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Sep 18, 2021 13:15:33   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, I didn't think you understood what defunding is.


" But what I DO know for certain is that the ONLY two cities in California that rank in the top 20 for crime are led by Republican mayors. "

I question that. At least as far as the two most dangerous cities in California to live. Those are Emeryville, California and Oakland, California according to this: https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-california/

Emeryville's Mayor is Dianne Martinez and I believe is a Democrat.
Oakland's Mayor is Libby Schaaf and is also I believe a Democrat.

I look forward to your rebuttal.

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Sep 18, 2021 13:16:31   #
trashbaum
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, that's a classic lie.

It works pretty well with conservatives because they tend to be very self-absorbed, so they don't understand the concept of standing up for someone else.

So any time a liberal is standing up for a disabled person or anyone who is unable to work for wh**ever reason by advocating for government support, conservatives think that liberal is in it for himself and trying to get out of work.


And its true!!

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Sep 18, 2021 13:17:41   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
trashbaum wrote:
It is natural to believe that good will prevail over evil. Through out the history of mankind evil seems to win. When evil was rampant A flood came and took most of it away, but evil returned. Evil is once again rampant and prophecy says evil will once more be destroyed. While those laugh, and continue to ridicule, their demise is slowly coming about. Good will not laugh, but will be sad for a short time. Evil will be no more!

Well, that's specific. LOL

"Evil will be flogged by the whips of goodness and the good people will be sad for a while." LOL

The biblical reference to the evil force that currently rules us is Mammon. And the Republicans are his minions. Read the Gospel of Luke and the Gospel of Matthew and figure it out.

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Sep 18, 2021 13:18:31   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
trashbaum wrote:
And its true!!

Wh**ever you need to believe Sparky. ;)

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Sep 18, 2021 13:19:16   #
trashbaum
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, that's specific. LOL

"Evil will be flogged by the whips of goodness and the good people will be sad for a while." LOL

The biblical reference to the evil force that currently rules us is Mammon. And the Republicans are his minions.


That is not true!!

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Sep 18, 2021 13:21:46   #
trashbaum
 
straightUp wrote:
Wh**ever you need to believe Sparky. ;)


I don't need any demo stuff sparkless

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Sep 18, 2021 13:43:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
rebelwidacoz wrote:
Homelessness , crime , brush fires ,corrupt media brought about by wrong Republican policy commencing with the Reagan administrations sustaining a philosophy of keeping a climate congruent to the so called growth and expansion of the economy and the 99% rewards for cooperating and adhering to this is jobs and trickle down as is referred to - which is [low paying,non gainful employment ;by the way ] stagnate minimum wages - an ignoring of the g****l w*****g crisis [which the Republicans practically deny even exist ] and this same ignoring of said crisis possibly could have brought about the C****a V***s and a climate conducive to massive perpetual brush fires ;not properly regulating industries and financial institutions so far as profit mongering there by raising the cost of living , people have no scruples when it comes to sustenance [ survival ] and maintaining their status quo life styles ,hence crime goes up ,not to mention in order to cope and relieve the tension that such conditions bring about they have a tendency to want a drink and possibly need a stiffer kick ,and what will give a stiffer kick ;drugs - drugs induces or inhibits the superego ,which is the parental side of the human psyche ,hence you have inordinate [extreme leftism ] digressive behavioral patterns which the Republicans claim to be anti left, they are extraordinarily disingenuous to the narrative platforms to which they stand on ;especially concerning the p******c - they have fermented policy that is totally disingenuous to the concept of profiteering - which means they are extraordinarily stupid .I don't even want to speak of the [I could tell your dumb ass anything and you will follow me as sheep herded or the children in the pied piper] that continue to listen and can't ,"see the forrest for the trees " Ah c`nt see dat` fuhhest ,`dem` trees innuh`way , stupid !!"
Homelessness , crime , brush fires ,corrupt media ... (show quote)


LOL - That's a mouthful. But you're right. Pretty much everything the Republican are trying to pin on the left is a result of their own i***t policies.

My favorite example of utter stupidity is when Trump was trying to blame the fires in California on their lack of forest management while the fires were all burning on land managed by the federal government that he was in charge of.

And yet, that's just one of the numerous details edited out of their BS narrative.

