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Oct 15, 2021 21:29:02   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Republicans will rig every e******n if Trump becomes President again

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/10/15/republicans-are-plotting-to-rig-every-e******n-if-trump-wins-in-2024.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=republicans-are-plotting-to-rig-every-e******n-if-trump-wins-in-2024

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Oct 15, 2021 21:31:36   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 




https://youtu.be/mEMYXsW99rU



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Oct 15, 2021 21:47:33   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 


Put the crack pipe down, and come up out of the basement..LET’S GO BRANDON!

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Oct 15, 2021 23:22:35   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
'E******n subversion' accusations: Donald Trump and allies look for new ways to challenge v**es

WASHINGTON – For weeks after E******n Day in 2020, then-President Donald Trump and his allies pressured state legislators and e******n officials to throw out v**es, submit pro-Trump slates to the E*******l College or otherwise overturn the results in enough states to deny victory to Joe Biden.

It didn't work – but opponents fear that Trump and his supporters plan to try again in 2024 with the help of new laws. As the former president ponders another campaign, Trump supporters and some Republican lawmakers in pivotal states are trying to make it easier to challenge and perhaps overturn future e******ns, analysts say, setting the stage for a crisis of democracy after the v**es are tabulated in November 2024.Trump's attacks on the 2020 e******n have triggered demands from some state Republicans to find ways of "overturning e******n results that they don't like," said Jessica Marsden, counsel to an organization called Protect Democracy. "It's not normal partisan warfare," Marsden said. "It's fundamentally at odds with the basic rules of democracy."

In closely contested states like Georgia and Arizona, Trump supporters are pushing rule changes that would essentially give partisan officeholders the power to certify e******n results – or to refuse to certify them, as the case may be.

The goal, opponents say, is to take power away from the kinds of officials who resisted Trump's pressure to change the results in states that Biden won.

Most of the proposals have not been enacted, and changing the results of any e******n would be difficult because of public pressure and court rulings, analysts say. But the rising demands for partisan control of e******n processes is fueling worries that Trump and his allies might try to “steal” losing e******ns in 2022 and 2024, with violent consequences that strike at the heart of democracy.

Rick Hasen, a University of California, Irvine, law professor who hosted a recent symposium on what he calls "e******n subversion," defines the concept as manipulating the rules in ways that would enable "a loser of an e******n being declared a winner."

Hasen also has said he fears the J*** 6 i**********n by Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol was a "dress rehearsal" for 2024 and other future e******ns.

"Ironically, the conduct of former President Donald J. Trump in repeatedly and falsely claiming that the 2020 e******n was s****n has markedly raised the potential for an actual s****n e******n in the United States," Hasen wrote in a research paper.

E******n law changes being pushed by some Republicans in various states stem from Trump's continuing false claims of v***r f***d in 2020.

Many proposals deal with what states do after v**es are counted and before they certify e******ns and submit delegations to the E*******l College – items described as "e******n subversion" or "e******n sabotage."

In a new report, a research organization called the V****g Rights Lab said that "subversion bills have either been enacted or seen significant momentum in key battleground states, including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Wisconsin, and others."

The report said that 17 state legislatures have introduced bills that would allow the legislature or other partisan officials to "exert greater control over the conduct of e******ns."

Sixteen states are considering laws designed to pressure e******n officials, from poll watchers to administrators, by creating new felony and misdemeanor laws to criminalize "even inadvertent, technical noncompliance with e******n rules," the report said.

Megan Lewis, executive director of the V****g Rights Lab, said too many states are "advancing legislation to undermine confidence in our e******ns and weaken the resiliency of our v****g systems."

In Georgia, the Legislature reduced the authority of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who publicly refused Trump's demand to "find" enough v**es for him to prevail over Biden in the state.

