issues from a long hospital stay or getting longhaul C***d (which is pretty damned common) and being unable to work for months (I have one friend that has been suffering from this now for over 10 months). So yeah, you f**e freedom patriots are taking our freedoms away and putting others in your country, state and town at risk of being hospitalized or dying or carrying unwanted financial burden. So yeah, there are some damn good reasons why the v****d are all getting progressively more fed up with your bullsh!t!

How many more will die from C***d, or from not being able to get the care they need because the hospitals are full? How many people continue to put off medical procedures because of C***d, how long can they wait. The longer the a*****xxers continue to act like fools because of politics and conspiracy theories, the longer this C***d hell goes on. And yeah, at this point in time the reason it continues is because we still have so damned many people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies, think they are supporting their "tribe" by refusing to get v******ted, or are just plain scared because of all the misinformation people like you continue to spread.

Any more questions on why the V****d are ready to kick the Unv****d asses???????????
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this th... (show quote)


You unwittingly spread misinformation. Your post is full of propaganda.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:19:40   #
tbutkovich
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this theory is? I mean really, the elite class of the entire world got together to develop and spread a new v***s to gain world control and reduce population. The leaders of the world can't get together to decide on whether to have tea or coffee for breakfast. How in the world would they come together for something this sinister???? All of these world leaders are doing what they can to get their people v******ted, and all went through shutdowns and some are still going through shutdowns. If they developed a distributed a v***s and are now doing all they can to stop it, WHY? That makes absolutely no sense and is beyond ridiculous.

If you want to understand why the "V****d" are getting more and more pissed off at the A*****xxers, it's not rocket science. Science and our last 18 months of history proves that the v*****es, while not perfect, work pretty damned good. The last three months the C***d cases in this country have been at their worse in many areas, including my home state of Idaho. Doctors, local news programs and the republican governor of this deep red state were pleading with people to get v******ted. We were at our highest case loads of the entire p******c here in Idaho in September. And 98% of the C***d patients in our overflowing hospitals and 100% of the body bags filling the local morgues and refrigerated trailers being used to house the overflow were unv******ted. We went to standards of care here in Idaho, basically doctors making decisions on who gets a bed based upon who seems to have the highest potential for survival. All BECAUSE of the unv******ted in our midst. How would you like to be in a car accident, arrive at the hospital, and wait for 6 hours to get an ICU room, if you are lucky, because even though the hospital has converted three complete floors to C***d wards and ICU units, there still is no room?

So we know, its simply not a question any more, the best way to stop this in a quick manner and reduce the potential for more and more lethal variants from arising is to get v******ted. Anti-v**xers are stopping this from happening, so a*****xxers are stopping all the rest of us and our society in general from being able to get back to a "normal" life as quickly as we could. Due to this, the danger to those of us who have been v******ted and those who are not able to get v******ted (kids under 12) is increased because the a*****xxers are basically proliferating the v***s in our society by their actions (or rather inactions)! The continuing p******c is wrecking our medical systems and causing significant economic burdens on our society as a whole. So a*****xxers are increasing the risk for all and prolonging our recovery from this crap. So yeah, that pisses me off, and it pisses most of the country off right now! You do understand that your crowd is in the minority on this subject in this country, and by a lot!

From another standpoint, all you a*****xxers screaming about having your freedoms infringed upon by v*****e mandates, masks, social distancing and everything else, are hypocritical as hell! How about trying to see the other side.

The v****d view is that by refusing to do the right things by getting v******ted you are seriously infringing on the freedoms of others because your actions are prolonging this problem. You get sick and you pass it on to others and that could lead to their death and extreme future health issues or financial issues from a long hospital stay or getting longhaul C***d (which is pretty damned common) and being unable to work for months (I have one friend that has been suffering from this now for over 10 months). So yeah, you f**e freedom patriots are taking our freedoms away and putting others in your country, state and town at risk of being hospitalized or dying or carrying unwanted financial burden. So yeah, there are some damn good reasons why the v****d are all getting progressively more fed up with your bullsh!t!