The key to understanding the Republicans is to see the distinction between the leaders who's agenda is a series of s**ms and the followers who are stupid enough to be fooled into supporting the s**ms without even knowing they ARE s**ms.

The cultural divide makes that easy because Republican followers are already preconditioned to agree with everything their leaders tell them (baaaa) and refuse to even consider what the left is telling them.

I'm making this point because when I call a Republican policy "i***tic" I am really referring to it's impact on the nation, but for those running the s**ms, there is usually a payoff which makes the policy quite logical.

So we have Republican leaders basically screwing America and Republican followers basically bending over and barking at anyone who interferes.

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Sep 18, 2021 13:44:20   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
trashbaum wrote:
That is not true!!

Oh, yes it is... Go ahead and research. Come back when it hits you.

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Sep 18, 2021 13:45:15   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
I only listed a few of the big ones. As for the t*********r right to pee in a girls bathroom, I wasn't really following it... I guess I just don't have the same hang ups that you conservatives have. If some guy identifies as a woman or something in between, who the FK cares?

Oh, right... conservative prudes care - because it's confusing to them and it hurts them.

And I don't see ANY efforts by ANYONE to give i*****l i*******ts the v**e. That lie came up in 2016 when Republicans were looking for ways to deny the fact that Clinton won the popular v**e by 3 million.
I only listed a few of the big ones. As for the t*... (show quote)


I am glad that you don't care if some guy hangs out in the same rest rooms that your wife and daughters use. Call me old fashioned, but I say it's wrong. No wait, you said " conservative prudes ". I've been called far worse by those on your side of the g****r question.

" And I don't see ANY efforts by ANYONE to give i*****l i*******ts the v**e. That lie came up in 2016 when Republicans were looking for ways to deny the fact that Clinton won the popular v**e by 3 million. "

I see that you really really really think I am as stupid as the folks on your side. No you totally must believe I just accept anything you write as fact. But let me explain, so as to make crystal clear, why what you just said is untrue.

The simplest way around the law that i******s cannot v**e is to quickly make them American citizens. Presto change-o, they are no longer illegal. Now of course they will v**e 110 % Democrat in perpetual gratitude for Democrats inviting them in.

Oh you say I am a liar ? Well I know you want to. So what is my evidence for saying that Democrats will simply make i******s legal ? Unlike you guys, I can back up my great great great BIG mouth.

Your boy Joe Biden has introduced the US Citizenship Act of 2021. So all Democrats have to do is keep importing dirt poor i*****l i*******ts, make them citizens, and they will never ever lose another e******n. Very simple, very brilliant. I don't know why I must always explain the obvious to you.

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Sep 18, 2021 14:12:40   #
trashbaum
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - That's a mouthful. But you're right. Pretty much everything the Republican are trying to pin on the left is a result of their own i***t policies.

My favorite example of utter stupidity is when Trump was trying to blame the fires in California on their lack of forest management while the fires were all burning on land managed by the federal government that he was in charge of.

And yet, that's just one of the numerous details edited out of their BS narrative.

The key to understanding the Republicans is to see the distinction between the leaders who's agenda is a series of s**ms and the followers who are stupid enough to be fooled into supporting the s**ms without even knowing they ARE s**ms.

The cultural divide makes that easy because Republican followers are already preconditioned to agree with everything their leaders tell them (baaaa) and refuse to even consider what the left is telling them.

I'm making this point because when I call a Republican policy "i***tic" I am really referring to it's impact on the nation, but for those running the s**ms, there is usually a payoff which makes the policy quite logical.

So we have Republican leaders basically screwing America and Republican followers basically bending over and barking at anyone who interferes.
LOL - That's a mouthful. But you're right. Pretty ... (show quote)


And all kinds of democrats that have no idea what they are talking about. The world is screwed up and it is the democrats fault. Republicans had nothing to do with Afghanistan withdrawal. Your worthless President did

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Sep 18, 2021 14:14:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Justice101 wrote:
They had to wait until Gruesome Newsom won, for Los Angeles County, the most populous county in the U.S., to announce Wednesday that it would require proof of C****-** v******tion at bars, nightclubs, breweries, lounges and related businesses. The order will also require v*****e proof or negative C****-** test for large outdoor events and major league baseball and football games, said county Public Health Director Dr. Barbara Ferrer.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/los-angeles-county-to-mandate-c****-**-v*****e-passports-officials_3999372.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email2&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-09-15-3&mktids=e0c55e9df48ee198694606ea91b21e91&est=eY2VzIrBGV1fQFcqFXT%2F8UGcndxHm2%2FvBvgJm86qTIynNsrarShlh08acGMkg6w%3D
They had to wait until Gruesome Newsom won, for Lo... (show quote)


Gruesome Newsome - LOL, that's funny.