A new Georgia law also removed the secretary of state as head of the State E******n Board, which investigates claims of v**ers fraud and other irregularities. The Georgia Legislature now has the authority to appoint a majority of e******n board members and give that body the power to take over the e******n process in certain counties.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, found himself at the center of President Trump's challenges to the 2020 e******n. Trump has endorsed a GOP primary opponent for Raffensperger, as well as other e******n officials around the country who refused to help him overturn the 2020 e******n.

In Arizona, which Biden also won narrowly over Trump, the Legislature passed a law blocking the secretary of state – currently a Democrat – from representing the state on lawsuits dealing with e******ns. That authority now rests with the attorney general, currently a Republican, though that provision is scheduled to sunset on Jan. 2. 2023, when a new attorney general potentially takes office.

Another proposal in Arizona, not enacted so far, would allow the Legislature to basically ignore the result of the state's popular v**e by revoking the secretary of state's certification and permitting the Legislature to select its own slate of p**********l e*****rs.

State Rep. Shawnna Bolick, a Republican who sponsored the legislation, wrote in a Feb. 8 op-ed for the Washington Examiner that "it is time for the Arizona Legislature to regain the power it delegated to certify the e*****rs."

Bolick is now running for the Arizona secretary of state's job, pledging to pursue "e******n integrity."

Republicans are also seeking procedural changes in closely contested states that gave Biden his victory in the E*******l College, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Opponents fear that e******n "audits" in Arizona, Texas and possibly other states could be used to justify changes in e******n systems.

A recent report by a trio of public interest groups – Protect Democracy, States United Democracy Center and Law Forward – described many of these plans as tools to give partisan e******n officials the power to sow "confusion and uncertainty about the results, creating openings for legislators to seize control of e******n outcomes."

Analysts said it's hard to assess how these new rules might play out in future e******ns. Some of the more radical proposals – such as giving legislatures the authority to throw out b****ts or submit their own E*******l College slates – have not been approved by any legislature.

"The worst hasn't happened yet," said Lawrence Norden, director of the E******n Reform Program with the Brennan Center For Justice at the New York University School of Law. "But, of course, if the worst happens, it may be too late to do anything about it."

Stealing the e******n? Already, a rising number of people fear a more intensely protested e******n in 2024.

William Kristol, a conservative commentator who is backing Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe in the Virginia governor's race, said he is very concerned Trump will try to "steal the e******n in 2024."

Speaking just before a debate between McAuliffe and Republican opponent Glenn Youngkin, Kristol said Trump "would be happy" to use new rules to overturn adverse e******n results in key states.

"It's worrisome," Kristol said.

Some analysts said that while the threat is there, it would not be easy to steal an e******n.

For one thing, public opposition would be a factor and could deter lawmakers from pursuing e******n subversion, said Julia Azari, associate professor of political science at Marquette University in Milwaukee.

Some Republicans would likely push back on the idea of overturning an e******n result, just as they did when Trump tried in the past year, Azari said. The courts also could intervene in cases in which v**es were voided or e******ns overturned.

"The courts were pretty steadfast in 2020," Azari said. Courts rejected more than 60 legal challenges to various aspects of v**e counting in 2020.

She added, however, that proposed e******n law changes are "still a concerning thing."

Opponents of the Republican push are advocating for federal e******n laws that would essentially override state rules making it easier to overturn e******ns. They are also calling for public vigilance.

Benjamin Ginsberg, a longtime Republican e******n lawyer, cited polls showing that millions of Republicans believe Trump's claims about the 2020 e******n.

Public officials need to work to convince some of those people that last year's e******ns were fair, and the ones in 2022 and 2024 will be too, Ginsberg said. They also need to be ready to respond if there are more 2020-style protests after future e******ns.

"There are storm clouds looming on the horizon," Ginsberg said. "Be aware and act accordingly."

