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Oct 28, 2021 00:37:55   #
elledee
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
Biden's a good man for the job. He's got lots of relevant experience, lots of longstanding good connections and relationships, a good character, a steady temperament, and a lot of respect going both ways: from him to others, and from others* to him.

* (not counting many disrespectful Trump supporters -- but that's their problem, not Biden's).

A good man for what job....... he's been a total failure his entire political hack life

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Oct 28, 2021 07:17:40   #
American Vet
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
Biden's a good man for the job. He's got lots of relevant experience, lots of longstanding good connections and relationships, a good character, a steady temperament, and a lot of respect going both ways: from him to others, and from others* to him.

* (not counting many disrespectful Trump supporters -- but that's their problem, not Biden's).


"A good man for the job?"

Afghanistan debacle

southern border crisis

Rampant inflation

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"



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Oct 28, 2021 17:24:20   #
RobertX8Y
 
Michael Rich wrote:
Biden is America's problem. And you l*****t progressive non-thinking democrats won't actually look at Biden's "do nothing career"..

Name some of Biden's great accomplishments while living on the peoples money as Senator.


You write "Name some of Biden's ... accomplishments ... as Senator." There's this: "In his 6 terms as a senator, Joe Biden sponsored or co-sponsored 348 pieces of legislation that became law." (reference: https://markcz.com/joe-biden-accomplishments/ ) That's something you'd want a Senator to do, right? You write: "... while living on the peoples [sic] money...". So, was he doing the job or not?

"1990s: Authored every major piece of crime legislation this decade, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994." [Ibid.]

"1994: Spearheaded the Violence Against Women Act, criminalizing violence against women and creating unprecedented resources for survivors of assault, which was followed by a 64% drop in domestic violence from 1993 to 2010." [Ibid.]

"1998: Led the Senate to approve NATO enlargement and passage of bills to streamline foreign affairs agencies and punish religious persecution overseas." [Ibid.].

And so on. [Ibid.]

Also:

"Biden sponsored one of the first c*****e c****e bills in the Senate in 1986 and went on to propose curbing greenhouse gas emissions in 2007.

"In 2008, he successfully passed the PROTECT Our Children Act, which was aimed at addressing the online exploitation of children."

(And so on.)

[ref: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278 ]

What did Donald Trump accomplish during the time Biden was Senator?

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Oct 28, 2021 17:48:26   #
RobertX8Y
 
American Vet wrote:

[...]
Creating "climate crisis"


"C*****e C****e

"cosponsored proposed legislation to curb greenhouse gas emissions in 2007
called for American participation in UN climate negotiations in 2005
introduced one of the Senate’s first c*****e c****e bills, in 1986, leading to the creation of a task force on g****l w*****g
utilized his experience working across the aisle to establish a pragmatic plan to cut carbon emissions and secure a sustainable future
oversaw dispersement of $90 billion for clean energy as part of the 2009 Recovery Act. solar power increased 20x between the years 2008 and 2016"

Ref: https://www.miamidadedems.org/joe-biden-accomplishments-list

What did Donald Trump do regarding the climate during that time, or during any time?

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Oct 28, 2021 18:00:46   #
American Vet
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
"C*****e C****e

"cosponsored proposed legislation to curb greenhouse gas emissions in 2007
called for American participation in UN climate negotiations in 2005
introduced one of the Senate’s first c*****e c****e bills, in 1986, leading to the creation of a task force on g****l w*****g
utilized his experience working across the aisle to establish a pragmatic plan to cut carbon emissions and secure a sustainable future
oversaw dispersement of $90 billion for clean energy as part of the 2009 Recovery Act. solar power increased 20x between the years 2008 and 2016"

Ref: https://www.miamidadedems.org/joe-biden-accomplishments-list

What did Donald Trump do regarding the climate during that time, or during any time?
"C*****e C****e br br "cosponsored prop... (show quote)


It is the terrible things he has done as President that I noted. I made no comment about what he did as a Senator.

Afghanistan debacle

southern border crisis

Rampant inflation

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"

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Oct 28, 2021 18:14:13   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
American Vet wrote:
It is the terrible things he has done as President that I noted. I made no comment about what he did as a Senator.

