whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

We keep hearing about CRT, s******c r****m, unfair employment conditions, outright discrimination and the like. It's a social problem that has plagued the human race since time immemorial.
There's no getting around it. We are instinctively r****t, sexist, ethnicism, and almost any other 'ist/ism' that you care to name. There's no getting around it, and at some point we have to realize that we are that way. Everyone is.
Pure out-and-out r****m is but the first hint of what this whole thing is. Take a look at the number of interracial marriages compared to the total of intra-race marriages. The rate of intermarriage is very low compared to the remainder. And the children of an interracial couple don't have the best time growing up, either.
At the core of this is an instinctual tendency to reject anything that isn't like us. Our i****e s****m is based on the recognition and rejection of alien infections. I think that basic outlook is carried over into our biases at a very basic level. It is amplified by life experiences.
Take this example: As a child you are playing on the sidewalk when a tall man with red hair, a beard, and wearing sandals comes by and kicks the living hell out of you for no reason. You go running into the house, but he's gone by the time your mom gets to the street.
Fast forward forty years or so … you are the CEO of a software company, looking for some top-tier talent to implement a new product. The prime programmer candidate with impeccable credentials is a tall man with red hair, a beard, and wearing sandals. If you can tell me that you wouldn't have reservations about this guy that you couldn't name, I'd say you're probably fooling yourself. It's there, and while you couldn't identify it, it would surface.
The same happens with white employers and black candidates, and vis-versa. No matter how you frame it, there's an implicit tendency to s******c r****m in all of us. But not only is it confined to race, it is present in almost all our interactions with our fellow human beings.
The snobbery of research scientists to their technical staff is legendary. The treatment of lower seniority chefs by their erudite master culinary artists is equally well known. "The Devil Wears Prada" is a film portrayal of the fashion industry that highlights this same problem.
"If it ain't like me, it ain't." We all have it … there's no getting around it. We may claim to be clean as a whistle in one segment of our personality but I'd bet there's some other bias that you have to make up for it.
As for r****m in general ...
Politicians are scrambling like mad to be politically correct as regards race and the ugly t***h about r****m and all the other 'isms' in our history.
Of course Negro s***ery and its aftermath is at the top of the list. A prominent example was what happened in Greenwood, Oklahoma in 1921. It's still happening today is more subtle ways.
The Irish immigrants fleeing the Potato Famine were equally forced into the lowest echelon of society because they "talked funny", and … they were Catholic. Following them were the Poles who displaced them on the bottom rung of the economic ladder as the Irish assimilated. Then came the Italians … etc. etc. etc…
Bias against Jews is an ongoing problem. One of the most egregious examples of this was the refusal of the U.S. government to allow a shipload of Jews (SS St Louis) fleeing N**i Germany in 1939 to land in the United States, ultimately forcing them back to Germany and probable extinction.
The Native American genocide that lasted three-plus centuries has left repercussions that resonate to this day, resulting in massive poverty and unemployment (for the most part) on Indian Reservations.
The ens***ement of the Native Californians by the Spanish Conquistadors through their Catholic priests is well documented.
The treatment of the Chinese workers brought over to build the t***s-continental railroad once they were done with them was pathetic. That treatment and antipathy carried over in large part to the incarceration of Japanese-Americans in internment camps during the Second World War.
In the present day, the huge biases against Moslem, Asian, and Hispanic arrivals are amplified daily by the news networks who cover this problem.
The list goes on and on ...
The gist of all this is that s******c r****m is alive and well, no matter how much we do to paper it over and ignore it.
The solution (if there really is one) is to teach history as it really happened … not as we would like it to be.
History is in the making as we speak.
The r**t/i**********n/tourist_visit to the Capitol on J****** 6th of this year is a classic example of how attempts to distort it are done. Almost everyone saw it in real time on the news channels and it's been regurgitated endlessly since then. You saw it with your own eyes. There are now those that claim that it wasn't that big a deal. They claim it was just patriotic Americans visiting their lawmakers. They claim that it was a "normal tourist visit".
I cannot bring myself to classify a mob shouting "Hang Mike Pence" and carrying a portable gallows as being "normal Capitol visitors." I can't accept the idea that these were "loyal American Patriots" when they were forcibly entering the Capitol building intent on disrupting the legal t******r of p***r following an e******n. When most of them tell authorities that "Donald Trump sent me here" or "I was told by Donald Trump to come here", it's tough to say that it was anything but a c**p.
This is all fact. You saw it. And the history is already being distorted with talk of the martyrdom of Ashley Babbit who was forcibly trying to climb through a door to gain access to the House floor. It is being said that these violators are being "politically persecuted" and held as "political prisoners". The actual facts of this incident you saw with your own eyes and heard for yourself. Will you allow the history of this incident to be written otherwise than the facts that you personally saw and heard?