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Oct 16, 2021 01:20:04   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 


***Republicans will rig every e******n if Trump becomes President again
>>>democrats will continue to rig every e******n if a democrat becomes President again. AND THAT IS THE T***H

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Oct 16, 2021 06:39:06   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
slatten49 wrote:
'E******n subversion' accusations: Donald Trump and allies look for new ways to challenge v**es

WASHINGTON – For weeks after E******n Day in 2020, then-President Donald Trump and his allies pressured state legislators and e******n officials to throw out v**es, submit pro-Trump slates to the E*******l College or otherwise overturn the results in enough states to deny victory to Joe Biden.

It didn't work – but opponents fear that Trump and his supporters plan to try again in 2024 with the help of new laws. As the former president ponders another campaign, Trump supporters and some Republican lawmakers in pivotal states are trying to make it easier to challenge and perhaps overturn future e******ns, analysts say, setting the stage for a crisis of democracy after the v**es are tabulated in November 2024.Trump's attacks on the 2020 e******n have triggered demands from some state Republicans to find ways of "overturning e******n results that they don't like," said Jessica Marsden, counsel to an organization called Protect Democracy. "It's not normal partisan warfare," Marsden said. "It's fundamentally at odds with the basic rules of democracy."

In closely contested states like Georgia and Arizona, Trump supporters are pushing rule changes that would essentially give partisan officeholders the power to certify e******n results – or to refuse to certify them, as the case may be.

The goal, opponents say, is to take power away from the kinds of officials who resisted Trump's pressure to change the results in states that Biden won.

Most of the proposals have not been enacted, and changing the results of any e******n would be difficult because of public pressure and court rulings, analysts say. But the rising demands for partisan control of e******n processes is fueling worries that Trump and his allies might try to “steal” losing e******ns in 2022 and 2024, with violent consequences that strike at the heart of democracy.

Rick Hasen, a University of California, Irvine, law professor who hosted a recent symposium on what he calls "e******n subversion," defines the concept as manipulating the rules in ways that would enable "a loser of an e******n being declared a winner."

Hasen also has said he fears the J*** 6 i**********n by Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol was a "dress rehearsal" for 2024 and other future e******ns.

"Ironically, the conduct of former President Donald J. Trump in repeatedly and falsely claiming that the 2020 e******n was s****n has markedly raised the potential for an actual s****n e******n in the United States," Hasen wrote in a research paper.

E******n law changes being pushed by some Republicans in various states stem from Trump's continuing false claims of v***r f***d in 2020.

Many proposals deal with what states do after v**es are counted and before they certify e******ns and submit delegations to the E*******l College – items described as "e******n subversion" or "e******n sabotage."

In a new report, a research organization called the V****g Rights Lab said that "subversion bills have either been enacted or seen significant momentum in key battleground states, including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Wisconsin, and others."

The report said that 17 state legislatures have introduced bills that would allow the legislature or other partisan officials to "exert greater control over the conduct of e******ns."

Sixteen states are considering laws designed to pressure e******n officials, from poll watchers to administrators, by creating new felony and misdemeanor laws to criminalize "even inadvertent, technical noncompliance with e******n rules," the report said.

Megan Lewis, executive director of the V****g Rights Lab, said too many states are "advancing legislation to undermine confidence in our e******ns and weaken the resiliency of our v****g systems."

In Georgia, the Legislature reduced the authority of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who publicly refused Trump's demand to "find" enough v**es for him to prevail over Biden in the state.

A new Georgia law also removed the secretary of state as head of the State E******n Board, which investigates claims of v**ers fraud and other irregularities. The Georgia Legislature now has the authority to appoint a majority of e******n board members and give that body the power to take over the e******n process in certain counties.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, found himself at the center of President Trump's challenges to the 2020 e******n. Trump has endorsed a GOP primary opponent for Raffensperger, as well as other e******n officials around the country who refused to help him overturn the 2020 e******n.

In Arizona, which Biden also won narrowly over Trump, the Legislature passed a law blocking the secretary of state – currently a Democrat – from representing the state on lawsuits dealing with e******ns. That authority now rests with the attorney general, currently a Republican, though that provision is scheduled to sunset on Jan. 2. 2023, when a new attorney general potentially takes office.

