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Jul 6, 2021 09:14:22   #
moldyoldy
 
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my hard-earned cash to the campaign (overlooking the fact Trump claims to be a billionaire, but hey-ho) to help put things right because he, his sons and Guiliani have convinced me via Twitter and via Fox News that there was a ton of evidence that the e******n was s****n. I gave them $100. It doesn’t seem like a lot, but this close to Christmas, it matters. But this is important. This is about the future of the country! I can’t allow someone to get away with stealing an e******n. Suitcases of b****ts, machines flipping v**es, dead people v****g. Mountains of evidence. To me, trusting these guys as I do, this seems so obvious, I don’t understand why the e******n hasn’t already been overturned. I mean… it’s like, ‘punch in the face’ obvious, that there was major fraud going on here! It makes no sense. #StopTheSteal!

So… I’m reading the transcripts of the 50+ court cases, and something jumps out at me. Why, in virtually none of them, are the lawyers actually mentioning fraud? At all? Why are they not actually taking ANY of that stunning evidence they showed me (and convinced me to give them cash for) to court? Instead, they’re arguing about pissy little things, like the location of drop boxes and arguing whether someone had the authority to change some state e******n rules which affected a few hundred v**es here or there. And they’re not even winning those ones! Where’s the big stuff!? Where’s the dead people v****g?? Where’s the suitcase of b****ts?? Where is any ACTUAL mention of the fact the e******n is being stolen??

I’m still hearing Guiliani giving fire and brimstone speeches on Fox. I also saw him alleging mass fraud and bringing some woman who I suspect may have been drunk into what I thought was a courtroom, but now I think about it, maybe it was set up to look like a courtroom but really wasn’t? I don’t know. I’m not an expert in this stuff. But either way, he seems really sure about the fact he’s got tons of evidence. This is reassuring. But when he gets into an actual court… he seems really careful to not suggest there’s fraud. In fact, I notice that he did it once and actually mentioned to the judge that there was fraud, and then quickly corrected himself and say there wasn’t fraud.[1] Huh?? In fact, one of his other lawyers in Arizona actually said during a case “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the e******n”.[2] Huh???? What the hell??

So I am starting to get pissed. Because I paid money, in good faith, because I had been shown evidence that an e******n was s****n. But none of that evidence is being used. I don’t get it? What’s the harm in actually just throwing it into a courtroom anyway. I mean… it’s all true isn’t it?

As Republican senator Ben Sasse admits:

When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud — because there are legal consequences for lying to judges [3]

EXACTLY. No Trump Lawyer is actually alleging fraud nor have they done at all during this whole debacle, despite what is being loudly protested outside of court.

You can spout bulls**t on Twitter. You can spout bulls**t on Fox or OANN. You can spout bulls**t during press conferences in front of landscaping companies and in mock show-trials. But… you CANNOT spout bulls**t in court.
John Ferguson

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Jul 6, 2021 10:11:11   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my hard-earned cash to the campaign (overlooking the fact Trump claims to be a billionaire, but hey-ho) to help put things right because he, his sons and Guiliani have convinced me via Twitter and via Fox News that there was a ton of evidence that the e******n was s****n. I gave them $100. It doesn’t seem like a lot, but this close to Christmas, it matters. But this is important. This is about the future of the country! I can’t allow someone to get away with stealing an e******n. Suitcases of b****ts, machines flipping v**es, dead people v****g. Mountains of evidence. To me, trusting these guys as I do, this seems so obvious, I don’t understand why the e******n hasn’t already been overturned. I mean… it’s like, ‘punch in the face’ obvious, that there was major fraud going on here! It makes no sense. #StopTheSteal!

So… I’m reading the transcripts of the 50+ court cases, and something jumps out at me. Why, in virtually none of them, are the lawyers actually mentioning fraud? At all? Why are they not actually taking ANY of that stunning evidence they showed me (and convinced me to give them cash for) to court? Instead, they’re arguing about pissy little things, like the location of drop boxes and arguing whether someone had the authority to change some state e******n rules which affected a few hundred v**es here or there. And they’re not even winning those ones! Where’s the big stuff!? Where’s the dead people v****g?? Where’s the suitcase of b****ts?? Where is any ACTUAL mention of the fact the e******n is being stolen??

I’m still hearing Guiliani giving fire and brimstone speeches on Fox. I also saw him alleging mass fraud and bringing some woman who I suspect may have been drunk into what I thought was a courtroom, but now I think about it, maybe it was set up to look like a courtroom but really wasn’t? I don’t know. I’m not an expert in this stuff. But either way, he seems really sure about the fact he’s got tons of evidence. This is reassuring. But when he gets into an actual court… he seems really careful to not suggest there’s fraud. In fact, I notice that he did it once and actually mentioned to the judge that there was fraud, and then quickly corrected himself and say there wasn’t fraud.[1] Huh?? In fact, one of his other lawyers in Arizona actually said during a case “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the e******n”.[2] Huh???? What the hell??