Afghanistan debacle

southern border crisis

Rampant inflation

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"


Those are all fine accomplishments for a president.πŸ˜‰

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Oct 28, 2021 20:46:41   #
RobertX8Y
 
American Vet wrote:
It is the terrible things he has done as President that I noted. I made no comment about what he did as a Senator.

Afghanistan debacle

southern border crisis

Rampant inflation

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"


You wrote "... as President..." and "Creating 'climate crisis'".

_President_ Biden rejoined the Paris agreement on climate. It was the right thing to do. Trump had pulled us out of it. If Trump had gotten a second term all we'd get, regarding climate, would be support for extracting and burning more coal, and a lot of ignorance, snarkiness, and misinformation, as in his first term. No one person "creates" the "climate crisis", but Donald Trump did about as much as we could expect any one person to do, to make it worse.

The situation is almost the same, regarding C****-**. Trump may have helped some by being a cheerleader and nagger for v*****e development, when he wasn't busy spreading the v***s around, setting a really bad example about precautions in a p******c, failing to lead in civic duty in a p******c, et cetera. Biden sets a good example regarding precautions in a p******c, and makes a big, coordinated effort, with a team, to manage the response to the p******c.

Biden is tough. Given Trump, we needed Biden very much, to run against Trump. Biden (both as President and before) is steady. He does what he can with the resources at his disposal. Biden coordinates well with reality, partly because he has a good character, but probably mainly because he coordinates with people who know what they're doing and also have good characters.

A lot of Republicans are doing what they can to thwart wh**ever Biden does, and Biden's political party only has 50 out of 100 senators, so it's a really difficult job, but he does as well as we could reasonably expect a President to do in the circumstances.

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Oct 28, 2021 21:26:31   #
martsiva
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
Biden's a good man for the job. He's got lots of relevant experience, lots of longstanding good connections and relationships, a good character, a steady temperament, and a lot of respect going both ways: from him to others, and from others* to him.

* (not counting many disrespectful Trump supporters -- but that's their problem, not Biden's).


Yeah - he`s really done a great job with everything going through the roof in price!! He`s done a great job creating the border crisis and allowing i******s to cross the border!! Why don`t you ask 1000s the Americans whose jobs in the oil industry Biden destroyed right along with our energy independence!! Ask the Americans he left behind in Afghanistan! And these are just for starters!! Do you really think that freedom loving Americans have respect for this clown when they shout f$%k Biden??

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Oct 28, 2021 22:23:43   #
American Vet
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
You wrote "... as President..." and "Creating 'climate crisis'".

_President_ Biden rejoined the Paris agreement on climate. It was the right thing to do. Trump had pulled us out of it. If Trump had gotten a second term all we'd get, regarding climate, would be support for extracting and burning more coal, and a lot of ignorance, snarkiness, and misinformation, as in his first term. No one person "creates" the "climate crisis", but Donald Trump did about as much as we could expect any one person to do, to make it worse.

The situation is almost the same, regarding C****-**. Trump may have helped some by being a cheerleader and nagger for v*****e development, when he wasn't busy spreading the v***s around, setting a really bad example about precautions in a p******c, failing to lead in civic duty in a p******c, et cetera. Biden sets a good example regarding precautions in a p******c, and makes a big, coordinated effort, with a team, to manage the response to the p******c.

Biden is tough. Given Trump, we needed Biden very much, to run against Trump. Biden (both as President and before) is steady. He does what he can with the resources at his disposal. Biden coordinates well with reality, partly because he has a good character, but probably mainly because he coordinates with people who know what they're doing and also have good characters.

A lot of Republicans are doing what they can to thwart wh**ever Biden does, and Biden's political party only has 50 out of 100 senators, so it's a really difficult job, but he does as well as we could reasonably expect a President to do in the circumstances.
You wrote "... as President..." and &quo... (show quote)


ROTFLMAO

"because he has a good character" as in sexual assault accusations and his habitual sniffing little girls hair? Or some questionable 'interactions' with the Chinese?

The circumstances seem to point to dementia.

But you go right ahead and defend him.

