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Oct 17, 2021 06:43:26   #
American Vet
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
And they would not have attacked, beaten, bear sprayed the police.


Can you say Portland/Seattle/Minneapolis?

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Oct 17, 2021 06:44:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JR-57 wrote:
No. We should have removed American citizens, destroyed the equipment, THEN pulled all the troops.

Turning it to glass should have been done over 20 years ago.


Of these comments.... more or less yes... but the equipment was a real problem.. was given to the Afghan forces over 20 years. It was intended to be used by them to keep the taliban and other terrorist's group at bay.. when the crime bosses in control grabbed the money and ran, the military had no incentive to fight on. If they ever had.. so in the very end, it would have been best to destroy the equipment rather then let it fall into the hands of the Taliban. but by the time the government ran for the luxury and safety that the money bought them , it was no longer feasible to destroy that equipment..

So all this BS leaves the dead Americans and the fortune spent over those 20 years nothing but a bad joke and further strengthens Russia as the major force in the mid east..

Do you continue to think I was ever pleased with the way this developed?? Sure as hell not. I made that clear from day one..
I ranted about talks of withdrawal talks which excluded the government of the occupied country. I railed against putting trust in the actions of our sworn enemy. And mostly I was outraged at the stupidity of how the actual withdrawal was done..

so, you want to know who I blame.. both trump and Biden.... trump was the usual fool, once more giving Putin and Russia what they wanted and that alone will be trouble for years down the road..

Biden,,, I can not find suitable words.. 20 years we made mistake after mistake in Afghanistan and for about 15 of those years we were well warned about the Taliban biding time and building forces as they waited for our withdrawal. which they knew would be coming at some point. and the total corruption of the crime lords we allowed to control the country.. yet letting all the worst of the worst happen as we simply watched..

Darn right it makes me mad.. and not only at trump or only at biden.. Include all the way back to Bush jr..

It seems only the war industry was ever pleased with the fiasco we allowed to happen..

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Oct 17, 2021 06:48:25   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
I measure success not by money, rather by satisfaction is what a person does for a living


Yet earlier you said success is "for most americans means more money".

And thus you again expose yourself as an ELWNJ: You claim to be morally superior to most other people.

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Oct 17, 2021 07:36:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
Yet earlier you said success is "for most americans means more money".

And thus you again expose yourself as an ELWNJ: You claim to be morally superior to most other people.


yes I did... the latest I thought you wanted to know what success was to me personally not the majority.

We all have different views, but the overall view is easy to determan.. Money matters.. for most people it is the determining factor. On OPP for example any posting of intelligence/education/SUCCESS ends up talking about money. both side do this and it must be most consider money to be the standard for success.

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Oct 17, 2021 08:02:56   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
yes I did... the latest I thought you wanted to know what success was to me personally not the majority.

We all have different views, but the overall view is easy to determan.. Money matters.. for most people it is the determining factor. On OPP for example any posting of intelligence/education/SUCCESS ends up talking about money. both side do this and it must be most consider money to be the standard for success.


Money matters - but it is your opinion that "most" consider it the standard of success.

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Oct 17, 2021 09:32:47   #
whole2th
 
permafrost wrote:
but the equipment was a real problem.. was given to the Afghan forces over 20 years. It was intended to be used by them to keep the taliban and other terrorist's group at bay..

so in the very end, it would have been best to destroy the equipment rather then let it fall into the hands of the Taliban.


Consider that leaving working equipment was part of the plan--to support the Taliban.

Too much naivety--just as we may accuse change agents here of being oblivious or stupid--their real intentions overlooked.

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Oct 17, 2021 14:18:31   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
American Vet wrote:
Money matters - but it is your opinion that "most" consider it the standard of success.


Um...

Duh?

If you're living in poverty, it affects your happiness as well as your health.

Not a difficult concept .

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Oct 17, 2021 14:22:44   #
American Vet
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Um...

Duh?

If you're living in poverty, it affects your happiness as well as your health.

Not a difficult concept .


Duh?

Who said anything about poverty?

And, there are some people who choose to "live in poverty" and say they are quite happy.

