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Donald Trump Jr., a chip off the old block, drops below zero in class and decency: what eles could we expect?
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Oct 26, 2021 08:26:45   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
What an ugly American. DJTJ is awful.

Gosh, we have plenty of ugly and awful here.

Other countries are probably amused by our stupidity and meanness on display.


I’m always amused with people who continually dish it out then suddenly become offended and righteous when their opposition is no longer silent. Personally, I’m proud to be an “Ugly American” and part of the most benevolent nation in the history of mankind.

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Oct 26, 2021 08:45:20   #
American Vet
 
JR-57 wrote:
I’m always amused with people who continually dish it out then suddenly become offended and righteous when their opposition is no longer silent. Personally, I’m proud to be an “Ugly American” and part of the most benevolent nation known in the history of mankind.



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Oct 26, 2021 08:58:33   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
rumitoid wrote:
Insider
Sinéad Baker

Donald Trump Jr. is selling shirts that say "guns don't k**l people, Alec Baldwin k**ls people" after Baldwin fired a prop gun on a movie set and k**led a cinematographer.

Baldwin fired the prop gun on the set of "Rust" last Thursday after reportedly being told it was not loaded. The cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died.

Trump Jr., the son of former President Donald Trump, is selling the shirts on his website for $27.99 in three colors: black, blue, and military green.

Baldwin, who portrayed the former president on "Saturday Night Live," has previously spoken out against the National Rifle Association and other gun rights activists. He has also been a vocal critic of Donald Trump.

Baldwin said on Friday that his "heart is broken" for Hutchins' family. People reported that he was "hysterical" and "inconsolable" and taking time off work since Hutchins' death.

He was seen hugging Hutchins' grieving husband on Saturday.

Hutchins' father told The Sun that he doesn't blame Baldwin for her death, and said it was the fault of the movie's prop team.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-selling-shirts-121034125.html
Insider br Sinéad Baker br br Donald Trump Jr. is... (show quote)

Are u judging his class by the upper class h****r! Lolololololololololol!!!!!

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Oct 26, 2021 08:59:43   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
rumitoid wrote:
Insider
Sinéad Baker

Donald Trump Jr. is selling shirts that say "guns don't k**l people, Alec Baldwin k**ls people" after Baldwin fired a prop gun on a movie set and k**led a cinematographer.

Baldwin fired the prop gun on the set of "Rust" last Thursday after reportedly being told it was not loaded. The cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died.

Trump Jr., the son of former President Donald Trump, is selling the shirts on his website for $27.99 in three colors: black, blue, and military green.

Baldwin, who portrayed the former president on "Saturday Night Live," has previously spoken out against the National Rifle Association and other gun rights activists. He has also been a vocal critic of Donald Trump.

Baldwin said on Friday that his "heart is broken" for Hutchins' family. People reported that he was "hysterical" and "inconsolable" and taking time off work since Hutchins' death.

He was seen hugging Hutchins' grieving husband on Saturday.

Hutchins' father told The Sun that he doesn't blame Baldwin for her death, and said it was the fault of the movie's prop team.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-selling-shirts-121034125.html
Insider br Sinéad Baker br br Donald Trump Jr. is... (show quote)


Where can I buy one???

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Oct 26, 2021 09:06:43   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
What an ugly American. DJTJ is awful.

Gosh, we have plenty of ugly and awful here.

Other countries are probably amused by our stupidity and meanness on display.


I’d rather have my kid selling tee shirts.



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Oct 26, 2021 09:10:45   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
rumitoid wrote:
Insider
Sinéad Baker

Donald Trump Jr. is selling shirts that say "guns don't k**l people, Alec Baldwin k**ls people" after Baldwin fired a prop gun on a movie set and k**led a cinematographer.

Baldwin fired the prop gun on the set of "Rust" last Thursday after reportedly being told it was not loaded. The cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died.

Trump Jr., the son of former President Donald Trump, is selling the shirts on his website for $27.99 in three colors: black, blue, and military green.

Baldwin, who portrayed the former president on "Saturday Night Live," has previously spoken out against the National Rifle Association and other gun rights activists. He has also been a vocal critic of Donald Trump.

Baldwin said on Friday that his "heart is broken" for Hutchins' family. People reported that he was "hysterical" and "inconsolable" and taking time off work since Hutchins' death.

He was seen hugging Hutchins' grieving husband on Saturday.

Hutchins' father told The Sun that he doesn't blame Baldwin for her death, and said it was the fault of the movie's prop team.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-selling-shirts-121034125.html
Insider br Sinéad Baker br br Donald Trump Jr. is... (show quote)

Why did he make a movie with guns and not Bibles ? If he was such an anti gun advocate??