Another proposal in Arizona, not enacted so far, would allow the Legislature to basically ignore the result of the state's popular v**e by revoking the secretary of state's certification and permitting the Legislature to select its own slate of p**********l e*****rs.

State Rep. Shawnna Bolick, a Republican who sponsored the legislation, wrote in a Feb. 8 op-ed for the Washington Examiner that "it is time for the Arizona Legislature to regain the power it delegated to certify the e*****rs."

Bolick is now running for the Arizona secretary of state's job, pledging to pursue "e******n integrity."

Republicans are also seeking procedural changes in closely contested states that gave Biden his victory in the E*******l College, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Opponents fear that e******n "audits" in Arizona, Texas and possibly other states could be used to justify changes in e******n systems.

A recent report by a trio of public interest groups – Protect Democracy, States United Democracy Center and Law Forward – described many of these plans as tools to give partisan e******n officials the power to sow "confusion and uncertainty about the results, creating openings for legislators to seize control of e******n outcomes."

Analysts said it's hard to assess how these new rules might play out in future e******ns. Some of the more radical proposals – such as giving legislatures the authority to throw out b****ts or submit their own E*******l College slates – have not been approved by any legislature.

"The worst hasn't happened yet," said Lawrence Norden, director of the E******n Reform Program with the Brennan Center For Justice at the New York University School of Law. "But, of course, if the worst happens, it may be too late to do anything about it."

Stealing the e******n? Already, a rising number of people fear a more intensely protested e******n in 2024.

William Kristol, a conservative commentator who is backing Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe in the Virginia governor's race, said he is very concerned Trump will try to "steal the e******n in 2024."

Speaking just before a debate between McAuliffe and Republican opponent Glenn Youngkin, Kristol said Trump "would be happy" to use new rules to overturn adverse e******n results in key states.

"It's worrisome," Kristol said.

Some analysts said that while the threat is there, it would not be easy to steal an e******n.

For one thing, public opposition would be a factor and could deter lawmakers from pursuing e******n subversion, said Julia Azari, associate professor of political science at Marquette University in Milwaukee.

Some Republicans would likely push back on the idea of overturning an e******n result, just as they did when Trump tried in the past year, Azari said. The courts also could intervene in cases in which v**es were voided or e******ns overturned.

"The courts were pretty steadfast in 2020," Azari said. Courts rejected more than 60 legal challenges to various aspects of v**e counting in 2020.

She added, however, that proposed e******n law changes are "still a concerning thing."

Opponents of the Republican push are advocating for federal e******n laws that would essentially override state rules making it easier to overturn e******ns. They are also calling for public vigilance.

Benjamin Ginsberg, a longtime Republican e******n lawyer, cited polls showing that millions of Republicans believe Trump's claims about the 2020 e******n.

Public officials need to work to convince some of those people that last year's e******ns were fair, and the ones in 2022 and 2024 will be too, Ginsberg said. They also need to be ready to respond if there are more 2020-style protests after future e******ns.

"There are storm clouds looming on the horizon," Ginsberg said. "Be aware and act accordingly."
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Why worry about what someone might do in future e******ns and work on who is responsible for stealing the 2020 e******n? If you can't see the ways they did it this time then you'll never figure out how they might do it in the next one

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Oct 16, 2021 07:03:01   #
EmilyD
 

Are you aware what party is now in control of all three branches of our government?? And you say this???

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Oct 16, 2021 09:38:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 


They're r*****g e******ns already.

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Oct 16, 2021 09:38:40   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
slatten49 wrote:
'E******n subversion' accusations: Donald Trump and allies look for new ways to challenge v**es

WASHINGTON – For weeks after E******n Day in 2020, then-President Donald Trump and his allies pressured state legislators and e******n officials to throw out v**es, submit pro-Trump slates to the E*******l College or otherwise overturn the results in enough states to deny victory to Joe Biden.