How many more will die from C***d, or from not being able to get the care they need because the hospitals are full? How many people continue to put off medical procedures because of C***d, how long can they wait. The longer the a*****xxers continue to act like fools because of politics and conspiracy theories, the longer this C***d hell goes on. And yeah, at this point in time the reason it continues is because we still have so damned many people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies, think they are supporting their "tribe" by refusing to get v******ted, or are just plain scared because of all the misinformation people like you continue to spread.

Any more questions on why the V****d are ready to kick the Unv****d asses???????????
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this th... (show quote)


Or you could do as I did. I did not get the VAX but just took Vitamin D3, Zinc and Vitamin C.

And if I did get C***D, I have good treatments available to arrest it like Aviptadil, ivermectin, and hydroxochloroquine.

If your Idaho doctors spent more time researching the science and implementing preventatives and using viable treatments, C***D would not have experienced the case load you described in your post.

Had your MSM told you the t***h about preventatives and treatments, the situation in your state would have been much different. They too jumped on the VAX bandwagon!

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Nov 1, 2021 07:28:20   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Rose42 wrote:
You unwittingly spread misinformation. Your post is full of propaganda.


Prove it or shut up. I can give you dozens of reliable scientific sources and thousands of pages that support every thing I said, and I think I should understand why my side is sick and tired of a*****xxers, I have to continue to live with you jerks.

You do know that Trump was the guy in charge when these v*****es were being developed, right. So I guess he must have been part of the world cartel of elites involved with this BS theory too huh? You know he also got v******ted, as did every one of those politicians in Washington that are now trying to disparage v*****es. Oh yeah, all those governors of places like Texas, Florida, Georgia, and any other state you can think of, they all got v******ted and most have already gotten a booster shot. Are they all involved in this world game to control the earth and do mass depopulation? Ridiculous. Get a brain.

Go ahead, show me your proof of my "misinformation" and I'll tear it to shreds in a heartbeat and have fun doing it.

I challenge you Rosey, lets see if you have the guts to show your ignorance to all on here!

And don't try to tell me about how informed you are because two of your family members died but were v******ted. Or was it only one, you seem to have gotten confused with your story on various posts here recently. I would like to hear the rest of the story. Age, other heath issues, because you see, I know that VERY FEW v******ted people have died from c***d. If you have two member in your family, you may have some underlying genetic issues that make your risk much higher than most. But I also think you are probably v******ted. So why come on here and try to lead others down the wrong path when you know that is what you are doing?????

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Nov 1, 2021 07:36:02   #
skyrider
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this theory is? I mean really, the elite class of the entire world got together to develop and spread a new v***s to gain world control and reduce population. The leaders of the world can't get together to decide on whether to have tea or coffee for breakfast. How in the world would they come together for something this sinister???? All of these world leaders are doing what they can to get their people v******ted, and all went through shutdowns and some are still going through shutdowns. If they developed a distributed a v***s and are now doing all they can to stop it, WHY? That makes absolutely no sense and is beyond ridiculous.

If you want to understand why the "V****d" are getting more and more pissed off at the A*****xxers, it's not rocket science. Science and our last 18 months of history proves that the v*****es, while not perfect, work pretty damned good. The last three months the C***d cases in this country have been at their worse in many areas, including my home state of Idaho. Doctors, local news programs and the republican governor of this deep red state were pleading with people to get v******ted. We were at our highest case loads of the entire p******c here in Idaho in September. And 98% of the C***d patients in our overflowing hospitals and 100% of the body bags filling the local morgues and refrigerated trailers being used to house the overflow were unv******ted. We went to standards of care here in Idaho, basically doctors making decisions on who gets a bed based upon who seems to have the highest potential for survival. All BECAUSE of the unv******ted in our midst. How would you like to be in a car accident, arrive at the hospital, and wait for 6 hours to get an ICU room, if you are lucky, because even though the hospital has converted three complete floors to C***d wards and ICU units, there still is no room?

