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Republicans Are Blaming Pelosi for J*** 6 Attack. Their Claims Don't Add Up
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Jul 29, 2021 08:50:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JW wrote:
He used the phrase twice:

First time, "We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous e******n f***d never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again."

Second time, "Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. "

Here's the whole speech and its full context: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-j***6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial



Regarding the first use, if the e******n w*s f********t then he was entirely within his rights to say what he did as he did. It is not only Trump who believes the e******n was a complete fraud.

Regarding the second use, he gives the people credit for creating the phrase and expresses his determination to put an end to official dishonesty in Washington DC.

Neither one is a call to revolution and if you bother to read the rest of his words, you will see the full context which states explicitly, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD...
He used the phrase twice: br br First time, "... (show quote)



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Jul 29, 2021 09:08:06   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Michael10 wrote:
If you have nothing useful to add, just stay quiet.

Better to let folks wonder if you are a fool than open your mouth and prove you are.


But you seem to enjoy proving yourself one with every post.....

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Jul 29, 2021 09:12:06   #
1ProudAmerican
 
JW wrote:
He used the phrase twice:

First time, "We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous e******n f***d never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again."

Second time, "Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. "

Here's the whole speech and its full context: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-j***6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial



Regarding the first use, if the e******n w*s f********t then he was entirely within his rights to say what he did as he did. It is not only Trump who believes the e******n was a complete fraud.

Regarding the second use, he gives the people credit for creating the phrase and expresses his determination to put an end to official dishonesty in Washington DC.

Neither one is a call to revolution and if you bother to read the rest of his words, you will see the full context which states explicitly, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD...
He used the phrase twice: br br First time, "... (show quote)


GEEZE, don't try to explain it to him, that would require that he has functioning brain cells, which are absent in his cranium... X-ray of his...



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Jul 29, 2021 09:49:49   #
currahee506
 
Look who is calling the Republicans "gaslighters." This "journalist?" writes for a once upon a time called "newspaper" the mainstream "gaslighting rag." The New York times set the pace for the competitors of "gaslighting."

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Jul 29, 2021 10:31:36   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Michael10 wrote:
Sorry there's no way to write this except how it happened and that in trump called for his minions to come and stop the steal and they tried their best to stop the certification of the e******n, that's an i**********n by definition and you bunch of trump lackeys just keep trying to re-write history.


you really are closed minded, aren't you. I haven't got to see the "t***h" because the Dems, Nancy in particular, will not release all the data. I did see on TV, Trump say "go peacefully, I did see guards opening the doors and letting people in, I did see pics of guards taking selfies with the people they let in, I did see Ashely getting shot while climbing through a window. Now that's not to say that there wasn't a group of people who destroyed public property, went into areas they shouldn't have and made verbal threats against some Democrats (these were unarmed threats by the way), all wrong for doing those things. But to say that everybody who showed up for that rally were terrorist pisses me off, those were American citizens that felt like their voices weren't being heard, reminds me of the 60"s.

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Jul 29, 2021 10:56:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
you really are closed minded, aren't you. I haven't got to see the "t***h" because the Dems, Nancy in particular, will not release all the data. I did see on TV, Trump say "go peacefully, I did see guards opening the doors and letting people in, I did see pics of guards taking selfies with the people they let in, I did see Ashely getting shot while climbing through a window. Now that's not to say that there wasn't a group of people who destroyed public property, went into areas they shouldn't have and made verbal threats against some Democrats (these were unarmed threats by the way), all wrong for doing those things. But to say that everybody who showed up for that rally were terrorist pisses me off, those were American citizens that felt like their voices weren't being heard, reminds me of the 60"s.
you really are closed minded, aren't you. I haven... (show quote)


Same here. Passes me off. We ALL saw those things and now they're trying to pretend it didn't happen.

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Jul 29, 2021 12:57:05   #
Carlos Caliente
 
New York Times lost credibility years ago, f**e news and lefty propaganda, nothing more, can't even get the weather reports right.

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Jul 29, 2021 13:11:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Carlos Caliente wrote:
New York Times lost credibility years ago, f**e news and lefty propaganda, nothing more, can't even get the weather reports right.



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Jul 29, 2021 13:52:33   #
1ProudAmerican
 
microphor wrote:
you really are closed minded, aren't you. I haven't got to see the "t***h" because the Dems, Nancy in particular, will not release all the data. I did see on TV, Trump say "go peacefully, I did see guards opening the doors and letting people in, I did see pics of guards taking selfies with the people they let in, I did see Ashely getting shot while climbing through a window. Now that's not to say that there wasn't a group of people who destroyed public property, went into areas they shouldn't have and made verbal threats against some Democrats (these were unarmed threats by the way), all wrong for doing those things. But to say that everybody who showed up for that rally were terrorist pisses me off, those were American citizens that felt like their voices weren't being heard, reminds me of the 60"s.
you really are closed minded, aren't you. I haven... (show quote)


DEMONrats live in an alternative world









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Jul 29, 2021 14:18:25   #
dibaniba
 
You all say the same, influenced by the f**e media...too many anti Trump believers...