It didn't work – but opponents fear that Trump and his supporters plan to try again in 2024 with the help of new laws. As the former president ponders another campaign, Trump supporters and some Republican lawmakers in pivotal states are trying to make it easier to challenge and perhaps overturn future e******ns, analysts say, setting the stage for a crisis of democracy after the v**es are tabulated in November 2024.Trump's attacks on the 2020 e******n have triggered demands from some state Republicans to find ways of "overturning e******n results that they don't like," said Jessica Marsden, counsel to an organization called Protect Democracy. "It's not normal partisan warfare," Marsden said. "It's fundamentally at odds with the basic rules of democracy."

In closely contested states like Georgia and Arizona, Trump supporters are pushing rule changes that would essentially give partisan officeholders the power to certify e******n results – or to refuse to certify them, as the case may be.

The goal, opponents say, is to take power away from the kinds of officials who resisted Trump's pressure to change the results in states that Biden won.

Most of the proposals have not been enacted, and changing the results of any e******n would be difficult because of public pressure and court rulings, analysts say. But the rising demands for partisan control of e******n processes is fueling worries that Trump and his allies might try to “steal” losing e******ns in 2022 and 2024, with violent consequences that strike at the heart of democracy.

Rick Hasen, a University of California, Irvine, law professor who hosted a recent symposium on what he calls "e******n subversion," defines the concept as manipulating the rules in ways that would enable "a loser of an e******n being declared a winner."

Hasen also has said he fears the J*** 6 i**********n by Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol was a "dress rehearsal" for 2024 and other future e******ns.

"Ironically, the conduct of former President Donald J. Trump in repeatedly and falsely claiming that the 2020 e******n was s****n has markedly raised the potential for an actual s****n e******n in the United States," Hasen wrote in a research paper.

E******n law changes being pushed by some Republicans in various states stem from Trump's continuing false claims of v***r f***d in 2020.

Many proposals deal with what states do after v**es are counted and before they certify e******ns and submit delegations to the E*******l College – items described as "e******n subversion" or "e******n sabotage."

In a new report, a research organization called the V****g Rights Lab said that "subversion bills have either been enacted or seen significant momentum in key battleground states, including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Wisconsin, and others."

The report said that 17 state legislatures have introduced bills that would allow the legislature or other partisan officials to "exert greater control over the conduct of e******ns."

Sixteen states are considering laws designed to pressure e******n officials, from poll watchers to administrators, by creating new felony and misdemeanor laws to criminalize "even inadvertent, technical noncompliance with e******n rules," the report said.

Megan Lewis, executive director of the V****g Rights Lab, said too many states are "advancing legislation to undermine confidence in our e******ns and weaken the resiliency of our v****g systems."

In Georgia, the Legislature reduced the authority of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who publicly refused Trump's demand to "find" enough v**es for him to prevail over Biden in the state.

A new Georgia law also removed the secretary of state as head of the State E******n Board, which investigates claims of v**ers fraud and other irregularities. The Georgia Legislature now has the authority to appoint a majority of e******n board members and give that body the power to take over the e******n process in certain counties.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, found himself at the center of President Trump's challenges to the 2020 e******n. Trump has endorsed a GOP primary opponent for Raffensperger, as well as other e******n officials around the country who refused to help him overturn the 2020 e******n.

In Arizona, which Biden also won narrowly over Trump, the Legislature passed a law blocking the secretary of state – currently a Democrat – from representing the state on lawsuits dealing with e******ns. That authority now rests with the attorney general, currently a Republican, though that provision is scheduled to sunset on Jan. 2. 2023, when a new attorney general potentially takes office.

Another proposal in Arizona, not enacted so far, would allow the Legislature to basically ignore the result of the state's popular v**e by revoking the secretary of state's certification and permitting the Legislature to select its own slate of p**********l e*****rs.

