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Sep 19, 2014 09:52:03   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Only with a "United Voice" will we be heard.

Issue by issue we need to agree on what is best for America.

Issue by issue on this site we need to seek agreement.

If we fail here with just a few how can there ever be hope for agreement on a large scale?

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Sep 19, 2014 10:00:16   #
robert66
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Only with a "United Voice" will we be heard.

Issue by issue we need to agree on what is best for America.

Issue by issue on this site we need to seek agreement.

If we fail here with just a few how can there ever be hope for agreement on a large scale?


Since agreement is impossible there is something else that is possible , compromise. That we can do

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Sep 19, 2014 10:10:49   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Only with a "United Voice" will we be heard.

Issue by issue we need to agree on what is best for America.

Issue by issue on this site we need to seek agreement.

If we fail here with just a few how can there ever be hope for agreement on a large scale?


We cannot decide what is "Best" for America until we decide what direction we want the country to go. The division is along the lines of Do we want the country to go back to the Constitution and the freedoms, given by God, that the Constitution says the government cannot take away from us? Or do we want the Constitution to be reinterpreted every time we don't get our "Fair share" until the country has become another collectivist state, and NO ONE has a fair share of anything except poverty?

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Sep 19, 2014 10:18:50   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
robert66 wrote:
Since agreement is impossible there is something else that is possible , compromise. That we can do


robert66-to a liberal compromise means doing things his/her way. If compromise is possible why do we have an inert Senate ? Why is Harry Reid allowed to block every bill that is not authored or sponsored by a democrat ? What compromise ? The only way is to clean house from top to bottom and start over. Think that will happen as long as millions are receiving hand-outs from the very same people who we need to get rid of? Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 19, 2014 10:23:25   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
robert66 wrote:
Since agreement is impossible there is something else that is possible , compromise. That we can do


Floyd-by allowing Obama to circumvent the law time after time the democrats in power have shown that they place party ahead of country.
So how do you propose to reach agreement, which would necessitate that this trend be reversed ,without replacing the people involved ? Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 19, 2014 10:34:57   #
robert66
 
Ricko wrote:
robert66-to a liberal compromise means doing things his/her way. If compromise is possible why do we have an inert Senate ? Why is Harry Reid allowed to block every bill that is not authored or sponsored by a democrat ? What compromise ? The only way is to clean house from top to bottom and start over. Think that will happen as long as millions are receiving hand-outs from the very same people who we need to get rid of? Good Luck America !!!


You have just displayed the attitude that impairs or prevents the ability to compromise. Harry Reid thinks the other side won't compromise so neither will he. The president said that he wouldn't compromise on certain parts of the ACA so the other side adopted an "F" you on anything else. It looks like the president is compromising now because he certainly did not want to reverse the pulling out of the middle east which is what he is doing now. Tea party candidates ran on "no compromise" , at least many of them did. Old guys that are democrat or republican may seem like they don't compromise but one thing these old guys know for sure, if you don't compromise you'll won't get anywhere. One side or the other needs to take it on the chin , show that they can compromise, and get things moving. Both sides are certainly at fault but I am definitely biased because when I saw tea party candidates running on a " no compromise " agenda and then getting elected I knew it was trouble.

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Sep 19, 2014 10:51:48   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ricko wrote:
robert66-to a liberal compromise means doing things his/her way. If compromise is possible why do we have an inert Senate ? Why is Harry Reid allowed to block every bill that is not authored or sponsored by a democrat ? What compromise ? The only way is to clean house from top to bottom and start over. Think that will happen as long as millions are receiving hand-outs from the very same people who we need to get rid of? Good Luck America !!!


Thank you for showing your ignorance once again :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 19, 2014 11:47:50   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Ultimately it is the president who sets the tone on compromise.
I see little value in regurgitating early Obama course F-ups but, he set the tone of no compromise with Obama Care. The highest tax hike ever. If I was a House Member I would be highly leery of anyone using these kinds of tactics against the very arm of government task with the spending pace of the nation.

Throw in all the back room B.S. of the Senate, the IRS,the DOJ, the EPA and literally every office of government run by Obama-bots and you have damn good reason for no compromise. Law breaking is nothing new in government but being done on such a large scale is. Feckless as they are it's a seriously good thing the House has blocked even more lawless activities pouring out of this administration's White House.
Obama and minions have Blitzkrieg'd every office of our government at such a fast pace it's little wonder why this has been the most closed door presidency ever. Based on time required in such a take over and then orchestrate all the ill legal activities alone would leave little time for explanations.

Now throw in all the ill legal activities done by all the a fore mentioned offices and hell yes, block any and all else coming down the pike.
I share many ideals of the left but these people are robbers
and thief's. They have successfully robbed the nation of what was left of a fairly elected government by just the IRS's ill legal activities alone. Everyone has the right to be heard. The silencing of selected opposition groups is obvious and should cause great alarm by all sides.

The list goes on and on. Far to lengthy to trod threw. The House is doing it's job. Thank god.
"United voice" yah right. Lets do that while whats left of the Republic is sacked.

Compromise. Hell no. That window is closed and not by the right. Being aligned to the middle politically has become ever
more difficult. Time for naval gazing is over. Stop stealing and we all will talk.