So what's your problem? I don't understand. If you don't want to get v******ted then don't. No one is forcing you but if you want to party out with everyone else, then I guess you gotta get v******ted. It's your choice.

The only thing I really stand on are masks. I ALWAYS wear a mask in public spaces because I know children under 12 haven't had the chance to get v******ted yet and just because I'm v******ted doesn't mean I can't pass the v***s to someone who isn't.

If you have the chance to get v******ted and chose not to then I don't care if I t***smit the v***s to you. It's you own fault for not protecting yourself, but children haven't had the chance yet.

What these governors like DeSantis are doing is endangering children by exposing them to the v***s against which they are defenseless.

Newsome is doing the right things and the people know it, which is why they v**ed to keep him. I'm sure he's fine with the screaming and spitting from the disenfranchised halfwits. They can always move out if the v***s doesn't k**l them first.

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Sep 18, 2021 14:47:24   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
son of witless wrote:
I am glad that you don't care if some guy hangs out in the same rest rooms that your wife and daughters use. Call me old fashioned, but I say it's wrong. No wait, you said " conservative prudes ". I've been called far worse by those on your side of the g****r question.

No, I don't care if some t****y is using the same bathroom as my wife or my daughter. Those bathrooms have stalls anyway, so I really don't see the problem.

son of witless wrote:

" And I don't see ANY efforts by ANYONE to give i*****l i*******ts the v**e. That lie came up in 2016 when Republicans were looking for ways to deny the fact that Clinton won the popular v**e by 3 million. "

I see that you really really really think I am as stupid as the folks on your side.

The majority of Americans are on my side witless... Are you really calling the majority of Americans stupid?

son of witless wrote:

No you totally must believe I just accept anything you write as fact.

Oh... you mean you don't believe everything I write is fact? LOL... So are you really making that assumption, witless?

son of witless wrote:

But let me explain, so as to make crystal clear, why what you just said is untrue.

The simplest way around the law that i******s cannot v**e is to quickly make them American citizens. Presto change-o, they are no longer illegal. Now of course they will v**e 110 % Democrat in perpetual gratitude for Democrats inviting them in.

Wow. OK, look... You can't be a citizen AND an i*****l i*******t at the same time. You are either one or the other. So, if your problem is with new citizens v****g Democrat then say so. But saying that Democrats are giving v**es to i*****l i*******ts is just downright false.

son of witless wrote:

Oh you say I am a liar ? Well I know you want to. So what is my evidence for saying that Democrats will simply make i******s legal ? Unlike you guys, I can back up my great great great BIG mouth.

Well, so far you're not doing a very good job... You said the Democrats are giving v**es to i*****l i*******ts. That's a lie, plain and simple. And you KNOW it's a lie or your wouldn't have to back-pedal by saying "well, they convert them to citizens first"

son of witless wrote:

Your boy Joe Biden has introduced the US Citizenship Act of 2021. So all Democrats have to do is keep importing dirt poor i*****l i*******ts, make them citizens, and they will never ever lose another e******n. Very simple, very brilliant. I don't know why I must always explain the obvious to you.

You're really not explaining anything. Have you even read the US Citizenship Act? That's a rhetorical question BTW, because I know you haven't. How do I know? Because I have.

If you read the bill, you would know that the only immediate reward is a green card for a very specific category of undocumented immigrants, like the Dreamers who came here as babies through no fault of their own and have lived here all their lives. This resolves the whole DACA issue. (I suppose I should tell you that holding a green card does not entitle you to a v**e).

If you read the bill, you would would also know that the green card is just the first step in a path to citizenship that by the terms of the law itself is no less than eight years.

So are you lying or are you just misinformed?

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Sep 18, 2021 14:57:13   #
JW
 
straightUp wrote:
Lying to the public about other people that he has personal problems with is not a lawful duty of his office.