State Rep. Shawnna Bolick, a Republican who sponsored the legislation, wrote in a Feb. 8 op-ed for the Washington Examiner that "it is time for the Arizona Legislature to regain the power it delegated to certify the e*****rs."

Bolick is now running for the Arizona secretary of state's job, pledging to pursue "e******n integrity."

Republicans are also seeking procedural changes in closely contested states that gave Biden his victory in the E*******l College, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Opponents fear that e******n "audits" in Arizona, Texas and possibly other states could be used to justify changes in e******n systems.

A recent report by a trio of public interest groups – Protect Democracy, States United Democracy Center and Law Forward – described many of these plans as tools to give partisan e******n officials the power to sow "confusion and uncertainty about the results, creating openings for legislators to seize control of e******n outcomes."

Analysts said it's hard to assess how these new rules might play out in future e******ns. Some of the more radical proposals – such as giving legislatures the authority to throw out b****ts or submit their own E*******l College slates – have not been approved by any legislature.

"The worst hasn't happened yet," said Lawrence Norden, director of the E******n Reform Program with the Brennan Center For Justice at the New York University School of Law. "But, of course, if the worst happens, it may be too late to do anything about it."

Stealing the e******n? Already, a rising number of people fear a more intensely protested e******n in 2024.

William Kristol, a conservative commentator who is backing Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe in the Virginia governor's race, said he is very concerned Trump will try to "steal the e******n in 2024."

Speaking just before a debate between McAuliffe and Republican opponent Glenn Youngkin, Kristol said Trump "would be happy" to use new rules to overturn adverse e******n results in key states.

"It's worrisome," Kristol said.

Some analysts said that while the threat is there, it would not be easy to steal an e******n.

For one thing, public opposition would be a factor and could deter lawmakers from pursuing e******n subversion, said Julia Azari, associate professor of political science at Marquette University in Milwaukee.

Some Republicans would likely push back on the idea of overturning an e******n result, just as they did when Trump tried in the past year, Azari said. The courts also could intervene in cases in which v**es were voided or e******ns overturned.

"The courts were pretty steadfast in 2020," Azari said. Courts rejected more than 60 legal challenges to various aspects of v**e counting in 2020.

She added, however, that proposed e******n law changes are "still a concerning thing."

Opponents of the Republican push are advocating for federal e******n laws that would essentially override state rules making it easier to overturn e******ns. They are also calling for public vigilance.

Benjamin Ginsberg, a longtime Republican e******n lawyer, cited polls showing that millions of Republicans believe Trump's claims about the 2020 e******n.

Public officials need to work to convince some of those people that last year's e******ns were fair, and the ones in 2022 and 2024 will be too, Ginsberg said. They also need to be ready to respond if there are more 2020-style protests after future e******ns.

"There are storm clouds looming on the horizon," Ginsberg said. "Be aware and act accordingly."
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Assuming of course that trump will still be a viable choice for a party in massive disarray.

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Oct 16, 2021 09:42:01   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Assuming of course that trump will still be a viable choice for a party in massive disarray.


I think he's a perfect choice. 3/4 of the country couldn't stand him by Nov 2020, and I don't see those number improving any.

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Oct 16, 2021 11:36:09   #
Gatsby
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I think he's a perfect choice. 3/4 of the country couldn't stand him by Nov 2020, and I don't see those number improving any.


Only a fool rates popularity above performance.

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Oct 16, 2021 13:18:44   #
Army
 

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Oct 16, 2021 13:23:10   #
Army
 
Your a C*******t pushing lies .



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Oct 16, 2021 17:56:48   #
okie don
 
slatten49 wrote:
'E******n subversion' accusations: Donald Trump and allies look for new ways to challenge v**es

WASHINGTON – For weeks after E******n Day in 2020, then-President Donald Trump and his allies pressured state legislators and e******n officials to throw out v**es, submit pro-Trump slates to the E*******l College or otherwise overturn the results in enough states to deny victory to Joe Biden.