So I am starting to get pissed. Because I paid money, in good faith, because I had been shown evidence that an e******n was s****n. But none of that evidence is being used. I don’t get it? What’s the harm in actually just throwing it into a courtroom anyway. I mean… it’s all true isn’t it?

As Republican senator Ben Sasse admits:

When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud — because there are legal consequences for lying to judges [3]

EXACTLY. No Trump Lawyer is actually alleging fraud nor have they done at all during this whole debacle, despite what is being loudly protested outside of court.

You can spout bulls**t on Twitter. You can spout bulls**t on Fox or OANN. You can spout bulls**t during press conferences in front of landscaping companies and in mock show-trials. But… you CANNOT spout bulls**t in court.
John Ferguson
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my har... (show quote)


I'm sorry...has there been a trial I don't know about?

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Jul 6, 2021 10:33:10   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
BigMike wrote:
I'm sorry...has there been a trial I don't know about?


Wondering the same

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Jul 6, 2021 10:50:09   #
Michael10
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my hard-earned cash to the campaign (overlooking the fact Trump claims to be a billionaire, but hey-ho) to help put things right because he, his sons and Guiliani have convinced me via Twitter and via Fox News that there was a ton of evidence that the e******n was s****n. I gave them $100. It doesn’t seem like a lot, but this close to Christmas, it matters. But this is important. This is about the future of the country! I can’t allow someone to get away with stealing an e******n. Suitcases of b****ts, machines flipping v**es, dead people v****g. Mountains of evidence. To me, trusting these guys as I do, this seems so obvious, I don’t understand why the e******n hasn’t already been overturned. I mean… it’s like, ‘punch in the face’ obvious, that there was major fraud going on here! It makes no sense. #StopTheSteal!

So… I’m reading the transcripts of the 50+ court cases, and something jumps out at me. Why, in virtually none of them, are the lawyers actually mentioning fraud? At all? Why are they not actually taking ANY of that stunning evidence they showed me (and convinced me to give them cash for) to court? Instead, they’re arguing about pissy little things, like the location of drop boxes and arguing whether someone had the authority to change some state e******n rules which affected a few hundred v**es here or there. And they’re not even winning those ones! Where’s the big stuff!? Where’s the dead people v****g?? Where’s the suitcase of b****ts?? Where is any ACTUAL mention of the fact the e******n is being stolen??

I’m still hearing Guiliani giving fire and brimstone speeches on Fox. I also saw him alleging mass fraud and bringing some woman who I suspect may have been drunk into what I thought was a courtroom, but now I think about it, maybe it was set up to look like a courtroom but really wasn’t? I don’t know. I’m not an expert in this stuff. But either way, he seems really sure about the fact he’s got tons of evidence. This is reassuring. But when he gets into an actual court… he seems really careful to not suggest there’s fraud. In fact, I notice that he did it once and actually mentioned to the judge that there was fraud, and then quickly corrected himself and say there wasn’t fraud.[1] Huh?? In fact, one of his other lawyers in Arizona actually said during a case “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the e******n”.[2] Huh???? What the hell??

So I am starting to get pissed. Because I paid money, in good faith, because I had been shown evidence that an e******n was s****n. But none of that evidence is being used. I don’t get it? What’s the harm in actually just throwing it into a courtroom anyway. I mean… it’s all true isn’t it?

As Republican senator Ben Sasse admits:

When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud — because there are legal consequences for lying to judges [3]

EXACTLY. No Trump Lawyer is actually alleging fraud nor have they done at all during this whole debacle, despite what is being loudly protested outside of court.

You can spout bulls**t on Twitter. You can spout bulls**t on Fox or OANN. You can spout bulls**t during press conferences in front of landscaping companies and in mock show-trials. But… you CANNOT spout bulls**t in court.
John Ferguson
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my har... (show quote)


There has been no such evidence presented because it doesn't exist. There was no massive fraud, dead people v****g, rigging of v****g machines are all a lie. If D******n for one second thought their v****g machines didn't work as expected, they would not be bringing cases against the liars who said there was.
You, like many others was suckered out of your money to prop up the so-called billionaire trump. There hasn't been any cases brought to court because they have NO evidence to back up their lies and a lawyer knows he can't lie in court without losing his license.
Sorry to be the one to tell you but you have been s**mmed by trump and his cronies for more than 4 years, wake up and face the facts that are right in front of you.

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Jul 6, 2021 10:58:13   #
moldyoldy
 
BigMike wrote:
I'm sorry...has there been a trial I don't know about?


