Karma Comes Calling (Page 2): Guess u don't believe in a higher power. It is KARMA no matter what u say.

Antimarxist21

PeterS wrote:

How so? You do know what the meaning of Karma is don't you? It was Halyna Hutchins who was k**led. Her karma has nothing to do with that of Alex Baldwins or is that too hard for you to grasp. Baldwin was told the gun was "cold" when indeed it was loaded with hot rounds. That someone lost their life as the result equates to a tragedy all the way around...

Guess u don't believe in a higher power. It is KARMA no matter what u say.

Mikeyavelli

Wolf counselor wrote:

The rest of his life is in the crapper.

He will never have another decent night's sleep for as long as he lives.

Doubt it, Bolshevik Baldwin is arrogant enough to put a notch on that gun.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

AuntiE wrote:

First rule for handling a gun; never take someone else’s word. Always check the gun yourself.

Having said that, someone like Alec Baldwin should not be allowed near any gun, real or prop. His temperament makes him a danger.

That's the bottom line is all this!

Mikeyavelli

Ginny_Dandy wrote:

That's the bottom line is all this!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Right on, Mikeyavelli !!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

AuntiE wrote:

First rule for handling a gun; never take someone else’s word. Always check the gun yourself.

Having said that, someone like Alec Baldwin should not be allowed near any gun, real or prop. His temperament makes him a danger.

Ginny_Dandy wrote:

That's the bottom line is all this!

It looks like the assistant director, David Halls, may be the culprit.

Crew members describe unsafe conditions on previous set before "Rust' assistant director was fired

From CNN’s Julia Vargas Jones

Three crew members who worked alongside “Rust” assistant director David Halls on another movie where a gun “unexpectedly discharged” in 2019 detailed to CNN what they called unsafe conditions before Halls was fired from the project.

The three crew members recalled details of an incident during the filming of “Freedom’s Path” where an 1800’s-style muzzle-loading rifle unexpectedly fired during a scene, resulting in a boom operator suffering inner ear injuries due to the sound of the explosion.

The crew members, who did not wish to be identified for fear of industry reprisal, said they were concerned for the safety of crew and cast members on set even before the gun misfire.

All three said the production did not hold regular safety meetings, contrary to typical industry practice.

“He was a person with enough red f**gs that his career should have been done with already. Yet he was still out there, putting crew into outrageous situations. It’s tough to think that Halyna could have just as well been one of our crews,” one of them said. “It was just too close for comfort.”

Rocket Soul said in a statement it “cannot comment on any conversations that may or may not have taken place individually between Dave Halls and crew members.” CNN has asked the company about the crew members' statements regarding regular safety meetings.

Halls, as well as Rockhill Studios, another production company for “Freedom’s Path,” did not respond to CNN requests for comment.

According to the three crew members, an armorer was not on set at the time of the 2019 incident, a break from protocol; instead, a background actor in the production was put in charge of handling the firearm for the scene, the crew members said.

In a statement to CNN, Rocket Soul Studios denied that a background actor was hired as an armorer, saying that an armorer was to be on set in every instance a gun was present.

The company said Halls was removed from the set and fired from the production.

“Halls was removed from set immediately after the prop gun discharged. Production did not resume filming until Dave was off site. An incident report was taken and filed at that time,” it said.

“Upon wrapping production for the day, Dave Halls was officially terminated and given the specific reasons for his termination,” The company continued. “Dave was very remorseful for the events, and understood the reasons he was being terminated. A new assistant director as well as a new armorer were hired for the duration of principal photography.”

In the moments before the accidental discharge, one crew member said the gun was announced as a “no fire” or “cold weapon” for the scene. A second crew member said they asked multiple times if the gun was cleared for use in the shot, and did not receive a clear answer.

The two crew members said some rifles used in the making of the movie had been packed with gunpowder but did not contain projectiles. The rifle that misfired was not supposed to be loaded at all, the two crew members said.

The accidental discharge disoriented a boom microphone operator, who suffered injuries to their inner ear and required medical attention after experiencing hearing loss and balance issues, according to the crew members.

When reached by phone Sunday, the boom operator acknowledged the incident but did not comment further on the matter.

The film, “Freedom’s Path” is set to release in 2022, according to the Rocket Soul website.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Blade_Runner wrote:

It looks like the assistant director, David Halls, may be the culprit.

Crew members describe unsafe conditions on previous set before "Rust' assistant director was fired

From CNN’s Julia Vargas Jones

Three crew members who worked alongside “Rust” assistant director David Halls on another movie where a gun “unexpectedly discharged” in 2019 detailed to CNN what they called unsafe conditions before Halls was fired from the project.

