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Another really good reason we need Medicare for All: Ron DeSantis will h**e it
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Sep 22, 2021 20:18:56   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
melloncolley wrote:
Really! You do not “get-it”. Ron DeSantis is a great governor. Wish we had him in Massachusetts.


So does Florida !!!!!

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Sep 22, 2021 20:29:51   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
You nor anyone else law that is under 64 deserves Medicare! It’s for those that have worked their whole lives to get it!! Stick to paying for your insurance like the rest of us or go on welfare like the rest of you la y no good zombies!


Au Contrare, mon frer.
If you were born a citizen of this country you have by birthrights the enhancements of being a Citizen of the United States. Contrary to what your handlers on the right keep telling you.
If you were to sell your citizenship today, what would it be worth ?
There is money for you in a bank someplace that you’ll probably never see.
But somebody will.
They only keep telling you you’re worthless and weak.
Some buy it, I don’t.
I am a citizen and a demand my birthrights !
The wealth in this country should not be divided up among only a few citizens.
If you are a citizen, where’s your stuff ???????
The we the people I keep coming in contact with have already surrendered.
Brainwashed by Authoritarians.

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Sep 23, 2021 03:05:38   #
woodguru
 
wtroxell wrote:
Have you ever been part of a government run health system? I have....Canadia, Singapore and Australia. Although there are a few good things ($40 vasectomy) the bad far outweighs them. I've worked hard, I am happy to pay for private insurance, in exchange for superior quality of services. It's up to you to take care of yourself, not me. Ever been to the VA or Post Office?


Most people paying for their quality healthcare do not know how much is being subsidized by the government, it's on a sliding scale.

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Sep 23, 2021 03:08:43   #
woodguru
 
melloncolley wrote:
Really! You do not “get-it”. Ron DeSantis is a great governor. Wish we had him in Massachusetts.


And he and Florida have done such a marvelous job with C***d...if that means C***d is winning.

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Sep 23, 2021 18:12:05   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I’ll be much happier here once we root out all N**is, neo N**is, f*****ts and generally deplorables !!!


Good luck

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Sep 23, 2021 19:23:23   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Au Contrare, mon frer.
If you were born a citizen of this country you have by birthrights the enhancements of being a Citizen of the United States. Contrary to what your handlers on the right keep telling you.
If you were to sell your citizenship today, what would it be worth ?
There is money for you in a bank someplace that you’ll probably never see.
But somebody will.
They only keep telling you you’re worthless and weak.
Some buy it, I don’t.
I am a citizen and a demand my birthrights !
The wealth in this country should not be divided up among only a few citizens.
If you are a citizen, where’s your stuff ???????
The we the people I keep coming in contact with have already surrendered.
Brainwashed by Authoritarians.
Au Contrare, mon frer. br If you were born a citiz... (show quote)


You demand other people's property. Somebody has a little more than you, so it is your right to demand that the government steal it from them and give it to you.

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Sep 23, 2021 22:11:22   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
You nor anyone else law that is under 64 deserves Medicare! It’s for those that have worked their whole lives to get it!! Stick to paying for your insurance like the rest of us or go on welfare like the rest of you la y no good zombies!


Yep, still singing all their favorite songs.

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Sep 23, 2021 22:19:20   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
You demand other people's property. Somebody has a little more than you, so it is your right to demand that the government steal it from them and give it to you.


After 240 years , what has the working classes got to show for
all of their hard work ?
What happened all of your Legacy Wealth. Handed down generation to generation.
Do you today have a right to anything besides Death and Taxes ?
How do you really feel about how this all wound up ?
Are you now, no better off than 240 years ago ?
Who has been taking your stuff is a better question.

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Sep 23, 2021 22:27:35   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
You demand other people's property. Somebody has a little more than you, so it is your right to demand that the government steal it from them and give it to you.


I demand no such thing. It’s just such a struggle trying to keep my own stuff from being taken away. Not by theft but by politics.

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Sep 24, 2021 19:55:24   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
After 240 years , what has the working classes got to show for
all of their hard work ?
What happened all of your Legacy Wealth. Handed down generation to generation.
Do you today have a right to anything besides Death and Taxes ?
How do you really feel about how this all wound up ?
Are you now, no better off than 240 years ago ?
Who has been taking your stuff is a better question.


I see you are into history. I didn't think you had it in you. 240 years is a lot to talk about. I hesitate to continue this, because in the past you have bailed out on me. Just let me know if you are up for a real conversation on 240 years of class warfare.

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Sep 24, 2021 20:58:57   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Milosia2 wrote:
No, DeSantis isn't really spreading C***D just to boost profits. He's doing it because he wants to be president

By THOM HARTMANN

This article was produced by Economy for All, a project of the Independent Media Institute.

It has to be a scurrilous lie. Seriously: nobody is that evil.

Although it is the sort of thing that we've come to expect, because our unique-in-the-world, for-profit health insurance system leaves Americans financially vulnerable to sickness but offers huge profits to companies and CEOs in the system.

Some cynical people are suggesting that the reason Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, is forcing teachers and children to sit for hours every day in classrooms with unmasked children is because he wants them all to get infected with C***D … to make money for a friend of his.

Seriously. There's that theory out there, and it's almost too evil to believe it could be true.


That DeSantis is intentionally trying to expose children, families and public school teachers to a deadly disease simply because it'll make a few million extra dollars for his largest donor, billionaire Ken Griffin, whose fund is one of the biggest stockholders in the company that makes the only available monoclonal antibody drug approved to treat C***D.

And, of course, it might also take out a few hundred unionized teachers, a bonus in any Republican's book.

But it can't be true that DeSantis is spreading disease just to goose health care profits, can it?

After all, when the federal government offered to give Florida billions of dollars to expand its Medicaid program to provide free health care for the state's working poor, then-Gov Rick Scott and later Gov. DeSantis said a firm "no."

Even though all that money coming into the state to pay for health care could have goosed up the profits of any number of hospitals and health operations Griffin could invest in, DeSantis still refused to expand Medicaid statewide. (He did eventually sign an expansion of Medicaid for new moms, but it's a pittance and arguably a shout-out to the forced-birth crowd.)

Far more likely is that DeSantis just wants to win the Republican primary for president in 2024 and thinks having the Trump "base" and Fox "News" on his side will get him there.

After all, having hundreds of thousands of Floridians suffer disability or die — bankrupting family after family — just to score points with Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson demonstrates all the manly cred he'll need. Right?

It's another danger of having a for-profit health insurance system that doesn't cover everybody, so when a corrupt governor like DeSantis uses death and disease for political manipulation families end up ill, broke and desperate — as are millions of American families right now.

Wh**ever's going on with DeSantis, we're not Brazil and we really do need to get past behaving like a third-world country where the boss-man plays games with deadly diseases for political gain.

The best way to do that is to finally join pretty much every other developed country in the world and put into place a single-payer health care system like Medicare for All.
No, DeSantis isn't really spreading C***D just to ... (show quote)


” deadly disease” with an average recovery rate of 97.6%.

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