So we know, its simply not a question any more, the best way to stop this in a quick manner and reduce the potential for more and more lethal variants from arising is to get v******ted. Anti-v**xers are stopping this from happening, so a*****xxers are stopping all the rest of us and our society in general from being able to get back to a "normal" life as quickly as we could. Due to this, the danger to those of us who have been v******ted and those who are not able to get v******ted (kids under 12) is increased because the a*****xxers are basically proliferating the v***s in our society by their actions (or rather inactions)! The continuing p******c is wrecking our medical systems and causing significant economic burdens on our society as a whole. So a*****xxers are increasing the risk for all and prolonging our recovery from this crap. So yeah, that pisses me off, and it pisses most of the country off right now! You do understand that your crowd is in the minority on this subject in this country, and by a lot!

From another standpoint, all you a*****xxers screaming about having your freedoms infringed upon by v*****e mandates, masks, social distancing and everything else, are hypocritical as hell! How about trying to see the other side.

The v****d view is that by refusing to do the right things by getting v******ted you are seriously infringing on the freedoms of others because your actions are prolonging this problem. You get sick and you pass it on to others and that could lead to their death and extreme future health issues or financial issues from a long hospital stay or getting longhaul C***d (which is pretty damned common) and being unable to work for months (I have one friend that has been suffering from this now for over 10 months). So yeah, you f**e freedom patriots are taking our freedoms away and putting others in your country, state and town at risk of being hospitalized or dying or carrying unwanted financial burden. So yeah, there are some damn good reasons why the v****d are all getting progressively more fed up with your bullsh!t!

How many more will die from C***d, or from not being able to get the care they need because the hospitals are full? How many people continue to put off medical procedures because of C***d, how long can they wait. The longer the a*****xxers continue to act like fools because of politics and conspiracy theories, the longer this C***d hell goes on. And yeah, at this point in time the reason it continues is because we still have so damned many people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies, think they are supporting their "tribe" by refusing to get v******ted, or are just plain scared because of all the misinformation people like you continue to spread.

Any more questions on why the V****d are ready to kick the Unv****d asses???????????
Oh come on now, can't you see how ignorant this th... (show quote)


The most blatant exhibition of the results of mind control yet seen on this site. The reason that the country is in a death spiral could not be more clear. Delusional thinking at it's best.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:40:55   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Or you could do as I did. I did not get the VAX but just took Vitamin D3, Zinc and Vitamin C.

And if I did get C***D, I have good treatments available to arrest it like Aviptadil, ivermectin, and hydroxochloroquine.

If your Idaho doctors spent more time researching the science and implementing preventatives and using viable treatments, C***D would not have experienced the case load you described in your post.

Had your MSM told you the t***h about preventatives and treatments, the situation in your state would have been much different. They too jumped on the VAX bandwagon!
Or you could do as I did. I did not get the VAX b... (show quote)


Oh god! Not again. Yep, there are some treatments out there that are showing positive effects and more being found all the time, but none of them take the place of a v*****e to stop this thing, and none of the ones you list are even effective enough to bother with or are still undergoing early research (although I like what I am seeing in the Aviptadil trials). Monoclonal Antibodies should be your first choice should you get sick, but you need to take them early to be effective (that is what saved Trump's ass, not Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine which are minimally effective if at all). By the way, what is "hydroxochloroquine"?

Do us all a favor, find a friend that is sick and then go spend the day with them, get a good dose of C***d yourself, then use all the Aviptadil (if you can even get it), ivermectin, and hydroxychloroquine you want and come back and report how it goes.

Good luck on your personal testing.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:42:47   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
skyrider wrote:
The most blatant exhibition of the results of mind control yet seen on this site. The reason that the country is in a death spiral could not be more clear. Delusional thinking at it's best.