It didn't work – but opponents fear that Trump and his supporters plan to try again in 2024 with the help of new laws. As the former president ponders another campaign, Trump supporters and some Republican lawmakers in pivotal states are trying to make it easier to challenge and perhaps overturn future e******ns, analysts say, setting the stage for a crisis of democracy after the v**es are tabulated in November 2024.Trump's attacks on the 2020 e******n have triggered demands from some state Republicans to find ways of "overturning e******n results that they don't like," said Jessica Marsden, counsel to an organization called Protect Democracy. "It's not normal partisan warfare," Marsden said. "It's fundamentally at odds with the basic rules of democracy."

In closely contested states like Georgia and Arizona, Trump supporters are pushing rule changes that would essentially give partisan officeholders the power to certify e******n results – or to refuse to certify them, as the case may be.

The goal, opponents say, is to take power away from the kinds of officials who resisted Trump's pressure to change the results in states that Biden won.

Most of the proposals have not been enacted, and changing the results of any e******n would be difficult because of public pressure and court rulings, analysts say. But the rising demands for partisan control of e******n processes is fueling worries that Trump and his allies might try to “steal” losing e******ns in 2022 and 2024, with violent consequences that strike at the heart of democracy.

Rick Hasen, a University of California, Irvine, law professor who hosted a recent symposium on what he calls "e******n subversion," defines the concept as manipulating the rules in ways that would enable "a loser of an e******n being declared a winner."

Hasen also has said he fears the J*** 6 i**********n by Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol was a "dress rehearsal" for 2024 and other future e******ns.

"Ironically, the conduct of former President Donald J. Trump in repeatedly and falsely claiming that the 2020 e******n was s****n has markedly raised the potential for an actual s****n e******n in the United States," Hasen wrote in a research paper.

E******n law changes being pushed by some Republicans in various states stem from Trump's continuing false claims of v***r f***d in 2020.

Many proposals deal with what states do after v**es are counted and before they certify e******ns and submit delegations to the E*******l College – items described as "e******n subversion" or "e******n sabotage."

In a new report, a research organization called the V****g Rights Lab said that "subversion bills have either been enacted or seen significant momentum in key battleground states, including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Wisconsin, and others."

The report said that 17 state legislatures have introduced bills that would allow the legislature or other partisan officials to "exert greater control over the conduct of e******ns."

Sixteen states are considering laws designed to pressure e******n officials, from poll watchers to administrators, by creating new felony and misdemeanor laws to criminalize "even inadvertent, technical noncompliance with e******n rules," the report said.

Megan Lewis, executive director of the V****g Rights Lab, said too many states are "advancing legislation to undermine confidence in our e******ns and weaken the resiliency of our v****g systems."

In Georgia, the Legislature reduced the authority of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who publicly refused Trump's demand to "find" enough v**es for him to prevail over Biden in the state.

A new Georgia law also removed the secretary of state as head of the State E******n Board, which investigates claims of v**ers fraud and other irregularities. The Georgia Legislature now has the authority to appoint a majority of e******n board members and give that body the power to take over the e******n process in certain counties.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, found himself at the center of President Trump's challenges to the 2020 e******n. Trump has endorsed a GOP primary opponent for Raffensperger, as well as other e******n officials around the country who refused to help him overturn the 2020 e******n.

In Arizona, which Biden also won narrowly over Trump, the Legislature passed a law blocking the secretary of state – currently a Democrat – from representing the state on lawsuits dealing with e******ns. That authority now rests with the attorney general, currently a Republican, though that provision is scheduled to sunset on Jan. 2. 2023, when a new attorney general potentially takes office.

Another proposal in Arizona, not enacted so far, would allow the Legislature to basically ignore the result of the state's popular v**e by revoking the secretary of state's certification and permitting the Legislature to select its own slate of p**********l e*****rs.