Making sure that the facts of our heritage are accurate and learning from them is paramount to having a just society. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." We must be more vigilant now than ever if we want to keep our democracy and freedom. Part of that is recognizing the true past and vowing never to repeat it.
Unfortunately, I doubt that we will ever achieve such a goal, since our base instincts of exclusion and bias will probably continue to take over our thinking.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

The author grossly misguided in combining "Bias" which is inherent in the human nature and r****m, which is not. He lacks the understanding of the "True " definition of both bias and r****m.
Bringing in historical facts then amplify a current day false narrative with false interweaving of bias and r****t.
Our country does not have widespread r****m, however our dark leaders and media, joined at the hip with an agenda to divide Americans with a multi fork prong, one being ...we are r****t for simply having a different moral, ethical, religious or political compass.

It would also do the author good to retract the notion of "I**********n " based on the FBI investigation and report their of.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

I can only come up with one word to reply to this poster ... OSTRITCH!!! It proves my point in the post.

BTW "i**********n" is defined as ... "a violent uprising against an authority or government." I don't know how else to define J****** 6 but that.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

And you have a l*****t bias.
***BTW "i**********n" is defined as ... "a violent uprising against an authority or government." I don't know how else to define J****** 6 but that.
>>>Funny. That is what I saw in the summer of 2020 with all of the B*M and a****a led i**********nists demonstration like trying to burn down the court house in Portland, tearing down statues, l**ting, arson, attacking police, etc.

The original post had some good analysis on bias. You lost it in calling J** 6 an i**********n. Pure l*****t democrat bias to the usual extreme

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

You cannot end r****m.........................with more r****m.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

To all of you that say that s******c r****m doesn't exist in America ... check the statistics for minority membership in the boards and high level management in the Forbes 500 and then tell me that there isn't s******c r****m in the country.
As for the violent demonstrations allegedly led by A****A and B*M "i**********nists" ... these were hoodlums that were not part of the actual demonstrations. There was no connection there between the 'r****rs' and the actual demonstration (with the exception of that violence instigated by O**h K****rs and P***d B**s), and the documentation for that exists. There is a vast difference between hoodlums on a rampage and a dedicated, directed group of far-right extremists attempting to disrupt the functions of government to alter the outcome of an e******n. If you can equate these two facts, I have a banana plantation in Guatamala I would like to sell you.

agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa

Ashley Babbot was being lifted thru the window when she was shot but that detail has been covered up rather well !

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

And this matters how? She was still trying to get into the House Chamber.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

The FBI report states (if you took the time to read it) there were no plans by either the p***d b**s or o**h k****rs to do any actions once inside the Capital. Also states the most far extremist had no plans. Because a few i***ts had "Hang Mike Pence " signs and a few means less than a dozen, doesn't define an i**********n.
Also The FBI released the videos of the "Head" of A****a, at the front lines smashing out the Capitol windows and the mass majority of the crowd "Chanting" NO A****a...
Also the then President Trump's every text, phone calls and speeches said nothing about taking over the Capitol....but some mentally deranged few, looking for hidden messages believed Trump was sending them a message..

CATCH up on the FBI report that is leaving egg on the Democrats and media's faces.
But unless you read the report yourself, you will only hear lies and media's spinning falsehood

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

What's up?
I keep agreeing with many of your posts.

StubbornSenior

I agree. Well said.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

How can teaching white kids their evil oppressors build up more confident and empathic people and tell black and brown kids their beaten down and will never succeed build them up to want to excel in anything. All it does is tear down both and cause resentment and hatredto those not the same skin color. It destroys and causes lasting damage and is a travesty to all young people in our country.

hbmac10

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

Mob psychology bears out what you are saying. A lynch mob for the most part doesn't have a plan per se other than following a few leaders that do. Likewise the capitol mob, once inside, didn't have a plan except for the few "i***ts" that were intent on disrupting the congressional approval of the e*******l v**es. A lynch mob's leaders have the intent of grabbing their victim, finding the nearest tree, and stringing them up. The vast majority of the mob probably wouldn't do it on their own, and are just along for the ride. The same is true of the capitol mob. As for it being an i**********n, I stand by my quoted definition. A lynch mob is still a lynch mob, since the intent of the leaders of that mob was to perform the lynching.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/29/fact-check-john-sullivan-not-a****a-member-j***6-capitol-r**t/5405679001/


President Trump operates on the basis of never giving a direct order, thus invoking 'plausible deniability' … "I never ordered that."
His personal attorney for many years (Michael Cohen)said as much in that it was also inference that those around him understood to be an order, even though it was never given directly. "I would prefer that xxxx would be an ideal solution" or some such … never saying "do it."
Those leading the "i**********n" (that was what it was) were not mentally deranged and well understood the messaging that they were being given.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

All I'm asking for is to teach the history accurately "without fear or favor." No bias, no inferences.