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Oct 17, 2021 13:22:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending bill i***t Joe and the Progressives want to push through is a disaster. However; we need not just look at the size of this monstrosity. We need to look at the ingredients. Here are some of the wonderful things in the Bill: ( Remember it is $4.3 trillion in spending. Eight times more than the Interstate Highway cost, the most in history).

$400 B for daycare (babysitting)
$2 Trillion tax increase (largest ever)
Incentives not to work
Higher business taxes
$50 B more in death taxes
$80 B in tax hikes on small business
Higher taxes on energy, employers, and cigarets
doubles the number of IRS agent
$10 B to colleges to encourage c*****e c****e courses
$2 B for Green New Deal job training
Blocks American energy exploration
$27 B for a "Green Bank" for wind and solar. (did this in California. Result; blackouts)
Billions in kickbacks for g***n e****y companies. ( Can you say Solyndra?)
$25M to study butterflies
$25M to study desert fish
$25 M to study mussels
$4 B slush fund for radicals to remove r****t infrastructure

I******S:
$100 B for amnesty
Free college
Tax Credits
Welfare

$500 M for culturally appropriate school lunch's
$4 B for Ivy league schools (already rich)
250 M for the health insurance companies (Didn't we bail them out with c***d funds?)
Free Housing for convicted felons
tax payer funded a******ns
grants for people suffering from loneliness

There is much more. If what you have read doesn't outrage you, IMO you are either an i***t or h**e this country. Probably both.

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Oct 17, 2021 13:25:59   #
son of witless
 
JFlorio wrote:
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending bill i***t Joe and the Progressives want to push through is a disaster. However; we need not just look at the size of this monstrosity. We need to look at the ingredients. Here are some of the wonderful things in the Bill: ( Remember it is $4.3 trillion in spending. Eight times more than the Interstate Highway cost, the most in history).

$400 B for daycare (babysitting)
$2 Trillion tax increase (largest ever)
Incentives not to work
Higher business taxes
$50 B more in death taxes
$80 B in tax hikes on small business
Higher taxes on energy, employers, and cigarets
doubles the number of IRS agent
$10 B to colleges to encourage c*****e c****e courses
$2 B for Green New Deal job training
Blocks American energy exploration
$27 B for a "Green Bank" for wind and solar. (did this in California. Result; blackouts)
Billions in kickbacks for g***n e****y companies. ( Can you say Solyndra?)
$25M to study butterflies
$25M to study desert fish
$25 M to study mussels
$4 B slush fund for radicals to remove r****t infrastructure

I******S:
$100 B for amnesty
Free college
Tax Credits
Welfare

$500 M for culturally appropriate school lunch's
$4 B for Ivy league schools (already rich)
250 M for the health insurance companies (Didn't we bail them out with c***d funds?)
Free Housing for convicted felons
tax payer funded a******ns
grants for people suffering from loneliness

There is much more. If what you have read doesn't outrage you, IMO you are either an i***t or h**e this country. Probably both.
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending... (show quote)


I have said it before. There are only 2 kinds of Democratic V**ers. The crooks and liars, and the brain dead stupid ones. There is no third category.

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Oct 17, 2021 13:39:21   #
MeddlesomeMom
 
JFlorio wrote:
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending bill i***t Joe and the Progressives want to push through is a disaster. However; we need not just look at the size of this monstrosity. We need to look at the ingredients. Here are some of the wonderful things in the Bill: ( Remember it is $4.3 trillion in spending. Eight times more than the Interstate Highway cost, the most in history).

$400 B for daycare (babysitting)
$2 Trillion tax increase (largest ever)
Incentives not to work
Higher business taxes
$50 B more in death taxes
$80 B in tax hikes on small business
Higher taxes on energy, employers, and cigarets
doubles the number of IRS agent
$10 B to colleges to encourage c*****e c****e courses
$2 B for Green New Deal job training
Blocks American energy exploration
$27 B for a "Green Bank" for wind and solar. (did this in California. Result; blackouts)
Billions in kickbacks for g***n e****y companies. ( Can you say Solyndra?)
$25M to study butterflies
$25M to study desert fish
$25 M to study mussels
$4 B slush fund for radicals to remove r****t infrastructure

