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Those $4.5 trillion ‘infrastructure’ and ‘reconciliation’ bills are far more radical and dangerous than you think
Oct 9, 2021 19:29:32   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Until recently, I thought that both the “bipartisan” $1 trillion “infrastructure”, and the “progressive” Democrat $3.5 trillion “reconciliation” packages were just obscenely bloated versions of previous “stimulus” spending we had with Obama and Trump.

Now I know that both bills are far more radical and dangerous. They are sponsored by people who h**e America’s large, prosperous, and politically independent middle class. These “woke” Democrats are determined to break us.

The premise of both bills is that by enjoying safe and comfortable lifestyles, we are causing floods, fires, and droughts that are ruining the planet. They say this is because we are burning too much f****l f**l. The goal of both bills is to cut America’s f****l f**l use in half during the next nine years. If these bills become law, the federal government will heavily fine every power company that does not systematically shut down most of its coal, oil, and natural gas power plants by then. It would also pay billions as bribes to companies to build and use new solar panels and wind turbines instead.

The federal government would also pay people, businesses, and schools to buy electric cars, trucks, and buses. It would also pay for more solar panels.

This would permanently end prosperity in America. Solar panels and wind turbines cannot power a modern economy. The electricity they generate is too weak, intermittent, unpredictable, and unreliable. Solar and wind energy is often wasted. It cannot be stored when not needed. It saves little if any f****l f**l. That is because backup generators must always be running to give the grid steady power whenever the wind stops, night falls, or a cloud goes by.

Nuclear power plants are a reliable, cost-effective alternative to f****l f**ls. They provide 71% of the electricity in France. Of course, neither bill promotes new nuclear power plants.

If both bills pass, power companies will be in an impossible situation. If they keep f****l f**l plants to provide reliable power, they will pay big fines and pass that cost to their customers. Everything we buy will then cost more. If power companies comply and rely on unreliable solar panels and wind turbines, frequent power failures will become normal.

People with electric cars, trucks, and buses will often find it difficult or impossible to charge them. As in the days before railroads and steamships, every long trip will be difficult and uncertain.

Americans will again walk or ride horses or bicycles in the heat, the cold, and the rain. Homes, schools, and businesses will again be cold in the winter and hot in the summer. The comfortable, middle-class American Dream will be gone for all but the rich.

Germany and Denmark already have invested heavily in solar panels and wind turbines. They have the highest electric rates in Europe. They avoided disaster only by buying expensive nuclear electricity from France, and natural gas from Russia.

Yet in spite of this, “progressive” Democrats have good reasons to think they will get the support and v**es needed to pass these bills.

Their union teachers and professors made the last three generations of students virtually illiterate in basic science. Few Americans today know that c*****e c****ed to create an Ice Age 10,000 years ago and that the earth has warmed ever since. They know nothing about how we convert the energy of spinning wheels or sunlight into electricity. They never had science fairs. They never did experiments to see how many solar panels and wind turbines it takes to power a microwave or washing machine. They know nothing of reputable scientists like Michael Shellenberger, author of Apocalypse Never. Shellenberger makes a persuasive case that man-made c*****e c****e is “slight and manageable” and that “climate alarmists” do more harm than good.

Democrats carefully designed both massive spending packages to bribe every interest group they need to get elected and re-elected next year. Their combined $4.5 trillion spending plan includes $18 billion for homeowners, $13.5 billion for vehicle charging stations, $5 billion for “free” electric firetrucks and school buses, $27.5 billion for “green” energy “loans” that don’t get paid back. The evillest spending is roughly $6 billion paid to schools, colleges, and “community organizers” for “climate justice” programs.” These are pure propaganda campaigns to promote their f**e science and to elect Democrats who support this radical agenda.

Finally, Democrats know that their allies in the media will scare v**ers into supporting this program. Every day they will falsely report that every hurricane, tornado, heavy rain, drought, and brush fire in America is caused by “c*****e c****e.” They will falsely blame anyone who opposes these spending packages as being responsible for every death and loss.

Will conservative Americans wake up and fight back in time to stop this?

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Oct 9, 2021 20:10:10   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
Until recently, I thought that both the “bipartisan” $1 trillion “infrastructure”, and the “progressive” Democrat $3.5 trillion “reconciliation” packages were just obscenely bloated versions of previous “stimulus” spending we had with Obama and Trump.

Now I know that both bills are far more radical and dangerous. They are sponsored by people who h**e America’s large, prosperous, and politically independent middle class. These “woke” Democrats are determined to break us.

The premise of both bills is that by enjoying safe and comfortable lifestyles, we are causing floods, fires, and droughts that are ruining the planet. They say this is because we are burning too much f****l f**l. The goal of both bills is to cut America’s f****l f**l use in half during the next nine years. If these bills become law, the federal government will heavily fine every power company that does not systematically shut down most of its coal, oil, and natural gas power plants by then. It would also pay billions as bribes to companies to build and use new solar panels and wind turbines instead.

The federal government would also pay people, businesses, and schools to buy electric cars, trucks, and buses. It would also pay for more solar panels.