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Oct 28, 2021 22:24:23   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
You write "Name some of Biden's ... accomplishments ... as Senator." There's this: "In his 6 terms as a senator, Joe Biden sponsored or co-sponsored 348 pieces of legislation that became law." (reference: https://markcz.com/joe-biden-accomplishments/ ) That's something you'd want a Senator to do, right? You write: "... while living on the peoples [sic] money...". So, was he doing the job or not?

"1990s: Authored every major piece of crime legislation this decade, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994." [Ibid.]

"1994: Spearheaded the Violence Against Women Act, criminalizing violence against women and creating unprecedented resources for survivors of assault, which was followed by a 64% drop in domestic violence from 1993 to 2010." [Ibid.]

"1998: Led the Senate to approve NATO enlargement and passage of bills to streamline foreign affairs agencies and punish religious persecution overseas." [Ibid.].

And so on. [Ibid.]

Also:

"Biden sponsored one of the first c*****e c****e bills in the Senate in 1986 and went on to propose curbing greenhouse gas emissions in 2007.

"In 2008, he successfully passed the PROTECT Our Children Act, which was aimed at addressing the online exploitation of children."

(And so on.)

[ref: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278 ]

What did Donald Trump accomplish during the time Biden was Senator?
You write "Name some of Biden's ... accomplis... (show quote)



I stick by my claim, bumbling Biden hasn't done anything that stands out in his whole pathetic career.

Trump is for saving the Republic

You and Biden want to lower the standard of living to some third world democracy.

Biden is good at international extortion.

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Oct 29, 2021 00:22:41   #
RobertX8Y
 
martsiva wrote:
Yeah - he`s really done a great job with everything going through the roof in price!! He`s done a great job creating the border crisis and allowing i******s to cross the border!! Why don`t you ask 1000s the Americans whose jobs in the oil industry Biden destroyed right along with our energy independence!! Ask the Americans he left behind in Afghanistan! And these are just for starters!! Do you really think that freedom loving Americans have respect for this clown when they shout f$%k Biden??


"price" -- Yes it is expensive. So? It's a matter of priorities. Republicans usually want to reduce taxes a little bit for everybody and keep them really, really low for wealthy people and corporations. Every time Republicans cut taxes, that makes a deficit and then the next Democratic administration inherits the associated national debt. _That's_ expensive.

If something's necessary then it may be worth a high price to pay for it.

Note that there's a big difference between a trillion dollars spread out over 10 years and a trillion dollars spent all at once.

"I******s" crossing the border is almost no problem at all. Yes, there is something illegal about some entrances and some stays. I'm not much concerned about it. I believe that, currently, most i*****l i*******ts do more good than harm. The very vegetables I eat may have been picked by some of them, and I don't want to do that field work myself. We have plenty of more significant "problems" to think about. I'm pretty sure that Western European immigrants from 1492 to about 1800 or 1900 did more harm than good, but the i*****l i*******ts now do more good than harm.

"jobs", "oil", and "energy": All that is only good when it benefits people more than harms people. Pollution's a really important problem. And: People can do more than just one kind of job. For example back in the beginning of the p******c the government should have created a whole lot of government jobs to make and distribute medical equipment such as masks, which were in short supply at hospitals for a very long time. It would have been worth the cost to pay those people in those jobs. It would have made people healthier, not sicker. We also needed lots of contact tracing and testing, and there should have been a lot of jobs created to do those things. It would have helped millions of people be healthier and would have helped preserve much of the rest of the economy too, because with contact tracing and testing there wouldn't have been so much rapid spread of the v***s so there wouldn't have had to be so many closings and slowdowns of businesses. And it would have been worth the cost.

As those things weren't done soon, now they will be done later, and it will cost more. It would have cost less if it had been started vigorously at the start of the p******c.

"Afghanistan": I guess that it was wrong to publicly announce any timetable for withdrawal. I think that was a mistake. More generally though, the U.S. presence in Afghanistan was going to be a disaster almost from the beginning. I don't think Trump did much better with it -- what did he do, promise to withdraw? Then Biden actually did it, and of course we see how difficult it is to actually do it. And, I agree with you about people (not just Americans -- I'm thinking more of Afghans who helped Americans) being "left behind" in Afghanistan -- that truly is an awful situation, and I think the withdrawal could have been done better, without publicly announcing any timetable for withdrawal, but instead just getting people out gradually in the best order that could be planned. Again, Biden bit the bullet and actually commenced a withdrawal, whereas Trump talked about it, and talking's easier than doing.

