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Aug 18, 2021 18:53:28   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
woodguru wrote:
The defense was that nobody with a brain would have taken their bull seriously...little did they know they found half the republicans don't have any brains.



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Aug 18, 2021 18:53:34   #
woodguru
 
BigMike wrote:
Y'know, it's almost as if Lindell and company are provoking D******n into suing them.

I wish D******n would get on with it.


Hello, they were sued because there is no merit as in they cannot prove their claims...they made claims that D******n affected e******ns in regions that had no D******n machines...oops.

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Aug 18, 2021 19:23:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You make me soooo very sad. Such a good brain wasted.

Carol, I understand, as I feel the same way towards many OPP antagonists.

Yet, "True patriotism does not exclude understanding the patriotism of others." I believe you to be a true patriot, as am I. And, I did not fight and bleed for my country to be denied freedom of expression.

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Aug 18, 2021 19:38:30   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
slatten49 wrote:
Carol, I understand, as I feel the same way towards many OPP antagonists.

Yet, "True patriotism does not exclude understanding the patriotism of others." I believe you to be a true patriot, as am I. And, I did not fight and bleed for my country to be denied freedom of expression.
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Take a reality check dude.
https://youtu.be/I5OiM0TLh-A

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Aug 18, 2021 20:22:15   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
SGM B wrote:
Good riddance.


I have had a couple of private messages with Slat and believe, due to said conversations, I was a little hasty in my comment and want to officially retract it. We still don’t agree on everything but that’s no reason for my comment.
SGM B

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Aug 18, 2021 20:24:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Not surprised by this. Anything to divert attention from Biden's massive failures. This is a low priority news item.

Hurt feelings don't count.
It is. And it neglects the basic premise of a defamation law suit. The one who filed it must show damages.

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Aug 18, 2021 21:42:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
BigMike wrote:
I care nothing for the rulings of ACTIVIST judges. That's the only kind there are anymore. He probably went to Epstein Island with Bill and Prince Andrew.

What I do want is for D******n to actually sue. C'mon widdit already!

If they don't, there won't be discovery and aaall these back and forths mean nothing.



I’m with you. Let’s get on with it.

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Aug 18, 2021 21:43:40   #
Carol Kelly
 
SGM B wrote:
I have had a couple of private messages with Slat and believe, due to said conversations, I was a little hasty in my comment and want to officially retract it. We still don’t agree on everything but that’s no reason for my comment.
SGM B


You’re being a very nice person.

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Aug 18, 2021 21:44:35   #
Carol Kelly
 
slatten49 wrote:
Carol, I understand, as I feel the same way towards many OPP antagonists.

Yet, "True patriotism does not exclude understanding the patriotism of others." I believe you to be a true patriot, as am I. And, I did not fight and bleed for my country to be denied freedom of expression.
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Okay!

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Aug 18, 2021 21:55:01   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You’re being a very nice person.


Thank you, it was the right thing to do. 🙂

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Aug 18, 2021 22:24:02   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You’re being a very nice person.

SGM B is a nice and very decent person. Our both being Viet Nam Vets, I believe there is mutual respect. Respect is generally reciprocated, and should be.

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Aug 18, 2021 23:59:27   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
SGM B wrote:
I have had a couple of private messages with Slat and believe, due to said conversations, I was a little hasty in my comment and want to officially retract it. We still don’t agree on everything but that’s no reason for my comment.
SGM B


You are a good man and a decent human being. I spoke to Slatts on the phone a few weeks back and mentioned you and we both agreed that you are good people.

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Aug 19, 2021 08:34:58   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You are a good man and a decent human being. I spoke to Slatts on the phone a few weeks back and mentioned you and we both agreed that you are good people.


I believe there actually are more good people than bad on OPP, it’s just that the full blown imbeciles are so verbose - I think you know who I’m talking about. 😉😉😎

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Aug 19, 2021 09:10:09   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
slatten49 wrote:
Jessica Levinson

A federal judge ruled that a major defamation case against key boosters of former President Donald Trump’s false claims of e******n f***d can continue forward. This is a win not just for the plaintiff, D******n, a corporation that sells v****g machines and software, but also for the American public. It’s looking increasingly like defamation suits could be our best bet for holding e******n conspiracy theorists accountable and for deterring future false claims of e******n f***d.