This would permanently end prosperity in America. Solar panels and wind turbines cannot power a modern economy. The electricity they generate is too weak, intermittent, unpredictable, and unreliable. Solar and wind energy is often wasted. It cannot be stored when not needed. It saves little if any f****l f**l. That is because backup generators must always be running to give the grid steady power whenever the wind stops, night falls, or a cloud goes by.

Nuclear power plants are a reliable, cost-effective alternative to f****l f**ls. They provide 71% of the electricity in France. Of course, neither bill promotes new nuclear power plants.

If both bills pass, power companies will be in an impossible situation. If they keep f****l f**l plants to provide reliable power, they will pay big fines and pass that cost to their customers. Everything we buy will then cost more. If power companies comply and rely on unreliable solar panels and wind turbines, frequent power failures will become normal.

People with electric cars, trucks, and buses will often find it difficult or impossible to charge them. As in the days before railroads and steamships, every long trip will be difficult and uncertain.

Americans will again walk or ride horses or bicycles in the heat, the cold, and the rain. Homes, schools, and businesses will again be cold in the winter and hot in the summer. The comfortable, middle-class American Dream will be gone for all but the rich.

Germany and Denmark already have invested heavily in solar panels and wind turbines. They have the highest electric rates in Europe. They avoided disaster only by buying expensive nuclear electricity from France, and natural gas from Russia.

Yet in spite of this, “progressive” Democrats have good reasons to think they will get the support and v**es needed to pass these bills.

Their union teachers and professors made the last three generations of students virtually illiterate in basic science. Few Americans today know that c*****e c****ed to create an Ice Age 10,000 years ago and that the earth has warmed ever since. They know nothing about how we convert the energy of spinning wheels or sunlight into electricity. They never had science fairs. They never did experiments to see how many solar panels and wind turbines it takes to power a microwave or washing machine. They know nothing of reputable scientists like Michael Shellenberger, author of Apocalypse Never. Shellenberger makes a persuasive case that man-made c*****e c****e is “slight and manageable” and that “climate alarmists” do more harm than good.

Democrats carefully designed both massive spending packages to bribe every interest group they need to get elected and re-elected next year. Their combined $4.5 trillion spending plan includes $18 billion for homeowners, $13.5 billion for vehicle charging stations, $5 billion for “free” electric firetrucks and school buses, $27.5 billion for “green” energy “loans” that don’t get paid back. The evillest spending is roughly $6 billion paid to schools, colleges, and “community organizers” for “climate justice” programs.” These are pure propaganda campaigns to promote their f**e science and to elect Democrats who support this radical agenda.

Finally, Democrats know that their allies in the media will scare v**ers into supporting this program. Every day they will falsely report that every hurricane, tornado, heavy rain, drought, and brush fire in America is caused by “c*****e c****e.” They will falsely blame anyone who opposes these spending packages as being responsible for every death and loss.

Will conservative Americans wake up and fight back in time to stop this?
Until recently, I thought that both the “bipartisa... (show quote)



They might wake up !
But what is the Republican Plan ????
Is there a hidden Republican plan somewhere deep in the Republican Party that very few people are aware of.
Or is it just
Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein !……….?

Not much of a Plan .
But they do want to be in charge, puzzling , No ???

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Oct 9, 2021 21:26:59   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
We you overgrown wuss. We don’t need no stinking plan. We need government to get out of the way. Good lord how do people like you get through a day without someone telling you what you can and can’t do?

Milosia2 wrote:
They might wake up !
But what is the Republican Plan ????
Is there a hidden Republican plan somewhere deep in the Republican Party that very few people are aware of.
Or is it just
Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein !……….?

Not much of a Plan .
But they do want to be in charge, puzzling , No ???

Reply
 
 
Oct 9, 2021 22:20:50   #
skyrider
 
Milosia2 wrote:
They might wake up !
But what is the Republican Plan ????
Is there a hidden Republican plan somewhere deep in the Republican Party that very few people are aware of.
Or is it just
Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein ! Nein !……….?

Not much of a Plan .
But they do want to be in charge, puzzling , No ???


The road to Hell is paved with Apathy.

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Oct 10, 2021 08:05:41   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
JFlorio wrote:
We you overgrown wuss. We don’t need no stinking plan. We need government to get out of the way. Good lord how do people like you get through a day without someone telling you what you can and can’t do?


They don't. One of the basic differences between a Liberal and Conservative is that Progressive Liberals are not comfortable with managing their own affairs, always preferring that someone else take responsibility. They naturally dislike those of us who do manage our own lives and feel comfortable doing so. I suppose it makes them jealous or something; they have a natural antipathy for anyone who does not worship at the altar of AUTHORITY and who does not believe that the answer to everything is having an all-powerful, all-knowing (but somehow, always beneficent) government apparatchik make a rule for everyone to follow. People who don't require their noses and butts wiped from cradle to grave seem a******l to the typical Progressive. Those who find ways of solving a problem that don't require throwing large amounts of someone else's money at it repel the average Progressive Hobbit fart sniffer.