When they claim to have a case of v***r f***d to present to the courts but when they present their claim they have no v***r f***d to speak about and refuse to say the word, it is obvious that they are playing a game. No evidence and no claim of it legally. But it keeps the sycophants riled up.

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Jul 6, 2021 11:15:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Michael10 wrote:
There has been no such evidence presented because it doesn't exist. There was no massive fraud, dead people v****g, rigging of v****g machines are all a lie. If D******n for one second thought their v****g machines didn't work as expected, they would not be bringing cases against the liars who said there was.
You, like many others was suckered out of your money to prop up the so-called billionaire trump. There hasn't been any cases brought to court because they have NO evidence to back up their lies and a lawyer knows he can't lie in court without losing his license.
Sorry to be the one to tell you but you have been s**mmed by trump and his cronies for more than 4 years, wake up and face the facts that are right in front of you.
There has been no such evidence presented because ... (show quote)


Yes...and gravity is a myth.

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Jul 6, 2021 11:20:21   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
moldyoldy wrote:
When they claim to have a case of v***r f***d to present to the courts but when they present their claim they have no v***r f***d to speak about and refuse to say the word, it is obvious that they are playing a game. No evidence and no claim of it legally. But it keeps the sycophants riled up.


And you know that's what they're doing?

Why, if you were them, would you show your hand when not actually at trial?

They' baiting D******n. They WANT D******n to go to trial. Then they get discovery, which I seriously doubt D******n will want. That's how it works.

Remember Mewler indicting the Russian company Concord? Only been a couple of years.

Concord showed up for discovery and Mewler didn't because he had no case.

Nothing you've seen is a trial. Just a bunch of motions.

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Jul 6, 2021 11:21:24   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
microphor wrote:
Wondering the same


They're confused by the pre-trial back and forth.

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Jul 6, 2021 11:38:37   #
moldyoldy
 
BigMike wrote:
And you know that's what they're doing?

Why, if you were them, would you show your hand when not actually at trial?

They' baiting D******n. They WANT D******n to go to trial. Then they get discovery, which I seriously doubt D******n will want. That's how it works.

Remember Mewler indicting the Russian company Concord? Only been a couple of years.

Concord showed up for discovery and Mewler didn't because he had no case.

Nothing you've seen is a trial. Just a bunch of motions.
And you know that's what they're doing? img src="... (show quote)


D******n does not need to show anything, those claiming problems will need to prove their case.


The lawyers are a joke.
In its court filing requesting the lawsuit be dismissed, Giuliani’s attorney argued the court lacked jurisdiction. Powell’s attorneys wrote in a court document that her statements were not facts but opinions she still holds.

“No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” they wrote.

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Jul 6, 2021 13:18:08   #
AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana
 
moldyoldy wrote:
D******n does not need to show anything, those claiming problems will need to prove their case.


The lawyers are a joke.
In its court filing requesting the lawsuit be dismissed, Giuliani’s attorney argued the court lacked jurisdiction. Powell’s attorneys wrote in a court document that her statements were not facts but opinions she still holds.

“No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” they wrote.


Reasonable and the Democrats are two polar opposites! Tell me life was horrible for you under four years of Trump! Now you can see the effects of Biden reversing everything Trump did and what it’s doing to America and try to tell me that’s all good! Americans Are being separated from their money with Biden’s lies because everything is going up and people will have less disposable income things to illegitimate Joe and the Dumbocrats…..fact💪🏻

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Jul 6, 2021 13:47:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AmericanEagle wrote:
Reasonable and the Democrats are two polar opposites! Tell me life was horrible for you under four years of Trump! Now you can see the effects of Biden reversing everything Trump did and what it’s doing to America and try to tell me that’s all good! Americans Are being separated from their money with Biden’s lies because everything is going up and people will have less disposable income things to illegitimate Joe and the Dumbocrats…..fact💪🏻


I am far more incensed and concerned over paying for trumps tax gifts to himself and the rich as well as his cost to me personally when the price of beans and other grains went down the drain.

Biden has not yet done anything which affects our day to day life style.. he may do so , most administratons manage to PO. but only the orange POS, the former occupent of the oval office has tried to destroy our country..



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Jul 6, 2021 14:07:10   #
AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana
 
permafrost wrote:
I am far more incensed and concerned over paying for trumps tax gifts to himself and the rich as well as his cost to me personally when the price of beans and other grains went down the drain.

Biden has not yet done anything which affects our day to day life style.. he may do so , most administratons manage to PO. but only the orange POS, the former occupent of the oval office has tried to destroy our country..


