Where did that saying come from? The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to...

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Yea but I'll bet g****l w*****g wasn't a concern.

slatten49 wrote:

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

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Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Too cool, thanks. This explains one thing that I always wanted to know. Part of our family home dates back to the 1700s, the kitchen was in a different building with a very large fireplace. All the floors are of wide wood planks, with the exception of the mud room and it is slate. Now I know. Thanks

slatten49 wrote:

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

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slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

JFlorio wrote:

Yea but I'll bet g****l w*****g wasn't a concern.

Not likely. :lol: They had other concerns. :shock:

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

slatten49 wrote:

Not likely. :lol: They had other concerns. :shock:

Yep, life was hard back then, when the only concerns were - survival. Here's another term; families rarely had meat, perhaps a chicken now and then. Pork was highly prized, but even hog farmers rarely got much of the pigs they slaughtered. The wealthy wound up with the chops and hams and the poor were left with wh**ever was left. The wealthy eating the best parts of the pig, or the upper parts, is where eating "high on the hog" came from.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

slatten49 wrote:

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

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Thanks for this great explanation! Makes it a lot easier to focus each morning on gratitude for the comforts I'm fortunate enough to have.

rumitoid

slatten49 wrote:

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

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If the emoticon at the end signifies a sly wink to members as to this piece by some playful senior being a finely crafted put-on, it is accurate. But great fun for its creativity. Thank you. If I had not read about the history of the tomato just two days ago, you would have had me "hook, line, and sinker" and we all know where that expression comes from: Obamacare.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

slatten49 wrote:

The next time you are washing your hands and complaining because the water temperature isn't just the way you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good in June. Thus, the trend of being a June bride. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor, hence, the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children, and last of all, the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs, thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, 'dirt poor'. The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a 'threshold'.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence, the rhyme: "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could 'bring home the bacon'. They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and 'chew the fat'.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the 'upper crust'.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road could take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up, hence the custom of holding a 'wake'.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bonehouse, and reuse the grave. When re-opening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside. They realized they had been burying people alive, so they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground. They would tie it to a bell. Then, someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be 'saved by the bell' or was considered a 'dead ringer'.

This article was written by an elderly man for a publication found in a local nursing home, 'Seniorific News'. It is reprinted by me as close to the original as possible, minus possible typos I may have missed. slatten49. :wink:

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you were there and remember all this, right? or did Gringo tell you

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

alex wrote:

you were there and remember all this, right? or did Gringo tell you

I did tutor him, but you kept skipping the tutorial sessions; thus your ignorance of historical 'facts'.:oops: :lol:

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

Old_Gringo wrote:

I did tutor him, but you kept skipping the tutorial sessions; thus your ignorance of historical 'facts'.:oops: :lol:

I'll try to do better

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

rumitoid wrote:

If the emoticon at the end signifies a sly wink to members as to this piece by some playful senior being a finely crafted put-on, it is accurate. But great fun for its creativity. Thank you. If I had not read about the history of the tomato just two days ago, you would have had me "hook, line, and sinker" and we all know where that expression comes from: Obamacare.

No, Rumi, the 'sly wink' at the end just signifies that I am capable of error in t***sferring text. I did not write the article, and cannot vouch for the validity of anything in it, but it makes reasonable sense, and I enjoyed reading it. That is why I shared the piece with my fellow posters! :thumbup: I certainly do not believe the gentlemen I referenced lived in the 1500s. :lol:

Neither did Salty or I, Alex. :hunf:

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

alex wrote:

I'll try to do better

Uh, huh. :lol:

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Old_Gringo wrote:

I did tutor him, but you kept skipping the tutorial sessions; thus your ignorance of historical 'facts'.:oops: :lol:

Salty, 'tootorial lessons' to a squid means learning how to flatulate in a socially proper manner. :mrgreen:

They have no social grace. :oops:

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

slatten49 wrote:

No, Rumi, the 'sly wink' at the end just signifies that I am capable of error in t***sferring text. I did not write the article, and cannot vouch for the validity of anything in it, but it makes reasonable sense, and I enjoyed reading it. That is why I shared the piece with my fellow posters! :thumbup: I certainly do not believe the gentlemen I referenced lived in the 1500s. :lol:

Neither did Salty or I, Alex. :hunf:

that's hard to believe

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

slatten49 wrote:

Salty, 'tootorial lessons' to a squid means learning how to flatulate in a socially proper manner. :mrgreen:

They have no social grace. :oops:

I have lots of grace have you ever tried to walk down a rocking carrier hangar bay without tripping over a tie down chain? that takes grace