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The Question "Are You A Patriot" Can Be Yes Or No Depending On The Context
Sep 12, 2021 13:35:40   #
woodguru
 
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in context of, there are right wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies has nothing to do hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.

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Sep 12, 2021 13:40:40   #
skyrider
 
woodguru wrote:
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in context of, there are right wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies has nothing to do hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.
Depending on which kind of "patriot" thi... (show quote)


OMG !!!! You get more pathetic every day !!!!

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Sep 12, 2021 13:48:16   #
Old Thinker
 
skyrider wrote:
OMG !!!! You get more pathetic every day !!!!


yes he is but he/she is just one of several that aren't really worth responding to anymore...

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Sep 12, 2021 13:48:45   #
Liberty Tree
 
skyrider wrote:
OMG !!!! You get more pathetic every day !!!!


He would have to improve greatly to reach a level of just being pathetic.

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Sep 12, 2021 13:57:48   #
skyrider
 
Old Thinker wrote:
yes he is but he/she is just one of several that aren't really worth responding to anymore...


You are absolutely right, but sometimes it is so outrageous I automatically have to vent.

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Sep 12, 2021 14:00:36   #
Liberty Tree
 
Old Thinker wrote:
yes he is but he/she is just one of several that aren't really worth responding to anymore...


True, he is one of those on my list to ignore.

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Sep 12, 2021 14:40:23   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
skyrider wrote:
OMG !!!! You get more pathetic every day !!!!


I'm at the point, I'm too tired to respond to his BS. It's like telling little kid the same think over and over again!

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Sep 12, 2021 15:32:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
I'm at the point, I'm too tired to respond to his BS. It's like telling little kid the same think over and over again!


He continually taps out these screeds, and moves on. He isn't interested in discussion, or other opinions. He is the little Castro of OPP.
He decrees it, and it is so.

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Sep 12, 2021 16:08:21   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
woodguru wrote:
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in context of, there are right wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies has nothing to do hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.
Depending on which kind of "patriot" thi... (show quote)


ISIS considers themselves to be patriots.

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Sep 12, 2021 16:18:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in context of, there are right wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies has nothing to do hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.
Depending on which kind of "patriot" thi... (show quote)

There are different kinds of patriotism and they can only be determined by the "context" in which the subject expresses his loyalty?

Is that what you are telling us? Wow, how does one unpack that?

Here's a thought.

When Hitler invaded Russia in 1942, the Russian army was ill-prepared to meet the onslaught and were pushed back almost to Moscow and the Volga river. Uniformed political commissars were embedded with Russian army units. Their job was to aggressively enforce loyalty to Stalin and his party. Their fighting spirit was grounded upon that concept.

Unlike Hitler's troops, the Russian soldiers did not have to swear a blood oath to their leader and his party, but any soldier displaying disloyalty - like throwing down his gun and running away - was considered a t*****r and shot.

In August 1942, the German 6th and 4th Panzer armies descended on Stalingrad on the Volga river. They surrounded the city and with support from the Luftwaffe, pretty much obliterated it. The Russians were trapped and their hopes for a successful defense was waning fast. The great industrial city named after "The Boss" was about to be lost.

Then something happened that radically changed the complexion of the defense of Stalingrad and enlivened the Russian troops fighting spirit.

Nikta Khrushchev, Stalin's chief political commissar, personally delivered a message to the troops in Stalingrad. First to the embedded commissars and then on to the troops.

Russian soldiers were no longer fighting for nor defending their Boss and his party,
they were fighting for MOTHER RUSSIA.

Khrushchev's edict awakened and emboldened what most of the Russian soldiers had felt all along. They were defending their families, their children, their friends, homes, farms, businesses, and property.

The result was just short of a miracle. the Russians captured the entire German 6th army. It was the largest surrender of German troops in Russia during the entire war.


When Donald Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS, he didn't do that out of selfishness, or to put another notch in his gun, or to add a glowing paragraph to his already impressive resume.

He, like millions of us, were well aware of the advancing socialist threat to ourselves, our families and children, to our friends, homes, farms, businesses, and property. To our American way of life in its entirety.

MAGA was not Donald Trump's personal motto, it wasn't just a campaign slogan, or a clever idea to put on a bumper sticker. "Make America Great Again" is a war cry.

Put succinctly, making America great again is not a political objective, rather it is a citizen's commitment to defeating an existential threat to our nation as a whole. Very much like the Russians at Stalingrad.

That is patriotism in its proper context.

So, are you a patriot or a party loyalist?

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Sep 12, 2021 18:23:12   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There are different kinds of patriotism and they can only be determined by the "context" in which the subject expresses his loyalty?

Is that what you are telling us? Wow, how does one unpack that?

Here's a thought.

When Hitler invaded Russia in 1942, the Russian army was ill-prepared to meet the onslaught and were pushed back almost to Moscow and the Volga river. Uniformed political commissars were embedded with Russian army units. Their job was to aggressively enforce loyalty to Stalin and his party. Their fighting spirit was grounded upon that concept.

Unlike Hitler's troops, the Russian soldiers did not have to swear a blood oath to their leader and his party, but any soldier displaying disloyalty - like throwing down his gun and running away - was considered a t*****r and shot.

In August 1942, the German 6th and 4th Panzer armies descended on Stalingrad on the Volga river. They surrounded the city and with support from the Luftwaffe, pretty much obliterated it. The Russians were trapped and their hopes for a successful defense was waning fast. The great industrial city named after "The Boss" was about to be lost.

Then something happened that radically changed the complexion of the defense of Stalingrad and enlivened the Russian troops fighting spirit.

Nikta Khrushchev, Stalin's chief political commissar, personally delivered a message to the troops in Stalingrad. First to the embedded commissars and then on to the troops.

Russian soldiers were no longer fighting for nor defending their Boss and his party,
they were fighting for MOTHER RUSSIA.

Khrushchev's edict awakened and emboldened what most of the Russian soldiers had felt all along. They were defending their families, their children, their friends, homes, farms, businesses, and property.

The result was just short of a miracle. the Russians captured the entire German 6th army. It was the largest surrender of German troops in Russia during the entire war.


When Donald Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS, he didn't do that out of selfishness, or to put another notch in his gun, or to add a glowing paragraph to his already impressive resume.

He, like millions of us, were well aware of the advancing socialist threat to ourselves, our families and children, to our friends, homes, farms, businesses, and property. To our American way of life in its entirety.

MAGA was not Donald Trump's personal motto, it wasn't just a campaign slogan, or a clever idea to put on a bumper sticker. "Make America Great Again" is a war cry.

Put succinctly, making America great again is not a political objective, rather it is a citizen's commitment to defeating an existential threat to our nation as a whole. Very much like the Russians at Stalingrad.

That is patriotism in its proper context.

So, are you a patriot or a party loyalist?
There are different kinds of patriotism and they c... (show quote)


👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏! Outstanding sir!!!!

I hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries in offering a little constructive criticism, though.
You're always handing this guy his ass.
Why don't you just keep it, and let him slither around without it?😂😂

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Sep 12, 2021 18:46:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
archie bunker wrote:
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏! Outstanding sir!!!!

I hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries in offering a little constructive criticism, though.
You're always handing this guy his ass.
Why don't you just keep it, and let him slither around without it?😂😂
Thank you, archie, thank you very much.

I have considered what you suggest, but I have this thing about setting the record straight when some l*****t nimrod like the guru of wood throws a convoluted word fit to redefine an American ideal just to fit his highly prejudiced political agenda.

I reckon, though, it wouldn't hurt a thing to leave the "guru" to slither around in his own stinking political cess pool.

I'll keep that in mind next time.

And, thanks again.

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Sep 12, 2021 19:45:39   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in context of, there are right wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies has nothing to do hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.
Depending on which kind of "patriot" thi... (show quote)


Embracing c*******m and socialism and other far left radical ideas is definitely not patriotic in any form. So that leaves you out.

I am a PATRIOT.

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Sep 13, 2021 07:13:37   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
woodguru wrote:
Depending on which kind of "patriot" this is in the context of, there are right-wingers that I would say I am a real patriot, but not your idea of what a patriot is.

The alternative patriot has parameters that do not apply to me, but the f**e patriots don't get that.

One does not have to love trump to be a patriot
Not loving trump does not mean you do not love the country
Criticizing the country and stupid trump policies have nothing to do with hating the country, in fact...
A patriot does criticize their government when it is wrong, in fact, it's safe to say that is what a patriot is or does

When a f**e patriot is holding up the loving trump and the country BS I would say a simple no, I am not your definition of patriot...I am a real patriot and I am against what trump and f**e patriots are doing to the country in the name of patriotism. It's exactly what religious zealots do to countries in the name of their religion.
Depending on which kind of "patriot" thi... (show quote)


If you are defending Biden, you are anything except a patriot.

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