The three crew members recalled details of an incident during the filming of “Freedom’s Path” where an 1800’s-style muzzle-loading rifle unexpectedly fired during a scene, resulting in a boom operator suffering inner ear injuries due to the sound of the explosion.

The crew members, who did not wish to be identified for fear of industry reprisal, said they were concerned for the safety of crew and cast members on set even before the gun misfire.

All three said the production did not hold regular safety meetings, contrary to typical industry practice.

“He was a person with enough red f**gs that his career should have been done with already. Yet he was still out there, putting crew into outrageous situations. It’s tough to think that Halyna could have just as well been one of our crews,” one of them said. “It was just too close for comfort.”

Rocket Soul said in a statement it “cannot comment on any conversations that may or may not have taken place individually between Dave Halls and crew members.” CNN has asked the company about the crew members' statements regarding regular safety meetings.

Halls, as well as Rockhill Studios, another production company for “Freedom’s Path,” did not respond to CNN requests for comment.

According to the three crew members, an armorer was not on set at the time of the 2019 incident, a break from protocol; instead, a background actor in the production was put in charge of handling the firearm for the scene, the crew members said.

In a statement to CNN, Rocket Soul Studios denied that a background actor was hired as an armorer, saying that an armorer was to be on set in every instance a gun was present.

The company said Halls was removed from the set and fired from the production.

“Halls was removed from set immediately after the prop gun discharged. Production did not resume filming until Dave was off site. An incident report was taken and filed at that time,” it said.

“Upon wrapping production for the day, Dave Halls was officially terminated and given the specific reasons for his termination,” The company continued. “Dave was very remorseful for the events, and understood the reasons he was being terminated. A new assistant director as well as a new armorer were hired for the duration of principal photography.”

In the moments before the accidental discharge, one crew member said the gun was announced as a “no fire” or “cold weapon” for the scene. A second crew member said they asked multiple times if the gun was cleared for use in the shot, and did not receive a clear answer.

The two crew members said some rifles used in the making of the movie had been packed with gunpowder but did not contain projectiles. The rifle that misfired was not supposed to be loaded at all, the two crew members said.

The accidental discharge disoriented a boom microphone operator, who suffered injuries to their inner ear and required medical attention after experiencing hearing loss and balance issues, according to the crew members.

When reached by phone Sunday, the boom operator acknowledged the incident but did not comment further on the matter.

The film, “Freedom’s Path” is set to release in 2022, according to the Rocket Soul website.

It looks like the assistant director, David Halls,... (show quote)

I would take CNN's report with a grain of salt.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Ginny_Dandy wrote:

I would take CNN's report with a grain of salt.

CNN isn't the only one with the story. I just grabbed that one. In any case, the CNN report does provide direct quotes by professionals and documented references to David Hall's history as an assistant director.

Alec Baldwin Fatal Shooting Film’s First AD Was “Fired” From 2019 Movie Over Gun Going Off, ‘Freedom’s Path’ Producer Confirms

‘Rust’ assistant director was fired from past gig over another ‘unexpected’ gun discharge

‘Rust’: Released Affidavit Reveals More Details About Fatal Shooting Accident – Read It
Includes detective interviews with Joel Souza, the wounded director, and Reid Russel, an assistant cameraman who was standing next to Joel and Halanya at the time of the incident.

Reid said while he was working with the camera in the setting for the movie, he had stepped out for about 5 minutes after returning from lunch. He said when he had returned back into the setting for the scene, Alec, Joel, and Halayna were already in possession of the firearm and had been preparing for the scene. He was not sure if the firearm had been checked due to his absence of the five minutes.

Reid went on to say, that while setting up his camera, there was no video or audio being filmed as it was just pr********n of the scene and setting. Reid said while preparing, there was a shadow coming from the outside light and they had to move the camera at a different angle from Alec. He said Alec was trying to explain how he was going to draw out the firearm and where his arm would be at when the firearm was pulled from the holster.

Reid was not sure why the firearm was discharged and just remembered the loud bang from the firearm.

Reid said after the firearm was discharged, he remembered Joel having blood on his person, and Hayalna speaking and saying she couldn’t feel her legs. Reid stated once Hayalana was on the ground, medics began to treat her injury as she was bleeding while on the floor of the building they were in.

Reid was asked about the behavior of the people involved in the setting of the scene. He said everyone seemed to be getting along.

He was asked about Alec and the firearm and how he handled the firearm. Reid said Alec had been very careful, and brought up an instance when a scene was being filmed earlier. Reid said Alec had made sure it was safe and that a child wasn’t near him when they were discharging a firearm during that scene.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Blade_Runner wrote:

CNN isn't the only one with the story. I just grabbed that one. In any case, the CNN report does provide direct quotes by professionals and documented references to David Hall's history as an assistant director.