I******S:
$100 B for amnesty
Free college
Tax Credits
Welfare

$500 M for culturally appropriate school lunch's
$4 B for Ivy league schools (already rich)
250 M for the health insurance companies (Didn't we bail them out with c***d funds?)
Free Housing for convicted felons
tax payer funded a******ns
grants for people suffering from loneliness

There is much more. If what you have read doesn't outrage you, IMO you are either an i***t or h**e this country. Probably both.
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending... (show quote)



This is what is REALLY in the bill.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/budget-reconciliation-bill-build-back-better-act/

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Oct 17, 2021 14:35:53   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
MeddlesomeMom wrote:


What’s your point? The spending I sited is in there. Trillions of wasted dollars. CBS news? I’m sure that’s not spun.I can promise you this. If they pass this ridiculous social engineering bill the Average Americans quality of life, freedoms, and personal decisions will be reduced dramatically.

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Oct 17, 2021 14:58:31   #
MeddlesomeMom
 
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Facebook news. It’s easy to research it. Many of these programs can be life changing on par with the civil rights legislation of LBJ which also saw heated opposition.

Who ever you get your news from, the fact remains that America needs to invest in infrastructure, healthcare, education and c*****e c****e. If we continue to ignore it everyone will pay dearly for generations to come. It’s affecting us today! My child just graduated with a degree in geophysical sciences and this need is very real and at the forefront of some of the greatest intellectual minds.it’s very serious! We have put off c*****e c****e for far too long and the blue collar and lowest financial demographics will pay the price more than the well to do, as usual. This bill is designed to help everyone, not just the wealthy. In fact it helps the middle to lower income more than anything, but the PR machines of f****l f**l energy companies and those who would have to make changes and possibly lose income are in hyper drive to convince you it’s not a good idea. If they win, the majority of people lose in the end. The child tax credit can lift children out of poverty. The bill helps with medical costs. College education. The taxes target those who normally use tax loopholes to pay less passing on the cost to the blue collar workers of America. We need help! The middle class is dying and if the middle class does well the whole population does better. If the rich do better the wealth gap just increases! Our roads are cr*p and the pipes are poisoning children! The land is a wildland and a tinderbox while the coasts are flooding and storms are more powerful. Reaganomics and the tea party were the beginning of the huge disconnect in this country. We don’t want to be a third world authoritarian country. The BAB bill does more to help the overlooked and disadvantaged in this country more than anything in the last 40 years.

Given that complain about it if you truly is agree with everything in it. I don’t care and I’m tired of trying to educate people about facts.

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Oct 17, 2021 15:33:00   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You’re a simpleton. Life changing alright. Spending a bunch of money we don’t have. Typical progressive. Sounds great. Free stuff. Where does the money to pay for this come from. You know nothing of cause and effect.

MeddlesomeMom wrote:
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Facebook news. It’s easy to research it. Many of these programs can be life changing on par with the civil rights legislation of LBJ which also saw heated opposition.

Who ever you get your news from, the fact remains that America needs to invest in infrastructure, healthcare, education and c*****e c****e. If we continue to ignore it everyone will pay dearly for generations to come. It’s affecting us today! My child just graduated with a degree in geophysical sciences and this need is very real and at the forefront of some of the greatest intellectual minds.it’s very serious! We have put off c*****e c****e for far too long and the blue collar and lowest financial demographics will pay the price more than the well to do, as usual. This bill is designed to help everyone, not just the wealthy. In fact it helps the middle to lower income more than anything, but the PR machines of f****l f**l energy companies and those who would have to make changes and possibly lose income are in hyper drive to convince you it’s not a good idea. If they win, the majority of people lose in the end. The child tax credit can lift children out of poverty. The bill helps with medical costs. College education. The taxes target those who normally use tax loopholes to pay less passing on the cost to the blue collar workers of America. We need help! The middle class is dying and if the middle class does well the whole population does better. If the rich do better the wealth gap just increases! Our roads are cr*p and the pipes are poisoning children! The land is a wildland and a tinderbox while the coasts are flooding and storms are more powerful. Reaganomics and the tea party were the beginning of the huge disconnect in this country. We don’t want to be a third world authoritarian country. The BAB bill does more to help the overlooked and disadvantaged in this country more than anything in the last 40 years.