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Oct 17, 2021 22:38:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
An honest American became president and the oval office was cleaned of the putrid former occupant..


***An honest American became president and the oval office was cleaned of the putrid former occupant.
>>>You really have a piss poor record when it comes to making statements about either biden or Trump. Trump was a better President in any single month then biden has been in 9 whole months of total dysfunction and destructive, addle brained ideas and directives. And President Trump did more good in any single month then biden did in his whole crooked career. FACT.

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Oct 18, 2021 09:16:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***An honest American became president and the oval office was cleaned of the putrid former occupant.
>>>You really have a piss poor record when it comes to making statements about either biden or Trump. Trump was a better President in any single month then biden has been in 9 whole months of total dysfunction and destructive, addle brained ideas and directives. And President Trump did more good in any single month then biden did in his whole crooked career. FACT.


Trump was the worst president in the history of America. By far...

Biden is have a rough time getting all the duck in a row during the recovery, but it is moving along.. the new hurdle is probably the sticks which will add more complications to the already awesome pile. but it will get done because our man takes responsibility and will get the job done..

A truly good man is Joe Biden..



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Oct 18, 2021 09:17:58   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
Yet earlier you said success is "for most americans means more money".

And thus you again expose yourself as an ELWNJ: You claim to be morally superior to most other people.


Morally superior.. no, not to all people. Only to trump supporters..

But that is a given..

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Oct 18, 2021 09:21:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
whole2th wrote:
Consider that leaving working equipment was part of the plan--to support the Taliban.

Too much naivety--just as we may accuse change agents here of being oblivious or stupid--their real intentions overlooked.


Oh. lord, you are insane..

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Oct 18, 2021 09:41:00   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
Morally superior.. no, not to all people. Only to trump supporters..

But that is a given..


Zbigniew Brzezinski formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in 1970’s, and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter later became President, & ZB was made Carter's National Security Adviser. ZB took off where CFR/Trilat/Bilderberger/ Republican Kissinger left off.

Zbigniew Brzezinski – Following are quotes from his book 'Between Two Ages' (1970)
“Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner passive man and a victory of reason over belief… and has served to stir the mind and to mobilize human energies purposefully ” (p.72)
Referring to the rivalry between the USSR and the United States – “The eventual outcome of the competition is however, foreordained, given the inherent superiority of the c*******t system.” (pp.146,147)
“This system to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” - Insider, Professor Carroll Quigley – (Tragedy and Hope, p. 324)

A great book on CFR/NWO agenda – ‘Descent into S***ery’ by Des Griffin at Amazon

For those that haven't checked out this conservative/t***h telling network;
Amazing; the news not covered on all the other networks, and many conservatives have not discovered OAN yet.
As long as we have a liberal/Left Wing controlled media there will be people who never hear the conservative perspective, or the blacked out news.
It is on an odd ball TV channel (347) on Dish
OAN - One America Network.
Also a Web site;
https://www.oann.com/

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Oct 18, 2021 11:05:44   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump was the worst president in the history of America. By far...

Biden is have a rough time getting all the duck in a row during the recovery, but it is moving along.. the new hurdle is probably the sticks which will add more complications to the already awesome pile. but it will get done because our man takes responsibility and will get the job done..

A truly good man is Joe Biden..


Since Trump did not have anything to do with the manufacture or importation (he stopped incoming flights from China in January 2020, and all other countries in March, 2020) of C****-**, and on the advice of Doctors F***i and Birx; closed down the nation's businesses except for "essential workers", so the Jobs Lost and the amount of people that died were unfortunate, yet unavoidable due to the nature of a "novel c****av***s" that was highly contagious ( and deadly for the elderly and health-c*********d) that scientists were trying to identify and get a v*****e and treatments developed for.

The C****-** deaths for 2021 have already exceeded those for 2020 by the way.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2021/10/06/us-c****-**-deaths-for-2021-surpass-toll-from-2020/?sh=52bfa7036cc2

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Oct 18, 2021 11:06:33   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Morally superior.. no, not to all people. Only to trump supporters..

But that is a given..


Mindless rant posted by a fool.

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