Alec Baldwin Fatal Shooting Film’s First AD Was “Fired” From 2019 Movie Over Gun Going Off, ‘Freedom’s Path’ Producer Confirms

‘Rust’ assistant director was fired from past gig over another ‘unexpected’ gun discharge

‘Rust’: Released Affidavit Reveals More Details About Fatal Shooting Accident – Read It
Includes detective interviews with Joel Souza, the wounded director, and Reid Russel, an assistant cameraman who was standing next to Joel and Halanya at the time of the incident.

Reid said while he was working with the camera in the setting for the movie, he had stepped out for about 5 minutes after returning from lunch. He said when he had returned back into the setting for the scene, Alec, Joel, and Halayna were already in possession of the firearm and had been preparing for the scene. He was not sure if the firearm had been checked due to his absence of the five minutes.

Reid went on to say, that while setting up his camera, there was no video or audio being filmed as it was just pr********n of the scene and setting. Reid said while preparing, there was a shadow coming from the outside light and they had to move the camera at a different angle from Alec. He said Alec was trying to explain how he was going to draw out the firearm and where his arm would be at when the firearm was pulled from the holster.

Reid was not sure why the firearm was discharged and just remembered the loud bang from the firearm.

Reid said after the firearm was discharged, he remembered Joel having blood on his person, and Hayalna speaking and saying she couldn’t feel her legs. Reid stated once Hayalana was on the ground, medics began to treat her injury as she was bleeding while on the floor of the building they were in.

Reid was asked about the behavior of the people involved in the setting of the scene. He said everyone seemed to be getting along.

He was asked about Alec and the firearm and how he handled the firearm. Reid said Alec had been very careful, and brought up an instance when a scene was being filmed earlier. Reid said Alec had made sure it was safe and that a child wasn’t near him when they were discharging a firearm during that scene.

CNN isn't the only one with the story. I just grab... (show quote)

https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/25/fatal-shooting-cinematographer-struck-chest-rust-alec-baldwin-gun/

Steve Wolf, a special effects coordinator and theatrical firearms safety expert, told CNN there were 3 errors committed that resulted in the tragedy -- using a real gun rather than a prop gun, having a live round in the gun and having people stand behind the camera in the "line of fire." He also said the assistant director should not have been the one to clear the gun before the incident ... that should have been the armorist's job.

Souza told authorities ... there should never have been live rounds near or around the scene that's being rehearsed or shot.

Authorities have obtained a search warrant to seize all camera footage and any other computer data that may have recorded the fatal incident.

Watch the video

Mikeyavelli

Ginny_Dandy wrote:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/25/fatal-shooting-cine... (show quote)

Geez, then they might find out who pulled the trigger.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Ginny_Dandy wrote:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/25/fatal-shooting-cine... (show quote)

This is nothing new to me.

Hanna Gutierrez, the armorer, put three guns on a cart. Obviously, she did not check them thoroughly. She is inexperienced and was quite nervous about her responsibilities.

The scene was a rehearsal in which the guns were not supposed be loaded even with blanks - a "Cold Gun".
IOW, when Baldwin was given the pistol, he was to rehearse a cross draw while sitting on a church bench and aim toward the camera for a f**e shot.

When David Halls picked it up the pistol, he did not check to insure the pistol was not loaded. This was not just a brain fart, it follows a pattern of his past performances as an assistant director.

Whether the pistol was a prop gun or a real gun is irrelevant, it wasn't supposed to be loaded with any ammo.

Somebody really fkd up, and it wasn't Alec Baldwin.

Mikeyavelli

Blade_Runner wrote:

This is nothing new to me. br br Hanna Gutierrez,... (show quote)

Nah, not Bolshevik Baldwin, he just aimed and pulled the trigger. Had nothing to do with it.
In fact, your boy Biden is considering Bolshevik Baldwin as his new running mate.
Sniffo and The Snuffer in 24!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Mikeyavelli wrote:

Geez, then they might find out who pulled the trigger.

They know who pulled the trigger, but what I want to know is how the loaded gun got there in the first place?

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Blade_Runner wrote:

This is nothing new to me. br br Hanna Gutierrez,... (show quote)

I'm quite familiar with revolvers, so it seems to me that Baldwin could've easily have spun the chamber to make sure it was unloaded. Why was a loaded gun on the set in the first place?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Mikeyavelli wrote:

Nah, not Bolshevik Baldwin, he just aimed and pulled the trigger. Had nothing to do with it.
In fact, your boy Biden is considering Bolshevik Baldwin as his new running mate.
Sniffo and The Snuffer in 24!

My boy Biden?
What the hell does that demented POS have to do with any of this?
What are you, some kind of freaking circus clown?