Given that complain about it if you truly is agree with everything in it. I don’t care and I’m tired of trying to educate people about facts.
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Fa... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2021 15:57:40   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
MeddlesomeMom wrote:
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Facebook news. It’s easy to research it. Many of these programs can be life changing on par with the civil rights legislation of LBJ which also saw heated opposition.

Who ever you get your news from, the fact remains that America needs to invest in infrastructure, healthcare, education and c*****e c****e. If we continue to ignore it everyone will pay dearly for generations to come. It’s affecting us today! My child just graduated with a degree in geophysical sciences and this need is very real and at the forefront of some of the greatest intellectual minds.it’s very serious! We have put off c*****e c****e for far too long and the blue collar and lowest financial demographics will pay the price more than the well to do, as usual. This bill is designed to help everyone, not just the wealthy. In fact it helps the middle to lower income more than anything, but the PR machines of f****l f**l energy companies and those who would have to make changes and possibly lose income are in hyper drive to convince you it’s not a good idea. If they win, the majority of people lose in the end. The child tax credit can lift children out of poverty. The bill helps with medical costs. College education. The taxes target those who normally use tax loopholes to pay less passing on the cost to the blue collar workers of America. We need help! The middle class is dying and if the middle class does well the whole population does better. If the rich do better the wealth gap just increases! Our roads are cr*p and the pipes are poisoning children! The land is a wildland and a tinderbox while the coasts are flooding and storms are more powerful. Reaganomics and the tea party were the beginning of the huge disconnect in this country. We don’t want to be a third world authoritarian country. The BAB bill does more to help the overlooked and disadvantaged in this country more than anything in the last 40 years.

Given that complain about it if you truly is agree with everything in it. I don’t care and I’m tired of trying to educate people about facts.
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Fa... (show quote)


Oh good Lord!!!!!!
We already have enough over educated useless people all over the world!
What do "intellectuals" actually produce? Ever see one fix a flat tire, build a road, shoe a horse, build a house, collect the garbage, deliver the mail, drive a truck, stock a shelf, unclog your sewer line, or anything else that keeps society moving?
And what good is a child tax credit going to do if the parents don't spend it on the kids?
Gimme a break!
We've been throwing money at this crap all my life, and it only gets worse.
What works is mothers and fathers in the home teaching kids that the world owes them nothing, and that they have to earn it. You d**g your ads out of bed, and go to WORK.

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Oct 17, 2021 16:21:57   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
MeddlesomeMom wrote:
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Facebook news. It’s easy to research it. Many of these programs can be life changing on par with the civil rights legislation of LBJ which also saw heated opposition.

Who ever you get your news from, the fact remains that America needs to invest in infrastructure, healthcare, education and c*****e c****e. If we continue to ignore it everyone will pay dearly for generations to come. It’s affecting us today! My child just graduated with a degree in geophysical sciences and this need is very real and at the forefront of some of the greatest intellectual minds.it’s very serious! We have put off c*****e c****e for far too long and the blue collar and lowest financial demographics will pay the price more than the well to do, as usual. This bill is designed to help everyone, not just the wealthy. In fact it helps the middle to lower income more than anything, but the PR machines of f****l f**l energy companies and those who would have to make changes and possibly lose income are in hyper drive to convince you it’s not a good idea. If they win, the majority of people lose in the end. The child tax credit can lift children out of poverty. The bill helps with medical costs. College education. The taxes target those who normally use tax loopholes to pay less passing on the cost to the blue collar workers of America. We need help! The middle class is dying and if the middle class does well the whole population does better. If the rich do better the wealth gap just increases! Our roads are cr*p and the pipes are poisoning children! The land is a wildland and a tinderbox while the coasts are flooding and storms are more powerful. Reaganomics and the tea party were the beginning of the huge disconnect in this country. We don’t want to be a third world authoritarian country. The BAB bill does more to help the overlooked and disadvantaged in this country more than anything in the last 40 years.

Given that complain about it if you truly is agree with everything in it. I don’t care and I’m tired of trying to educate people about facts.
You have a better chance of facts from CBS than Fa... (show quote)


All that pulls at the heart strings. That's the candy so they can push all the poison hidden inside.

