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https://www.foxnews.com/us/robert-e-lee-stonewall-jackson-statues-removed

Those who cannot remember the past,are condemned to repeat it......

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

I graduated from Robert E. Lee High School in Jacksonville Florida.

I'm not likely to forget or repeat.

I think it's a wonderful and God-given irony, in fact.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Santayana, BTW.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

What is Santayana?

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

History is written in stuff called "books", not statues. Guess what? History hasn't changed one iota.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Who. Carlos Santayana. Google your own quote.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Indeed.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

And those that make heroes out of t*****rs, are t*****rs themselves.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

It is fortunate for you that you are not able to call me a t*****r to my face. I would, with just cause, shove that accusation down your treasonous throat.

The left's attempts to slander and condemn Confederate Generals the caliber of Lee and Jackson is evil.
Spiritual wickedness in high and low places.

First and foremost, General Thomas Jackson was a devout Christian and remained so all of his life. And, he was no r****t. Although he inherited three s***es, he treated them fairly and humanly at all times. Over time, he acquired three more.

A s***e named Albert requested that Jackson purchase him and allow him to work for his freedom; Jackson did so and Albert was employed as a waiter in one of the Lexington hotels (Albert was paid for his work)

Another s***e named Amy also requested that Jackson purchase her from a public s***e auction and she served the family as a cook and housekeeper. The sixth, Emma, was a four-year-old orphan with a learning disability, accepted by Jackson from an aged widow, Emma was raised by his second wife, Mary Anna. In the circumstances of s***ery at the time, these six s***es lived decent and comfortable lives. As Mary Anna Jackson, in her 1895 memoir, said, "our servants without the firm guidance of their master, the excitement of the times proved so demoralizing to them that he deemed it best for me to provide them with good homes among the permanent residents".

Thomas Jackson graduated from the U.S. Military Academy, West Point 17th out of 59 students in the Class of 1846. He began his United States Army career as a second lieutenant in the 1st U.S. Artillery Regiment and was sent to fight in the Mexican–American War from 1846 to 1848. He served at the Siege of Veracruz and the battles of Contreras, Chapultepec, and Mexico City, eventually earning two brevet promotions, and the regular army rank of first lieutenant. It was in Mexico that Thomas Jackson first met Robert E. Lee.

In the spring of 1851, Jackson accepted a newly created teaching position at the Virginia Military Institute (VMI), in Lexington, Virginia. He became Professor of Natural and Experimental Philosophy and Instructor of Artillery. Parts of Jackson's curriculum are still taught at VMI, regarded as timeless military essentials: discipline, mobility, assessing the enemy's strength and intentions while attempting to conceal your own, and the efficiency of artillery combined with an infantry assault. (In Lexington, Jackson was known by many of the African Americans in town, both s***es and free b****s. In 1855, he organized Sunday School classes for b****s at the Presbyterian Church.)

At VMI, four cannons were alloted for artillery training. Jackson named them Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. These cannons are still on display at VMI.

Military historians regard Jackson as one of the most gifted tactical commanders in U.S. history. His tactics are studied even today.

General George Patton once told Eisenhower "I will be your Jackson." General Douglas MacArthur called Robert L. Eichelberger his Stonewall Jackson. Chesty Puller idolized Jackson, and carried George Henderson's biography of Jackson with him on campaigns. Alexander Vandegrift also idolized Jackson.

Neither Jackson nor Lee were t*****rs.

From the day our Constitution was ratified up until the Civil War, citizens remained loyal to their home states, not the Union as a whole. Jackson and Lee joined the Confederacy to defend their home state - Virginia. They were not motivated to do so in defense of s***ery.


A nation that is not proud of its history,
cannot be confident in its future.

A nation that is not certain of its values,
cannot summon the will to defend them.
President Donald Trump[/quote]

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Or thugs. See G****e F***d.

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

Books have been replaced genius.
We're paperless don't you know.
Easier lying 🤥
Leave the statues. Even Marcon's French agree. No changing street names, no tearing down statues....and they're French.
Wtf merica?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

That's what King George said.

Smedley_buzkill

You are not very well read, are you? You wouldn't know treason if it bit your mentally deficient butt. Tell you what, Einstein.... I will pay you $50 if you can show me anywhere in the US Constitution as it existed in 1860 where secession was prohibited. As a matter of fact, genius, four of the original thirteen states included a written reservation of a right to withdraw from the Union at their own discretion in their ratification statements. Those states were NY, RI, VA, and SC. Below are the links to the word-for-word transcriptions. I doubt you have the education to look it up yourself.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/ratva.as
https://history.nycourts.gov/ratification-statement/
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/ratri.asp
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/ratsc.asp

In case you didn't notice, the source is Yale Law School. I realize that is not as authoritative as Salon or Raw Story or some other brainless Liberal rag, (at least in your eyes) but do try and keep up.

As for Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson, you appear to be clueless there, also. Not surprising. Robert E Lee never purchased a s***e. The few he inherited he freed in accordance with the terms of the will which bequeathed them to him. Stonewall Jackson owned six s***es. Three he inherited, two he freed, and one child that was learning disabled whom no one wanted. He took the child in when no one else would.
There were four s***e states that remained in the Union, home to some half million s***es. These s***es were ignored by the Emancipation Proclamation. Among them were the four owned by one Julia Dent Grant, wife to Ulysses of the same surname. Ever hear of him? Rather than free her s***es, Mrs Grant gave them to her father who lived nearby so she and the good general could benefit from their bondage while avoiding the sobriquet of s***e owner.
Last but not least, you cannot commit treason against a foreign country. The s***e states had seceded. There is nowhere in the Constitution that said they could not. Why did Robert E Lee petition to have his citizenship reinstated? If he was already a citizen, it was unnecessary, and if not, there was no treason. Lee resigned from the US Army before he was even offered a position with the Virginia m*****a.
I have tried to clarify this without using too many big words, since you may not have anyone available to explain them to you.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

It is a shame that they are removing these statues, it still won’t change history.
Take down G****e F***d statue, he doesn’t deserve a statue, he was a drug user, and a felon. Can’t believe our country has become this bad with all this stupid CRT, garbage!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA