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Sep 11, 2021 13:44:13   #
Airforceone
 
Michael10 wrote:
These people hear what they want to hear then disseminate it through the unthinking mass to push wh**ever agenda they have, be it sane or insanity claiming freedom while they ignore the freedom of others. Freedom ain't very free if you're dead from a v***s they could have prevented.


This has always been the right wing agenda. Spread lies, Misinformation, they cherry pick, conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda

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Sep 11, 2021 13:49:52   #
Michael10
 
skyrider wrote:
Yes, it's probably my failure of not being a mind reader to be able to understand what you
are attempting to say.
My fault......


Don't let it happen again

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Sep 11, 2021 13:53:45   #
skyrider
 
Michael10 wrote:
Don't let it happen again


You could at least be nice about it, after all I'm just a poor, ignorant old man.

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Sep 11, 2021 13:57:36   #
Airforceone
 
skyrider wrote:
Go back into your hole.


Don’t have to hide in a hole I got v******ted and looking forward to the booster to protect myself from a bunch of right wing ignorance that never climb out of there hole of ignorance to facts and science deniers.
I have approximately 72 people in my family (grandchildren) (nieces)(nephews)(husbands) and children of nieces and nephews except for under 13 and add in all my friends everyone has had the original C***D v******tion and not one case of C***D except for my brother who contacted C***D before the v*****e and came Damm close to dying guess what. Not one problem. I just had two friends that qualified for the booster shot and they immediately went and got the shot.

I will get the booster as soon as I qualify to protect myself from the ignorant right that are not happy unless Americans are dying. Good luck and I pray for you and your family and the i***ts in this country that refuse to be v******ted.

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Sep 11, 2021 18:05:06   #
EmilyD
 
Michael10 wrote:
Now there a good source , My brother said they didn't.


My sister is also influenced by our brother's death...I've posted it here a few times. He died of the M*****a v*****e in May, and she is very sensitive about the issue.

If you don't believe me, that doesn't matter to anyone but you. But I do not lie. I believe it is wrong to lie.

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Sep 11, 2021 18:34:07   #
Michael10
 
EmilyD wrote:
My sister is also influenced by our brother's death...I've posted it here a few times. He died of the M*****a v*****e in May, and she is very sensitive about the issue.

If you don't believe me, that doesn't matter to anyone but you. But I do not lie. I believe it is wrong to lie.


Believe me it doesn't matter to me at all...

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Sep 11, 2021 19:53:03   #
EmilyD
 
Michael10 wrote:
Believe me it doesn't matter to me at all...


Good. What matters to me is that you essentially called me a liar. And I am not. My brother did die in May of the M*****a v*****e. And I miss him terribly. And my sister is a very good source of this information because of where she works, how long she has worked there and because she has a vested, personal interested in the t***h about what is going on with v*****es!! If I can help ONE person escape dying the way my brother did, then it will be well worth it to me.

And I'm not saying to either get the v*****e or not get it....but I really want people to PLEASE become informed about what it can do...and know that people die from it. A lot of people. I won't bother to list the links here. I know you aren't interested. But they have information that is not being reported because the powers that be don't want them to be reported. But the information is factual...not opinion.

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Sep 11, 2021 20:12:28   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
EmilyD wrote:
Good. What matters to me is that you essentially called me a liar. And I am not. My brother did die in May of the M*****a v*****e. And I miss him terribly. And my sister is a very good source of this information because of where she works, how long she has worked there and because she has a vested, personal interested in the t***h about what is going on with v*****es!! If I can help ONE person escape dying the way my brother did, then it will be well worth it to me.

And I'm not saying to either get the v*****e or not get it....but I really want people to PLEASE become informed about what it can do...and know that people die from it. A lot of people. I won't bother to list the links here. I know you aren't interested. But they have information that is not being reported because the powers that be don't want them to be reported. But the information is factual...not opinion.
Good. What matters to me is that you essentially c... (show quote)


I am sorry for your loss Emily. I hope people consider your message. The information is out there, for those who seek answers. That is all you can do. The rest is up to them.

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Sep 11, 2021 20:27:28   #
EmilyD
 
ACP45 wrote:
I am sorry for your loss Emily. I hope people consider your message. The information is out there, for those who seek answers. That is all you can do. The rest is up to them.


Thanks ACP45. I think I'm just trying to justify his death by trying to urge people to make informed decisions and not just follow the sheep....it may mean nothing. Or it could mean everything!!

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Sep 12, 2021 09:04:05   #
Big dog
 
Gatsby wrote:
I reckon that My Independence has always been more important to me than My Life.

Gatsby


👍👍👍

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Sep 12, 2021 09:37:32   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
ACP45 wrote:
You have been told by the FDA, CDC, NIH, political leaders, and perhaps even your family doctor that “If you are v******ted,” they say to us, “you may still get infected, but you will not get seriously ill or die because the v*****es are still effective against that.”