Here's the link... I passed over all the MSM articles covering this case, looking specifically for a Fox link because I know you don't believe anything CNN or MSNBC says...
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/trump-request-to-replace-defendant-as-us-denied-in-defamation-lawsuit

And this one for more information about what I said regarding the 30,000 to 1 ratio.
https://www.thirty-thousand.org
Lying to the public about other people that he has... (show quote)


Our interaction is getting too stretched out so forgive me if I miss a salient point. It's difficult to find one in the jungle of irrelevant verbiage you let flow.

Point #1, the issue is electing the President, not establishing Congress. Your history lesson is misdirected and irrelevant. Read Federalist Paper 68. It explains why the e*******l college was established by those who established it.

Point #2, anyone who would choose to live in a democracy is a political neophyte or a complete fool. There is no system more likely to fall prey to a tyrant and no organization more unstable. A Constitutional Republic is, as the JC creed and other American creeds, like the Pledge of Allegiance, state, a Republic, a nation of laws. The simple fact that people v**e does not establish a system as a democracy. A better explanation of a democracy, https://www.bing.com/search?q=democracy+meaning&form=ANNTH1&refig=cf9030f6eb2f406182db5bc7cf6cfadf&sp=5&qs=AS&pq=democracy&sk=EP1LS3&sc=8-9&cvid=cf9030f6eb2f406182db5bc7cf6cfadf

Point #3, I'll look into your link on the lawsuit and get back to you, thank you.

Added: Trump didn't make the request, the Justice dept. did. It was a legal maneuver to absolve Trump of the defense costs since the litigant's accusation was part of a political campaign. The article makes a remarkable claim: that a President is not entitled to the same shield as accorded all other elected officials.

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Sep 18, 2021 15:02:04   #
trashbaum
 
straightUp wrote:
Gruesome Newsome - LOL, that's funny.

So what's your problem? I don't understand. If you don't want to get v******ted then don't. No one is forcing you but if you want to party out with everyone else, then I guess you gotta get v******ted. It's your choice.

The only thing I really stand on are masks. I ALWAYS wear a mask in public spaces because I know children under 12 haven't had the chance to get v******ted yet and just because I'm v******ted doesn't mean I can't pass the v***s to someone who isn't.

If you have the chance to get v******ted and chose not to then I don't care if I t***smit the v***s to you. It's you own fault for not protecting yourself, but children haven't had the chance yet.

What these governors like DeSantis are doing is endangering children by exposing them to the v***s against which they are defenseless.

Newsome is doing the right things and the people know it, which is why they v**ed to keep him. I'm sure he's fine with the screaming and spitting from the disenfranchised halfwits. They can always move out if the v***s doesn't k**l them first.
Gruesome Newsome - LOL, that's funny. br br So wh... (show quote)


You guys need to take a med class, especially on immunization .

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Sep 18, 2021 16:10:07   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
You're really not explaining anything. Have you even read the US Citizenship Act? That's a rhetorical question BTW, because I know you haven't. How do I know? Because I have.

If you read the bill, you would know that the only immediate reward is a green card for a very specific category of undocumented immigrants, like the Dreamers who came here as babies through no fault of their own and have lived here all their lives. This resolves the whole DACA issue. (I suppose I should tell you that holding a green card does not entitle you to a v**e).

If you read the bill, you would would also know that the green card is just the first step in a path to citizenship that by the terms of the law itself is no less than eight years.

So are you lying or are you just misinformed?
You're really not explaining anything. Have you ev... (show quote)


"
Wow. OK, look... You can't be a citizen AND an i*****l i*******t at the same time. You are either one or the other. So, if your problem is with new citizens v****g Democrat then say so. But saying that Democrats are giving v**es to i*****l i*******ts is just downright false. "

Your logic is amazing. You agree with what I said, that Democrats are turning i******s into American Citizens, and they will of course v**e Democrat, yet you fail to see that the end result is in fact giving the v**e to i******s. You fail to see the immorality of it.

It benefits your side, might makes right, and the end result means that Joe Biden can just keep on importing i******s and turning them into Democratic Party V**ers. I suppose it comes under the category of what ever works.

This is why when you guys post your nonsense about Donald J. Trump and the Republicans doing this or that, which in your mind is so horrible, I merely laugh at your hypocrisy.

In the end as you of course know, all that matters is that you win, right ? I quadruple dog dare you to say I have it wrong.

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