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Oct 29, 2021 00:39:23   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
You wrote "... as President..." and "Creating 'climate crisis'".

_President_ Biden rejoined the Paris agreement on climate. It was the right thing to do. Trump had pulled us out of it. If Trump had gotten a second term all we'd get, regarding climate, would be support for extracting and burning more coal, and a lot of ignorance, snarkiness, and misinformation, as in his first term. No one person "creates" the "climate crisis", but Donald Trump did about as much as we could expect any one person to do, to make it worse.

The situation is almost the same, regarding C****-**. Trump may have helped some by being a cheerleader and nagger for v*****e development, when he wasn't busy spreading the v***s around, setting a really bad example about precautions in a p******c, failing to lead in civic duty in a p******c, et cetera. Biden sets a good example regarding precautions in a p******c, and makes a big, coordinated effort, with a team, to manage the response to the p******c.

Biden is tough. Given Trump, we needed Biden very much, to run against Trump. Biden (both as President and before) is steady. He does what he can with the resources at his disposal. Biden coordinates well with reality, partly because he has a good character, but probably mainly because he coordinates with people who know what they're doing and also have good characters.

A lot of Republicans are doing what they can to thwart wh**ever Biden does, and Biden's political party only has 50 out of 100 senators, so it's a really difficult job, but he does as well as we could reasonably expect a President to do in the circumstances.
You wrote "... as President..." and &quo... (show quote)


Biden is tough???? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ You're seriously have TDS...If biden runs against Trump, Teump will eat him for illunch and dinner and maybe misnight snack!! πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„ He Biden destroying this GREATEST country!!!😦😦😦 All I can say is LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

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Oct 29, 2021 07:27:35   #
American Vet
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
"price" -- Yes it is expensive. So? It's a matter of priorities. Republicans usually want to reduce taxes a little bit for everybody and keep them really, really low for wealthy people and corporations. Every time Republicans cut taxes, that makes a deficit and then the next Democratic administration inherits the associated national debt. _That's_ expensive.

If something's necessary then it may be worth a high price to pay for it.

Note that there's a big difference between a trillion dollars spread out over 10 years and a trillion dollars spent all at once.

"I******s" crossing the border is almost no problem at all. Yes, there is something illegal about some entrances and some stays. I'm not much concerned about it. I believe that, currently, most i*****l i*******ts do more good than harm. The very vegetables I eat may have been picked by some of them, and I don't want to do that field work myself. We have plenty of more significant "problems" to think about. I'm pretty sure that Western European immigrants from 1492 to about 1800 or 1900 did more harm than good, but the i*****l i*******ts now do more good than harm.

"jobs", "oil", and "energy": All that is only good when it benefits people more than harms people. Pollution's a really important problem. And: People can do more than just one kind of job. For example back in the beginning of the p******c the government should have created a whole lot of government jobs to make and distribute medical equipment such as masks, which were in short supply at hospitals for a very long time. It would have been worth the cost to pay those people in those jobs. It would have made people healthier, not sicker. We also needed lots of contact tracing and testing, and there should have been a lot of jobs created to do those things. It would have helped millions of people be healthier and would have helped preserve much of the rest of the economy too, because with contact tracing and testing there wouldn't have been so much rapid spread of the v***s so there wouldn't have had to be so many closings and slowdowns of businesses. And it would have been worth the cost.

As those things weren't done soon, now they will be done later, and it will cost more. It would have cost less if it had been started vigorously at the start of the p******c.

"Afghanistan": I guess that it was wrong to publicly announce any timetable for withdrawal. I think that was a mistake. More generally though, the U.S. presence in Afghanistan was going to be a disaster almost from the beginning. I don't think Trump did much better with it -- what did he do, promise to withdraw? Then Biden actually did it, and of course we see how difficult it is to actually do it. And, I agree with you about people (not just Americans -- I'm thinking more of Afghans who helped Americans) being "left behind" in Afghanistan -- that truly is an awful situation, and I think the withdrawal could have been done better, without publicly announcing any timetable for withdrawal, but instead just getting people out gradually in the best order that could be planned. Again, Biden bit the bullet and actually commenced a withdrawal, whereas Trump talked about it, and talking's easier than doing.
"price" -- Yes it is expensive. So? It... (show quote)


*** Republicans usually want to reduce taxes a little bit for everybody and keep them really, really low for wealthy people and corporations.