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Jul 29, 2021 14:49:13   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Michael10 wrote:
Republicans ever changing story on the Jan.6th i**********n.
first It happened and many said it was trump's doing
next it was it happened but it was A****A
next it was it happened but it was peaceful
next was it just didn't happen and no one was to blame
now it's back to it happened but it's Pelosi's fault.
Republicans need to get their story together and at least hold it together for a month or so but they will continue gaslighting their followers into believing any garbage they put out. They're all guilty of allowing this to happen and trying to cover it up only to advance their own political careers.



The New York Times
Nicholas Fandos
Wed, July 28, 2021, 7:21 AM

For months, Republican leaders have downplayed the J*** 6 assault on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. But on Tuesday, ahead of the first hearing of a special committee to investigate the r**t, they took their approach to new and misleading extremes, falsely blaming Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the violence.

“The American people deserve to know the t***h that Nancy Pelosi bears responsibility as speaker of the House for the tragedy that occurred on J*** 6,” said Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., the party’s No. 3 leader.

It amounted to an audacious attempt to rewrite the history of the worst attack on the Capitol in two centuries and preempt the damning testimony of four police officers who were brutalized by the mob of Donald Trump’s supporters. Here’s how Republicans twisted the facts.

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Pelosi is not responsible for securing the Capitol.

Looking past the motivations of the mob or Trump, Republicans said it had been up to Pelosi and her leadership team to protect the Capitol from the attack, particularly given that intelligence gathered in the weeks before it occurred pointed to the potential for violence against Congress.

“On J*** 6, these brave officers were put into a vulnerable, impossible position because the leadership at the top has failed,” said Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader.

Pelosi has considerable influence as the speaker, but she is not responsible for the security of Congress. That is the job of the C*****l P****e, an agency Pelosi only indirectly influences. Most decisions about securing the Capitol are made by the C*****l P****e Board, a body that consists of the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms and the Architect of the Capitol.

Pelosi shares control of the Capitol with the Senate majority leader, who at the time was Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Republicans have made no attempt to blame McConnell for the security breach or for failing to prepare for attack.

That charge also contradicts a bipartisan report produced by a pair of Senate committees that found evidence of systematic failures across American intelligence, military and law enforcement agencies, which misjudged the threat leading up to J*** 6 and were not properly trained to respond to it.

It also flatly contradicted congressional testimony, news reports and public accounts of that day, when Pelosi herself was one of the prime targets of the r****rs, some of whom stalked the halls of the Capitol chanting ominously, “Nancy… Where are you. Nancy?”

Pelosi does not control National Guard requests for the Capitol.

McCarthy and others said that Pelosi had refused pleas by the C*****l P****e to provide backup, like the National Guard, ahead of J*** 6.

But the speaker of the House does not control the National Guard. And while Congress could have requested support in advance, that decision lies with the C*****l P****e Board, not the speaker.

Members of the C*****l P****e board have provided conflicting accounts of a debate that occurred on Jan. 4 over whether to request the help in advance. Steven A. Sund, then the chief of C*****l P****e, has said he asked the board for the preemptive assistance but was rebuffed.

Among the reasons cited, Sund said, was a concern by the House sergeant-at-arms, Paul D. Irving, about the “optics” of bringing in reinforcements. Stefanik falsely attributed that concern to Pelosi, whose aides have said she only learned of the request days later.

A Times investigation detailed why it took nearly two hours to approve the deployment on J** 6. After r****rs breached the Capitol, Sund called Irving at 1:09 p.m. with an urgent request for the National Guard. Irving approached Pelosi’s staff with the request at 1:40 p.m., and her chief of staff relayed it to her at 1:43 p.m., when she approved it. But it would be hours more before Pentagon officials signed off on the deployment and informed the District of Columbia National Guard commander that he had permission to deploy the troops.
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I doubt if there is any credible evidence that Pelosi instigated the J** 6 r**ts, so until I see such evidence I decline to say she did. But what is undeniably TRUE is that she was adequately warned days prior to the event, and chose not to adequately prepare for a r**t. Why? That is subject to conjecture, but I have my opinion of the probable reasons.

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Jul 29, 2021 14:56:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I doubt if there is any credible evidence that Pelosi instigated the J** 6 r**ts, so until I see such evidence I decline to say she did. But what is undeniably TRUE is that she was adequately warned days prior to the event, and chose not to adequately prepare for a r**t. Why? That is subject to conjecture, but I have my opinion of the probable reasons.


If there is credible evidence of the left's involvement in the r**t, it is in the hands of the FBI by now. Maybe y'all should talk to them.

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Jul 29, 2021 15:08:26   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If there is credible evidence of the left's involvement in the r**t, it is in the hands of the FBI by now. Maybe y'all should talk to them.


It's a horror that the FBI and DOJ have become so politicized and weaponized by the democrats that no one can trust what they say. A true American tragedy.

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Jul 29, 2021 15:13:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
It's a horror that the FBI and DOJ have become so politicized and weaponized by the democrats that no one can trust what they say. A true American tragedy.


That is what Comey did for us. Or should I just say Obama?

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Jul 29, 2021 15:36:58   #
American Vet
 
RandyBrian wrote:
It's a horror that the FBI and DOJ have become so politicized and weaponized by the democrats that no one can trust what they say. A true American tragedy.



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