The defendants in the case are Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, attorneys who promoted falsehoods about the 2020 p**********l e******n, and Mike Lindell, founder of MyPillow and a frequent peddler of e******n conspiracies. All three are now stuck defending themselves against D******n’s defamation suit thanks to the judge’s decision not to toss the case as they requested. The suit, very generally, involves claims that Powell, Giuliani and Lindell made about D******n rigging the 2020 e******n. To succeed in its defamation claim, D******n must show that Powell, Giuliani and/or Lindell expressed or implied a false fact (as opposed to opinion) about D******n and that they knew the statements were false or that they recklessly disregarded the fact that the statements were false.

Judge Carl Nichols who presided over the case is no liberal darling — he was appointed by none other than Trump himself. And the disdain that the federal judge showed for the statements made, and defenses waged by Powell, Giuliani and Lindell was palpable. A quick read of the 44-page opinion reveals a healthy dose of judicial derision.

Nichols quickly rejected Powell’s first defense: that a reasonable person could not believe many of her comments about the 2020 e******n were statements of fact. It is “simply not the law that provably false statements cannot be actionable if made in the context of an e******n,” Nichols wrote. Put another way, if you lie about a person or other legal entity, you can be sued for defamation, even if the lie is made about an e******n. It’s worth lingering on Powell’s claim that nobody should have believed what she was saying were actual facts. On the question of whether a reasonable juror could find that Powell expressed or implied a false fact about D******n, Nichols concluded that this “is not a close call.” Some of Powell’s greatest hits soon followed, like her claim that she could “hardly wait to put forth all the evidence . . . on D******n, starting with the fact it was created to produce altered v****g results in Venezuela for Hugo Chávez."

Nichols then proceeded to ruthlessly reject Powell and Lindell’s argument that D******n’s allegation failed to show that the defendants knew — or recklessly disregarded — that the purportedly defamatory statements were false. Powell’s defense is that she relied on other people’s sworn declarations when she made her allegedly false statements. Similarly, Lindell’s defense was that he had “evidence” (Nichols’ scare quotes, not mine) to support his alleged lies.

The disdain that the federal judge showed for the statements made, and defenses waged by Powell, Giuliani, and Lindell was palpable.

Again, here comes Nichols with the legal smackdown — “there is no rule that a defendant cannot act in reckless disregard of the t***h when relying on sworn affidavits — especially sworn affidavits that the defendant had a role in creating,” he wrote regarding Powell’s claim. And as for Lindell’s position: “A reasonable juror could conclude that the existence of a vast international conspiracy that is ignored by the government but proven by a spreadsheet on an internet blog is so inherently improbable that only a reckless man would believe it.”

Nichols also rejected Giuliani’s argument, which said the case should dismissed because D******n didn’t ask for the right type of damages to recover. There is something truly cathartic about reading a jurist, whether appointed by a Republican or a Democrat, reject Powell, Lindell and Giuliani’s arguments like a raptor dismantling its prey. But more important than the catharsis (and schadenfreude), Nichols’ decision is right on the law and emphasizes the importance of defamation cases as a tool to deter behavior that could undermine not just individual e******ns, but our faith in e******ns themselves.

In brief: The judiciary is holding. That the opinion, concerning whether some of Trump’s biggest public supporters can be sued for defamation, was written by a Trump appointee is hugely important. It shows us that many of the federal judges elevated in the last four years are not in fact just political actors in robes. Instead, they are jurists whose job it is to apply the facts of each case to the law and make a determination, regardless of whether or not it is bad for the person who appointed them to their venerated position. Respect for judges, who make up one of our three branches of government, is vital to maintaining respect for government in general.

D******n’s defamation suits may be the best legal avenue to hold Powell, Lindell and Giuliani accountable for what appears to be a vast web of lies about the 2020 p**********l e******n. D******n’s case is already successful in that they’ve made it to a trial on the merits. Should they win outright, the case could serve as a massive warning against the next group of liars who seek to undermine our e******ns and v****g process.
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U zombies never quit ur diatribe! We all know the t***h and deep down inside so do you!!

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Aug 19, 2021 09:11:00   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
The old Slatten is gone forever.


Absolutely!

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