Well that changed you know when he did the Canada and Mexico trade agreement that benefited farmers so they could compete. Like anything there can be some pain during negotiations but at least he was fighting for them not screwing them like the Democrats always do. And Joe is also going to bring back the death tax and farmers that have a bunch of land pass on to their children will be screwed because they will have to sell a portion of the land in order to pay the taxes! Biden and the Democrats have screwed everybody in America except for the i******s because they will get the free stuff. However he is responsible for all the deaths summoned to her to get here plus the human trafficking and sex rings with the cartels to pay off debt. Yeah Joe’s really doing awesome and Trump did really bad wasn’t he! Get a clue!
2024 Bring back America once again!🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Jul 6, 2021 14:28:00   #
moldyoldy
 
AmericanEagle wrote:
Well that changed you know when he did the Canada and Mexico trade agreement that benefited farmers so they could compete. Like anything there can be some pain during negotiations but at least he was fighting for them not screwing them like the Democrats always do. And Joe is also going to bring back the death tax and farmers that have a bunch of land pass on to their children will be screwed because they will have to sell a portion of the land in order to pay the taxes! Biden and the Democrats have screwed everybody in America except for the i******s because they will get the free stuff. However he is responsible for all the deaths summoned to her to get here plus the human trafficking and sex rings with the cartels to pay off debt. Yeah Joe’s really doing awesome and Trump did really bad wasn’t he! Get a clue!
2024 Bring back America once again!🇺🇸🇺🇸
Well that changed you know when he did the Canada ... (show quote)



Trump basically added a comma to the nafta agreement.

https://www.thebalance.com/amp/donald-trump-nafta-4111368

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Jul 6, 2021 14:29:23   #
ChJoe
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my hard-earned cash to the campaign (overlooking the fact Trump claims to be a billionaire, but hey-ho) to help put things right because he, his sons and Guiliani have convinced me via Twitter and via Fox News that there was a ton of evidence that the e******n was s****n. I gave them $100. It doesn’t seem like a lot, but this close to Christmas, it matters. But this is important. This is about the future of the country! I can’t allow someone to get away with stealing an e******n. Suitcases of b****ts, machines flipping v**es, dead people v****g. Mountains of evidence. To me, trusting these guys as I do, this seems so obvious, I don’t understand why the e******n hasn’t already been overturned. I mean… it’s like, ‘punch in the face’ obvious, that there was major fraud going on here! It makes no sense. #StopTheSteal!

So… I’m reading the transcripts of the 50+ court cases, and something jumps out at me. Why, in virtually none of them, are the lawyers actually mentioning fraud? At all? Why are they not actually taking ANY of that stunning evidence they showed me (and convinced me to give them cash for) to court? Instead, they’re arguing about pissy little things, like the location of drop boxes and arguing whether someone had the authority to change some state e******n rules which affected a few hundred v**es here or there. And they’re not even winning those ones! Where’s the big stuff!? Where’s the dead people v****g?? Where’s the suitcase of b****ts?? Where is any ACTUAL mention of the fact the e******n is being stolen??

I’m still hearing Guiliani giving fire and brimstone speeches on Fox. I also saw him alleging mass fraud and bringing some woman who I suspect may have been drunk into what I thought was a courtroom, but now I think about it, maybe it was set up to look like a courtroom but really wasn’t? I don’t know. I’m not an expert in this stuff. But either way, he seems really sure about the fact he’s got tons of evidence. This is reassuring. But when he gets into an actual court… he seems really careful to not suggest there’s fraud. In fact, I notice that he did it once and actually mentioned to the judge that there was fraud, and then quickly corrected himself and say there wasn’t fraud.[1] Huh?? In fact, one of his other lawyers in Arizona actually said during a case “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the e******n”.[2] Huh???? What the hell??

So I am starting to get pissed. Because I paid money, in good faith, because I had been shown evidence that an e******n was s****n. But none of that evidence is being used. I don’t get it? What’s the harm in actually just throwing it into a courtroom anyway. I mean… it’s all true isn’t it?

As Republican senator Ben Sasse admits:

When Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud — because there are legal consequences for lying to judges [3]

EXACTLY. No Trump Lawyer is actually alleging fraud nor have they done at all during this whole debacle, despite what is being loudly protested outside of court.

You can spout bulls**t on Twitter. You can spout bulls**t on Fox or OANN. You can spout bulls**t during press conferences in front of landscaping companies and in mock show-trials. But… you CANNOT spout bulls**t in court.
John Ferguson
I am a hard-core Trump supporter. I’ve paid my har... (show quote)


So this is written by Ben Sasse? Hey Ben, when does a single trial to actually hear and try the evidence begin??

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Jul 6, 2021 14:39:49   #
moldyoldy
 
ChJoe wrote:
So this is written by Ben Sasse? Hey Ben, when does a single trial to actually hear and try the evidence begin??


The only trials will be d******n suing those claiming v***r f***d.

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