State Rep. Shawnna Bolick, a Republican who sponsored the legislation, wrote in a Feb. 8 op-ed for the Washington Examiner that "it is time for the Arizona Legislature to regain the power it delegated to certify the e*****rs."

Bolick is now running for the Arizona secretary of state's job, pledging to pursue "e******n integrity."

Republicans are also seeking procedural changes in closely contested states that gave Biden his victory in the E*******l College, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Opponents fear that e******n "audits" in Arizona, Texas and possibly other states could be used to justify changes in e******n systems.

A recent report by a trio of public interest groups – Protect Democracy, States United Democracy Center and Law Forward – described many of these plans as tools to give partisan e******n officials the power to sow "confusion and uncertainty about the results, creating openings for legislators to seize control of e******n outcomes."

Analysts said it's hard to assess how these new rules might play out in future e******ns. Some of the more radical proposals – such as giving legislatures the authority to throw out b****ts or submit their own E*******l College slates – have not been approved by any legislature.

"The worst hasn't happened yet," said Lawrence Norden, director of the E******n Reform Program with the Brennan Center For Justice at the New York University School of Law. "But, of course, if the worst happens, it may be too late to do anything about it."

Stealing the e******n? Already, a rising number of people fear a more intensely protested e******n in 2024.

William Kristol, a conservative commentator who is backing Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe in the Virginia governor's race, said he is very concerned Trump will try to "steal the e******n in 2024."

Speaking just before a debate between McAuliffe and Republican opponent Glenn Youngkin, Kristol said Trump "would be happy" to use new rules to overturn adverse e******n results in key states.

"It's worrisome," Kristol said.

Some analysts said that while the threat is there, it would not be easy to steal an e******n.

For one thing, public opposition would be a factor and could deter lawmakers from pursuing e******n subversion, said Julia Azari, associate professor of political science at Marquette University in Milwaukee.

Some Republicans would likely push back on the idea of overturning an e******n result, just as they did when Trump tried in the past year, Azari said. The courts also could intervene in cases in which v**es were voided or e******ns overturned.

"The courts were pretty steadfast in 2020," Azari said. Courts rejected more than 60 legal challenges to various aspects of v**e counting in 2020.

She added, however, that proposed e******n law changes are "still a concerning thing."

Opponents of the Republican push are advocating for federal e******n laws that would essentially override state rules making it easier to overturn e******ns. They are also calling for public vigilance.

Benjamin Ginsberg, a longtime Republican e******n lawyer, cited polls showing that millions of Republicans believe Trump's claims about the 2020 e******n.

Public officials need to work to convince some of those people that last year's e******ns were fair, and the ones in 2022 and 2024 will be too, Ginsberg said. They also need to be ready to respond if there are more 2020-style protests after future e******ns.

"There are storm clouds looming on the horizon," Ginsberg said. "Be aware and act accordingly."
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It's obvious to anyone who watches the popular and reception joey Bribum Biden gets at ball games, for one, who really won the e******n.
He even admitted the r****d e******n...
Sad...

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Oct 16, 2021 18:32:27   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Gatsby wrote:
Only a fool rates popularity above performance.


Trump is a failed human being, in my opinion.
Trump has neither popularity or performance.
He’s a failed human being.
He lost the house
He lost the senate
He LOST the presidency
Now he lost his NY Golf course
He’s , I’m positive, Planning to lose his azz
with this sworn statement coming up.
How can he possibly swear to tell the t***h, the whole t***h and nothing but the t***h ??
I don’t think court will be in the mood for his side show carnival barker nonsense .
I would love to watch him squirm.
Is that sadistic ?
Or do I just think it’s time for him to pay up for all the people he has screwed or damaged in one way or another.

Justice !

It’s what’s for supper.
Will he plead for mercy ?
Will he claim to be another victim ?
Will he just say
“ I can’t talk about that !”
I volunteer to hold the 22p Spike when they drive it into his ballsack !!!!

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