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Sep 19, 2014 17:30:01   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
robert66 wrote:
You have just displayed the attitude that impairs or prevents the ability to compromise. Harry Reid thinks the other side won't compromise so neither will he. The president said that he wouldn't compromise on certain parts of the ACA so the other side adopted an "F" you on anything else. It looks like the president is compromising now because he certainly did not want to reverse the pulling out of the middle east which is what he is doing now. Tea party candidates ran on "no compromise" , at least many of them did. Old guys that are democrat or republican may seem like they don't compromise but one thing these old guys know for sure, if you don't compromise you'll won't get anywhere. One side or the other needs to take it on the chin , show that they can compromise, and get things moving. Both sides are certainly at fault but I am definitely biased because when I saw tea party candidates running on a " no compromise " agenda and then getting elected I knew it was trouble.
You have just displayed the attitude that impairs ... (show quote)


robert66-the president ignored his military commanders , lost IRAQ and enabled ISIS to expand to what it is now. He is not compromising, merely trying to save his inept rear end. The democrats control 2/3 of government. Since when does 1/3 over-ride the majority ? Its not about compromise but about the democrats-my way or the highway. The House of representatives has been busy passing bill after bill and Harry Reid will not take them up in the Senate. What can the House do about ? Nothing !!!! We have and inept president and and inert Senate and nothing will happen until that situation changes. Your idol needs to resign before he totally destroys this country. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that they elected an empty suit and," you get what you pay for." Now the media is beginning to see the light. It is too bad some of you die hard liberals cannot admit you erred. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 19, 2014 17:32:40   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Btfkr wrote:
Thank you for showing your ignorance once again :thumbup: :thumbup:


Btfkr-I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. Go play with your legos. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 19, 2014 19:16:48   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ricko wrote:
Btfkr-I have forgotten more than you will ever learn. Go play with your legos. Good Luck America !!!



Well Rick-O ~~ it is certainly obvious you have forgotten a lot (if you even knew much in the first place). Yup, I'll give that much to ya. :XD: :XD:

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Sep 19, 2014 19:23:59   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Ricko wrote:
robert66-the president ignored his military commanders , lost IRAQ and enabled ISIS to expand to what it is now. He is not compromising, merely trying to save his inept rear end. The democrats control 2/3 of government. Since when does 1/3 over-ride the majority ? Its not about compromise but about the democrats-my way or the highway. The House of representatives has been busy passing bill after bill and Harry Reid will not take them up in the Senate. What can the House do about ? Nothing !!!! We have and inept president and and inert Senate and nothing will happen until that situation changes. Your idol needs to resign before he totally destroys this country. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that they elected an empty suit and," you get what you pay for." Now the media is beginning to see the light. It is too bad some of you die hard liberals cannot admit you erred. Good Luck America !!!
robert66-the president ignored his military comman... (show quote)



And it is too bad you die hard baggers cannot admit that there would not be ISIS if W and his band of marauding neocon i***t-ollas hadn't invaded Iraq on false pretenses in the first place :thumbup: :P Not to mention all the things that the Boner is blocking in the House. Dems did nothing but compromise all through W's years and the beginning of Obama's years. It is the r's that pass crap in the House with no compromise that will not pass the Senate so why even waste time bringing them to the floor? Maybe you hear things and just FORGET to think?

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Sep 19, 2014 19:42:12   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Btfkr wrote:
Thank you for showing your ignorance once again :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thanks for showing your ignorance again and again! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 19, 2014 19:45:28   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Btfkr wrote:
And it is too bad you die hard baggers cannot admit that there would not be ISIS if W and his band of marauding neocon i***t-ollas hadn't invaded Iraq on false pretenses in the first place :thumbup: :P Not to mention all the things that the Boner is blocking in the House. Dems did nothing but compromise all through W's years and the beginning of Obama's years. It is the r's that pass crap in the House with no compromise that will not pass the Senate so why even waste time bringing them to the floor? Maybe you hear things and just FORGET to think?
And it is too bad you die hard baggers cannot admi... (show quote)


Lying piece of crap if King O knew wtf he was doing or even if he don't you surround yourself with those that do know and freakin listen...but not this guy...why...just ask yourself why!

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Sep 19, 2014 20:41:40   #
robert66
 
Ricko wrote:
robert66-the president ignored his military commanders , lost IRAQ and enabled ISIS to expand to what it is now. He is not compromising, merely trying to save his inept rear end. The democrats control 2/3 of government. Since when does 1/3 over-ride the majority ? Its not about compromise but about the democrats-my way or the highway. The House of representatives has been busy passing bill after bill and Harry Reid will not take them up in the Senate. What can the House do about ? Nothing !!!! We have and inept president and and inert Senate and nothing will happen until that situation changes. Your idol needs to resign before he totally destroys this country. The American people are beginning to wake up to the fact that they elected an empty suit and," you get what you pay for." Now the media is beginning to see the light. It is too bad some of you die hard liberals cannot admit you erred. Good Luck America !!!
robert66-the president ignored his military comman... (show quote)


We have definitely seen the pubs hold up plenty. Is there a problem with the bills the house wants to pass? If there is are they willing to adjust them? We all heard about the ridiculous amount of times they wanted to pass bills to dismantle the ACA. The no compromise on Obama's part was that he and the senate would stop anything that tried to wreck the law. In the end they did give in to the mandate delay. I know , you're going to say some crap about doing it for mid term e******ns but nonetheless they got the delay and then brought a lawsuit because of it. Is this cooperating ? The supposed jobs bill the pubs wanted was pretty much just some more tax breaks for corporations and wealthy people. They knew it wouldn't make it. I know there has been obstruction on the other side as well. The country in reality is not going down the tubes, the president is not going to resign and nothing is going to come from all the bullish*t scandals, IRS , B******i etc. These attempts to smear the president surely are costing millions of dollars and taking away from getting productive accomplishments. None of this stuff is okay or warranted. Why do you say the president ignores the military advisors? From the article posted on here yesterday? Read a little more carefully and you will see the article is no more than speculation with no current military advisors making statements. These stories are intended to mislead as are others from progressive posters . The reason I resist conservative viewpoints is because they are all negative and seek to tear down the government , not strengthen it.

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