We gave Obama and the democrats 800 billion 11 years ago for infrastructure. How did that work out. Oh yeah. He couldn't find any shovel ready infrastructure needs so most of it went to state employees salaries and pensions. And now, surprise surprise, we need infrastructure spending again. Why do you think this time will be any different than last time?

Twenty two trillion spent on welfare in the last 50 years and all I still hear about is poverty, crime and the destruction of minority family units in the impoverished cities. Was 22 trillion just not enough?

Government takeover of student loans and now we have a student loan crisis as college tuition has skyrocketed.

Government regulation meant to reduce risk from "to big to fail" banks resulted in consolidation of national wealth into just seven big banks.

Blue state c***d lock downs have destroyed our economy and tens of thousands of small businesses while big corporations have thrived. Talk about expanding the equity gap.

Blue cities spend 50% more on education than suburbs and rural schools and yet produce far inferior results. Democrat answer... spend more.

I could go on and on with government failures and destructive results.

Democrats say that Obama just did not spend enough so now we should give them 6 or 7 times more. So, why do you still think this time will be different? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. I guess Americans have gone insane is the only explanation.

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Oct 17, 2021 19:03:44   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Arch, my friend your statements are much too t***hful and wise for i***t progressives to understand. Progressives no longer want things earned by their own labor. They want things given to them on the backs of someone else’s labor.

archie bunker wrote:
Oh good Lord!!!!!!
We already have enough over educated useless people all over the world!
What do "intellectuals" actually produce? Ever see one fix a flat tire, build a road, shoe a horse, build a house, collect the garbage, deliver the mail, drive a truck, stock a shelf, unclog your sewer line, or anything else that keeps society moving?
And what good is a child tax credit going to do if the parents don't spend it on the kids?
Gimme a break!
We've been throwing money at this crap all my life, and it only gets worse.
What works is mothers and fathers in the home teaching kids that the world owes them nothing, and that they have to earn it. You d**g your ads out of bed, and go to WORK.
Oh good Lord!!!!!! br We already have enough over... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2021 19:19:41   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
MeddlesomeMom wrote:


You support mad scientist FrankenF***i and say he's a good guy.

Anything that you post after that kind of bullbiden should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Oct 17, 2021 20:16:51   #
son of witless
 
Michael Rich wrote:
You support mad scientist FrankenF***i and say he's a good guy.

Anything that you post after that kind of bullbiden should be taken with a grain of salt.


" FrankenF***i "

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Nov 1, 2021 14:29:10   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JFlorio wrote:
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending bill i***t Joe and the Progressives want to push through is a disaster. However; we need not just look at the size of this monstrosity. We need to look at the ingredients. Here are some of the wonderful things in the Bill: ( Remember it is $4.3 trillion in spending. Eight times more than the Interstate Highway cost, the most in history).

$400 B for daycare (babysitting)
$2 Trillion tax increase (largest ever)
Incentives not to work
Higher business taxes
$50 B more in death taxes
$80 B in tax hikes on small business
Higher taxes on energy, employers, and cigarets
doubles the number of IRS agent
$10 B to colleges to encourage c*****e c****e courses
$2 B for Green New Deal job training
Blocks American energy exploration
$27 B for a "Green Bank" for wind and solar. (did this in California. Result; blackouts)
Billions in kickbacks for g***n e****y companies. ( Can you say Solyndra?)
$25M to study butterflies
$25M to study desert fish
$25 M to study mussels
$4 B slush fund for radicals to remove r****t infrastructure

I******S:
$100 B for amnesty
Free college
Tax Credits
Welfare

$500 M for culturally appropriate school lunch's
$4 B for Ivy league schools (already rich)
250 M for the health insurance companies (Didn't we bail them out with c***d funds?)
Free Housing for convicted felons
tax payer funded a******ns
grants for people suffering from loneliness

There is much more. If what you have read doesn't outrage you, IMO you are either an i***t or h**e this country. Probably both.
We know (if you"re honest) that this spending... (show quote)


We need to have a moratorium on filing income tax! Withhold until we agree!

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Nov 1, 2021 14:30:02   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
MeddlesomeMom wrote:


Do u pay it!! How much are u getting?

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