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Oct 26, 2021 09:24:08   #
wilpharm
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What if we find out the live bullets were intentionally placed in the gun by a disgruntled trump supporter as sort of payback for spoofing on your highness?
What sort of karma will we call that ?


why didn't Baldwin check the gun first???? its always the shooters responsibility to check, not rely on someone else!!
Karma is a b***h, aint it!!!!!

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Oct 26, 2021 10:03:33   #
Carol Kelly
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Balldwin never pulled any punches when he portrayed Trump, many times falsely, on SNL. This is a bit of karma, IMHO.


Ditto!

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Oct 26, 2021 10:04:11   #
Carol Kelly
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Why did he make a movie with guns and not Bibles ? If he was such an anti gun advocate??


An obvious t***h.

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Oct 26, 2021 10:08:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What if we find out the live bullets were intentionally placed in the gun by a disgruntled trump supporter as sort of payback for spoofing on your highness?
What sort of karma will we call that ?


I’ve been waiting for exactly this from one of you l*****t progressive h**ers of Trump. And you sure bring it home today…I’m giving you 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 as you simply outdid yourself with this one!! Thank you for making my day..😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Oct 26, 2021 10:09:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
wilpharm wrote:
why didn't Baldwin check the gun first???? its always the shooters responsibility to check, not rely on someone else!!
Karma is a b***h, aint it!!!!!



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Oct 26, 2021 11:10:59   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What if we find out the live bullets were intentionally placed in the gun by a disgruntled trump supporter as sort of payback for spoofing on your highness?
What sort of karma will we call that ?


What if Milosia has amnesia, and can't relate to the past, or fact from fiction?
Could be a problem for him or her.
Which is it?

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Oct 26, 2021 11:17:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What if we find out the live bullets were intentionally placed in the gun by a disgruntled trump supporter as sort of payback for spoofing on your highness?
What sort of karma will we call that ?


Looks like really bad karma to me.
Sad that a lady had to pay the price.

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Oct 26, 2021 14:34:49   #
Carlos Caliente
 
Baldwin should have checked the gun for ammunition himself.
Never trust what anyone tells you, knowing for yourself is what he would have learned if he had taken a gun safety class with the N.R.A.

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Oct 26, 2021 14:52:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
wilpharm wrote:

why didn't Baldwin check the gun first???? its always the shooters responsibility to check, not rely on someone else!!
Karma is a b***h, aint it!!!!!
Carlos Caliente wrote:
Baldwin should have checked the gun for ammunition himself.
Never trust what anyone tells you, knowing for yourself is what he would have learned if he had taken a gun safety class with the N.R.A.
There are very strict laws around handling prop weapons during a film shoot and even blank ammunition is loaded in front of the crew, says Seth Rossman, a Toronto armaments specialist for film and TV productions.

The weapons master is required to be on set whenever a weapon is being used. The Actors' Equity Association's guidelines state that, "Before each use, the weapons master (armorer) should make sure the gun has been test-fired offstage, supervise a test firing, or test fire it him or herself. The weapons master must watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside. All loading of firearms must be done by the property master, armorer or experienced persons working under their direct supervision.

Nowadays, all weapons are checked before blanks are loaded into the weapon. The blanks themselves are never loaded until the very last minute, when all crew is in position, so the armorer knows exactly where every member of the crew is so that no one's walking through any danger areas the armorer has set up.

We don't know what happened on the set of Rust, but it is fairly common to have a gun pointed at the camera, and by extension the cinematographer, to get a certain angle.

"We've all seen the very famous shots in films where you get that dramatic effect of a gun being pointed at you, the audience, and of course, it's being pointed toward the camera," explained Steven Hall, a veteran second unit director and cinematographer who has worked on films like Fury and Thor: The Dark World.

To minimize that, one would put a remote camera in that place, or at least, if someone does have to operate the camera, I'm normally protected by safety goggles, a safety visor and often a PERSPEX screen that withstands pretty much anything. Obviously, it wouldn't withstand a real shot from a gun, but it would certainly withstand a blank.

By the time a gun or guns are handed to the actor or actors for a rehearsal or take, the gun or guns have been checked by at least three people experienced with firearms. The actors are not required to "safe" the gun before the cameras roll.


The movie "Rust" had a limited budget, the production company could not afford to hire the world class pros, nor did they even hire members of the union (IATSE Local 44). The weapons master (armorer) for this movie, Hanna Gutierrez, is inexperienced, the movie "Rust" would be her 2nd movie. Due to her inexperience, she was reluctant to take on the job, but she signed on. And, it is obvious from what we know so far that she wasn't up to the job. However, Gutierrez cannot be singled out any more than can Baldwin.

Accidents don't just happen, they are caused, and most often it is a series of mistakes that add up and lead to an accident.

To be clear, I am not Alec Baldwin's defense attorney, I am not attempting to exonerate him from any responsibility in this, rather I am defending his rights as an American citizen. All are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Upholding the rule of law is something the l*****ts never do, and I have no intention of sinking to that level.

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