> Usual tripe coming from democrats. Main intent is to induce a class warfare mind set.


***"I******s" crossing the border is almost no problem at all.

> Of course!! Breaking the law is no big deal. Everyone should be allowed to pick and choose which laws to obey.


***"jobs", "oil", and "energy": All that is only good when it benefits people more than harms people.

> You mean like t***sporting food, clothing, and materials? Or a benefit like heating your home? Or allowing you to commute to your job?
The rest of the paragraph is the "what if" game....


*** Afghanistan

> biden screwed the pooch. He owns it.

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Oct 29, 2021 11:55:15   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
RobertX8Y wrote:
"price" -- Yes it is expensive. So? It's a matter of priorities. Republicans usually want to reduce taxes a little bit for everybody and keep them really, really low for wealthy people and corporations. Every time Republicans cut taxes, that makes a deficit and then the next Democratic administration inherits the associated national debt. _That's_ expensive.

If something's necessary then it may be worth a high price to pay for it.

Note that there's a big difference between a trillion dollars spread out over 10 years and a trillion dollars spent all at once.

"I******s" crossing the border is almost no problem at all. Yes, there is something illegal about some entrances and some stays. I'm not much concerned about it. I believe that, currently, most i*****l i*******ts do more good than harm. The very vegetables I eat may have been picked by some of them, and I don't want to do that field work myself. We have plenty of more significant "problems" to think about. I'm pretty sure that Western European immigrants from 1492 to about 1800 or 1900 did more harm than good, but the i*****l i*******ts now do more good than harm.

"jobs", "oil", and "energy": All that is only good when it benefits people more than harms people. Pollution's a really important problem. And: People can do more than just one kind of job. For example back in the beginning of the p******c the government should have created a whole lot of government jobs to make and distribute medical equipment such as masks, which were in short supply at hospitals for a very long time. It would have been worth the cost to pay those people in those jobs. It would have made people healthier, not sicker. We also needed lots of contact tracing and testing, and there should have been a lot of jobs created to do those things. It would have helped millions of people be healthier and would have helped preserve much of the rest of the economy too, because with contact tracing and testing there wouldn't have been so much rapid spread of the v***s so there wouldn't have had to be so many closings and slowdowns of businesses. And it would have been worth the cost.

As those things weren't done soon, now they will be done later, and it will cost more. It would have cost less if it had been started vigorously at the start of the p******c.

"Afghanistan": I guess that it was wrong to publicly announce any timetable for withdrawal. I think that was a mistake. More generally though, the U.S. presence in Afghanistan was going to be a disaster almost from the beginning. I don't think Trump did much better with it -- what did he do, promise to withdraw? Then Biden actually did it, and of course we see how difficult it is to actually do it. And, I agree with you about people (not just Americans -- I'm thinking more of Afghans who helped Americans) being "left behind" in Afghanistan -- that truly is an awful situation, and I think the withdrawal could have been done better, without publicly announcing any timetable for withdrawal, but instead just getting people out gradually in the best order that could be planned. Again, Biden bit the bullet and actually commenced a withdrawal, whereas Trump talked about it, and talking's easier than doing.
"price" -- Yes it is expensive. So? It... (show quote)



America....you have no love for her.

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Oct 29, 2021 17:31:33   #
RobertX8Y
 
proud republican wrote:
Biden is tough???? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ You're seriously have TDS...If biden runs against Trump, Teump will eat him for illunch and dinner and maybe misnight snack!! πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„ He Biden destroying this GREATEST country!!!😦😦😦 All I can say is LET'S GO BRANDON!!!


You write: "If [B]iden runs against Trump, T[r]ump will eat him for [lunch] and dinner and maybe mi[d]night snack!!" Etc.

It depends on how you define "eat him for [lunch] and dinner and maybe mi[d]night snack".

Biden did run against Trump, and won. That happened less than a year ago; have you forgotten already?

If eating a person for meals were to correlate positively with losing an e******n to that person, then you might be talking sense. That would be really strange, upon seeing what you did write.

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