I can't help you if your IQ resists understanding simple facts and reasoning. Go spend some time in a library, maybe some intelligence will wear off on you.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:44:35   #
skyrider
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Prove it or shut up. I can give you dozens of reliable scientific sources and thousands of pages that support every thing I said, and I think I should understand why my side is sick and tired of a*****xxers, I have to continue to live with you jerks.

You do know that Trump was the guy in charge when these v*****es were being developed, right. So I guess he must have been part of the world cartel of elites involved with this BS theory too huh? You know he also got v******ted, as did every one of those politicians in Washington that are now trying to disparage v*****es. Oh yeah, all those governors of places like Texas, Florida, Georgia, and any other state you can think of, they all got v******ted and most have already gotten a booster shot. Are they all involved in this world game to control the earth and do mass depopulation? Ridiculous. Get a brain.

Go ahead, show me your proof of my "misinformation" and I'll tear it to shreds in a heartbeat and have fun doing it.

I challenge you Rosey, lets see if you have the guts to show your ignorance to all on here!

And don't try to tell me about how informed you are because two of your family members died but were v******ted. Or was it only one, you seem to have gotten confused with your story on various posts here recently. I would like to hear the rest of the story. Age, other heath issues, because you see, I know that VERY FEW v******ted people have died from c***d. If you have two member in your family, you may have some underlying genetic issues that make your risk much higher than most. But I also think you are probably v******ted. So why come on here and try to lead others down the wrong path when you know that is what you are doing?????
Prove it or shut up. I can give you dozens of rel... (show quote)


And a "triggered" little snot as well. Fact: A coerced, brow beaten, indoctrinated, delusional or bought Lefty will
always expose himself for what he is.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:49:41   #
skyrider
 
Rose42 wrote:
You unwittingly spread misinformation. Your post is full of propaganda.


Where the hell did this one come from , Rose.? This so called firefighter has all the other delusional's put together ,
beat.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:49:51   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
skyrider wrote:
And a "triggered" little snot as well. Fact: A coerced, brow beaten, indoctrinated, delusional or bought Lefty will
always expose himself for what he is.


Like I care for your ignorant ramblings. You have already proven your level of intelligence simply by the side you take in this discussion. You don't mean sh!t to me and are not worth my time. I don't care to change your mind, I WANT all of you a*****xxers to get C***d by the end of the year so we can get back to normal. So please, go and visit your sick aunt and do your civic duty. Be sure to come back and tell us all how fun it was!

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Nov 1, 2021 07:50:49   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
skyrider wrote:
Where the hell did this one come from , Rose.? This so called firefighter has all the other delusional's put together ,
beat.


I was here way before you little one.

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Nov 1, 2021 07:56:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Rose42 wrote:
What a malevolent creature you are.

And more fully v****d are dying of c***d you just don’t hear about it in the media. One of my relatives did and another is very ill in the hospital.


Did you have an opportunity to read this one?

Ireland, the most v******ted nation in the European Union with a 91% v******tion rate, now has the highest number of c***d patients in hospitals in seven months…

https://www.newsbreakapp
.com/n/0chxIlhq?pd=08VmvHiP&lang=en_US&s=i4

Or wait is it this instead??
So the more we v******te the higher the numbers go??? I thought it was to reduce them?? Help stop the spread etc, lesson the severity snd all that BS..😳 now they are dying??

Data from several states and the federal government suggests deaths among Americans fully v******ted against C****-** rose sharply amid the nation’s most recent surge of infections, but experts say that is not unexpected as more of the population gets immunized. WTH??


Between Oct. 11 and Oct. 18, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s cumulative count for breakthrough deaths jumped by 51% from 7,178 to 10,857. Some conservatives and v*****e skeptics have pointed to the seemingly drastic increase to bolster arguments against mandatory immunization policies.

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0cfNUfqO?pd=08VmvHiP&lang=en_US&s=i4

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