Oh really! Consider the following information that you can check out for yourself:

1. According to Becker’s Hospital Review, as of August 15, nearly 60 percent of people hospitalized for C***d in Israel were fully v******ted.

2. According to Dr. Kobi Haviv, who is medical director at Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, 95 percent of severe c***d cases at his hospital are fully v******ted.

3. According to a report from the Jerusalem Post, the overwhelming majority of those who died of C***d in Israel in the first half of July – fifteen out of twenty people – were fully v******ted persons.

4. According to a recent report by the UK government agency Public Health England those who received a C****-** v*****e are more than three times more likely to die from the Delta variant than unv******ted people.

5. According to a piece that ran in the Vision Times in early July, death and hospitalization rates in the UK are higher for the v******ted than for the unv******ted. This is what we learn:

“The death rate for fully v******ted individuals was 0.636 percent, which was 6.6 times higher than the unv******ted death rate of 0.0957 percent… Fully v******ted individuals were also found to be more prone to hospitalization than their unv******ted counterparts. Out of the 4,087 fully v******ted people, 2.05 percent (84 people) ended up in a hospital. Among the 35,521 unv******ted people, only 1.48 percent (527 people) were hospitalized.”

6. According to a July report from Medical Xpress, “More v******ted than unv******ted Britons are now dying from the c****av***s.”

7. According to another British report “most C***d deaths occur in fully v******ted people.” Here is the data they refer to:

8. “From February 1 through August 2, Britain recorded 742 deaths from the delta variant. Of these, 402 were fully v******ted while 79 had received just one shot. The remaining 253 cases were unv******ted.”

9. The report also notes the following: “In Israel and the US state of Vermont too, a majority of new hospitalizations were fully v******ted.”

10. In a recent posting, Alex Berenson, a former New York Times journalist (now cancelled), presented a chart drawn from UK government data that shows a rising numbers of C***d deaths even as the country’s massive v******tion drive covered nearly 90 percent of adult population. Please keep in mind that most of those deaths are among the fully v******ted. “Something is very, very wrong,” observes Berenson aptly.

If you have not yet succumbed to the enormous pressure to get jabbed yet, consider the above information, carefully. Rolling eyeballs and claims of "f**e news" aside, use your god given brain, and intuition before making your decision. Yes, travel is important, your job is important..... but more important than your long term health, and perhaps your life????
You have been told by the FDA, CDC, NIH, political... (show quote)


That why I waited and got the old fashion v*****e J&J I don't trust the m**A nano crap which they are finding settles in the organs mostly the liver

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Sep 12, 2021 09:41:50   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Airforceone wrote:
Don’t have to hide in a hole I got v******ted and looking forward to the booster to protect myself from a bunch of right wing ignorance that never climb out of there hole of ignorance to facts and science deniers.
I have approximately 72 people in my family (grandchildren) (nieces)(nephews)(husbands) and children of nieces and nephews except for under 13 and add in all my friends everyone has had the original C***D v******tion and not one case of C***D except for my brother who contacted C***D before the v*****e and came Damm close to dying guess what. Not one problem. I just had two friends that qualified for the booster shot and they immediately went and got the shot.

I will get the booster as soon as I qualify to protect myself from the ignorant right that are not happy unless Americans are dying. Good luck and I pray for you and your family and the i***ts in this country that refuse to be v******ted.
Don’t have to hide in a hole I got v******ted and ... (show quote)


If i***ts they be then they will die for what they believe in and thats that. But you need to realize that even the v******ted are getting sick but some of them have such a light beginning that they don't realize they have been infected and continue to go about their business and are infecting people as well

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Sep 12, 2021 09:50:22   #
currahee506
 
Where is the evidence to make your rebuttal, "Lefty?"

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Sep 12, 2021 10:51:51   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
currahee506 wrote:
Where is the evidence to make your rebuttal, "Lefty?"


who are you talking to

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Sep 12, 2021 11:00:29   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
EmilyD wrote:
Good. What matters to me is that you essentially called me a liar. And I am not. My brother did die in May of the M*****a v*****e. And I miss him terribly. And my sister is a very good source of this information because of where she works, how long she has worked there and because she has a vested, personal interested in the t***h about what is going on with v*****es!! If I can help ONE person escape dying the way my brother did, then it will be well worth it to me.

And I'm not saying to either get the v*****e or not get it....but I really want people to PLEASE become informed about what it can do...and know that people die from it. A lot of people. I won't bother to list the links here. I know you aren't interested. But they have information that is not being reported because the powers that be don't want them to be reported. But the information is factual...not opinion.
Good. What matters to me is that you essentially c... (show quote)


Sorry about your brother Emily losing people we love can leave gaping holes in us glad you have each other to lean on. These v*****es what can I say I waited and got the J&J old fashion v*****e just didn't want something new in this old body. Now my Drs are leary of me even getting a booster of that due to blood clot possibility

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