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Oct 10, 2021 09:41:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You are spot on. Never seen people (progressives) who believe the answers to every problem in their lives should be made by a bunch of corrupt overpaid suits whose own self interest is paramount.
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
They don't. One of the basic differences between a Liberal and Conservative is that Progressive Liberals are not comfortable with managing their own affairs, always preferring that someone else take responsibility. They naturally dislike those of us who do manage our own lives and feel comfortable doing so. I suppose it makes them jealous or something; they have a natural antipathy for anyone who does not worship at the altar of AUTHORITY and who does not believe that the answer to everything is having an all-powerful, all-knowing (but somehow, always beneficent) government apparatchik make a rule for everyone to follow. People who don't require their noses and butts wiped from cradle to grave seem a******l to the typical Progressive. Those who find ways of solving a problem that don't require throwing large amounts of someone else's money at it repel the average Progressive Hobbit fart sniffer.
They don't. One of the basic differences between a... (show quote)

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Oct 10, 2021 16:30:55   #
Bassman65
 
Parky60 wrote:
Until recently, I thought that both the “bipartisan” $1 trillion “infrastructure”, and the “progressive” Democrat $3.5 trillion “reconciliation” packages were just obscenely bloated versions of previous “stimulus” spending we had with Obama and Trump.

Now I know that both bills are far more radical and dangerous. They are sponsored by people who h**e America’s large, prosperous, and politically independent middle class. These “woke” Democrats are determined to break us.

The premise of both bills is that by enjoying safe and comfortable lifestyles, we are causing floods, fires, and droughts that are ruining the planet. They say this is because we are burning too much f****l f**l. The goal of both bills is to cut America’s f****l f**l use in half during the next nine years. If these bills become law, the federal government will heavily fine every power company that does not systematically shut down most of its coal, oil, and natural gas power plants by then. It would also pay billions as bribes to companies to build and use new solar panels and wind turbines instead.

The federal government would also pay people, businesses, and schools to buy electric cars, trucks, and buses. It would also pay for more solar panels.

This would permanently end prosperity in America. Solar panels and wind turbines cannot power a modern economy. The electricity they generate is too weak, intermittent, unpredictable, and unreliable. Solar and wind energy is often wasted. It cannot be stored when not needed. It saves little if any f****l f**l. That is because backup generators must always be running to give the grid steady power whenever the wind stops, night falls, or a cloud goes by.

Nuclear power plants are a reliable, cost-effective alternative to f****l f**ls. They provide 71% of the electricity in France. Of course, neither bill promotes new nuclear power plants.

If both bills pass, power companies will be in an impossible situation. If they keep f****l f**l plants to provide reliable power, they will pay big fines and pass that cost to their customers. Everything we buy will then cost more. If power companies comply and rely on unreliable solar panels and wind turbines, frequent power failures will become normal.

People with electric cars, trucks, and buses will often find it difficult or impossible to charge them. As in the days before railroads and steamships, every long trip will be difficult and uncertain.

Americans will again walk or ride horses or bicycles in the heat, the cold, and the rain. Homes, schools, and businesses will again be cold in the winter and hot in the summer. The comfortable, middle-class American Dream will be gone for all but the rich.

Germany and Denmark already have invested heavily in solar panels and wind turbines. They have the highest electric rates in Europe. They avoided disaster only by buying expensive nuclear electricity from France, and natural gas from Russia.

Yet in spite of this, “progressive” Democrats have good reasons to think they will get the support and v**es needed to pass these bills.

Their union teachers and professors made the last three generations of students virtually illiterate in basic science. Few Americans today know that c*****e c****ed to create an Ice Age 10,000 years ago and that the earth has warmed ever since. They know nothing about how we convert the energy of spinning wheels or sunlight into electricity. They never had science fairs. They never did experiments to see how many solar panels and wind turbines it takes to power a microwave or washing machine. They know nothing of reputable scientists like Michael Shellenberger, author of Apocalypse Never. Shellenberger makes a persuasive case that man-made c*****e c****e is “slight and manageable” and that “climate alarmists” do more harm than good.

Democrats carefully designed both massive spending packages to bribe every interest group they need to get elected and re-elected next year. Their combined $4.5 trillion spending plan includes $18 billion for homeowners, $13.5 billion for vehicle charging stations, $5 billion for “free” electric firetrucks and school buses, $27.5 billion for “green” energy “loans” that don’t get paid back. The evillest spending is roughly $6 billion paid to schools, colleges, and “community organizers” for “climate justice” programs.” These are pure propaganda campaigns to promote their f**e science and to elect Democrats who support this radical agenda.

Finally, Democrats know that their allies in the media will scare v**ers into supporting this program. Every day they will falsely report that every hurricane, tornado, heavy rain, drought, and brush fire in America is caused by “c*****e c****e.” They will falsely blame anyone who opposes these spending packages as being responsible for every death and loss.

Will conservative Americans wake up and fight back in time to stop this?
Until recently, I thought that both the “bipartisa... (show quote)
This is part of the plan I think!

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