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Sep 6, 2014 09:41:26   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
In the C*******t Manifesto, Karl Marx outlines the ten steps necessary to bring about the destruction of a free civil society, so that it might be replaced by an all-powerful government apparatus.

President Obama is a socialist, because socialism/f*****m is Islam-compliant, insisting on submission to an ideological State, where there is no individual freedom and where the government collective dictates. Islamo-f*****m is the same way. Keep this in mind while perusing the Ten Planks of Marxism, as laid out by Marx in 1848:

The Ten Planks of Marxism

1. The abolition of private property rights and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. The courts have twisted the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to give government more right of eminent domain than originally intended. Also, private property is now subject to taxation and can be taken from you, if you cannot afford to pay taxes on it—which begs the question: do you really own it, if it can be taken from you, despite the fact you paid in full?

2. A heavily progressive income tax. The 16th Amendment of the Constitution, (which many Constitutional scholars insist was never properly ratified) and the Social Security Act of 1936, among other initiatives, established the diminishing ability of Americans to save and amass private wealth or to donate vigorously to the religious faiths of their choice. Americans’ ability to tithe was diminished, as was their right to decide how to invest retirement savings.

3. Abolition of all inheritance rights. The estate tax, also known as the “death tax,” has at least partially accomplished the abolition of inheritance, since the government takes 55% of your estate, currently, upon your death.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. We call it government seizures, tax liens, forfeiture, et cetera. There are tax laws and drug laws on the books allowing the government to seize your property or money, if it is suspected as being the fruit of a poison tree—tax c***ting or drug dealing, for example. The government need only suspect wrongdoing, and no due process is given, directly in violation to your due process rights in the Constitution!

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. The Federal Reserve System, against which no private bank may compete, actually holds no reserves and allows the government to control the money supply by printing a currency that is not backed by any precious metal. This currency holds a monopoly in the US as the only currency allowed for payment of all debts and has, due to government inflationary policy (some call this “legal counterfeiting”), lost 98% of its value between 1913 and 2013. How much wealth has the government destroyed this way?

6. Centralization of the means of communication and t***sportation in the hands of the State. In the US, communication and t***sportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, the Department of T***sportation, the Interstate Commerce Commission, and the Federal Aviation Administration. There are also a number of onerous Executive Orders that claim centralized control for the Executive Branch. There is the federal postal monopoly and AMTRAK, which are government-owned enterprises with unfair competitive advantages over the private sector.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. The power-grabs are legion: the Department of Agriculture; the Department of Commerce and Labor; the Department of Interior; the Environmental Protection Agency; the Bureau of Land Management; the IRS control of business through corporate regulations; the Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 which says farmers will receive government aid only by relinquishing control of their private farming activities.

8. Equal liability of all to labor; establishment of industrial armies. Social Security is a plan that takes the place of individual liability, or responsibility. Running up the national debt, in order to ens***e all Americans collectively is another strategy to enforce equal liability. So is the minimum wage law, which disallows people the freedom to make individual agreements acceptable to both parties, since government is a party to every wage agreement, under penalty of law. Government subsidization of union activities helps establish industrial armies.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country. Agenda 21 is a non-binding action plan of the United Nations with an eye to sustainable development. It came out of the UN Conference on Environment and Development that was held in Rio de Janeiro, in 1992. It is an agenda that can be executed at all levels of government, in the 21st Century.

10. Free education for all children in government schools; abolition of children's factory labor in its present form; combination of education with industrial production. American public schools are increasingly, under the dictates of Common Core, turning into socialist government indoctrination centers. Their purpose is to train students to submit to government power. The idea of “majority-rules democracy” is valued over “republican democracy” (which protects the rights of minorities by making “natural rights” difficult to cancel). Rather than teaching students “Work hard, so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor!” students are taught instead to pay their “fair share” to the collective, so government can better parent everyone.

The Question

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become? If you are concerned about keeping America free, you must v**e for the Constitution every chance you get!

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Sep 6, 2014 09:52:11   #
stan3186
 
JMHO wrote:
In the C*******t Manifesto, Karl Marx outlines the ten steps necessary to bring about the destruction of a free civil society, so that it might be replaced by an all-powerful government apparatus.

President Obama is a socialist, because socialism/f*****m is Islam-compliant, insisting on submission to an ideological State, where there is no individual freedom and where the government collective dictates. Islamo-f*****m is the same way. Keep this in mind while perusing the Ten Planks of Marxism, as laid out by Marx in 1848:

The Ten Planks of Marxism

1. The abolition of private property rights and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. The courts have twisted the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to give government more right of eminent domain than originally intended. Also, private property is now subject to taxation and can be taken from you, if you cannot afford to pay taxes on it—which begs the question: do you really own it, if it can be taken from you, despite the fact you paid in full?

2. A heavily progressive income tax. The 16th Amendment of the Constitution, (which many Constitutional scholars insist was never properly ratified) and the Social Security Act of 1936, among other initiatives, established the diminishing ability of Americans to save and amass private wealth or to donate vigorously to the religious faiths of their choice. Americans’ ability to tithe was diminished, as was their right to decide how to invest retirement savings.

3. Abolition of all inheritance rights. The estate tax, also known as the “death tax,” has at least partially accomplished the abolition of inheritance, since the government takes 55% of your estate, currently, upon your death.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. We call it government seizures, tax liens, forfeiture, et cetera. There are tax laws and drug laws on the books allowing the government to seize your property or money, if it is suspected as being the fruit of a poison tree—tax c***ting or drug dealing, for example. The government need only suspect wrongdoing, and no due process is given, directly in violation to your due process rights in the Constitution!

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. The Federal Reserve System, against which no private bank may compete, actually holds no reserves and allows the government to control the money supply by printing a currency that is not backed by any precious metal. This currency holds a monopoly in the US as the only currency allowed for payment of all debts and has, due to government inflationary policy (some call this “legal counterfeiting”), lost 98% of its value between 1913 and 2013. How much wealth has the government destroyed this way?

6. Centralization of the means of communication and t***sportation in the hands of the State. In the US, communication and t***sportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, the Department of T***sportation, the Interstate Commerce Commission, and the Federal Aviation Administration. There are also a number of onerous Executive Orders that claim centralized control for the Executive Branch. There is the federal postal monopoly and AMTRAK, which are government-owned enterprises with unfair competitive advantages over the private sector.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. The power-grabs are legion: the Department of Agriculture; the Department of Commerce and Labor; the Department of Interior; the Environmental Protection Agency; the Bureau of Land Management; the IRS control of business through corporate regulations; the Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 which says farmers will receive government aid only by relinquishing control of their private farming activities.

8. Equal liability of all to labor; establishment of industrial armies. Social Security is a plan that takes the place of individual liability, or responsibility. Running up the national debt, in order to ens***e all Americans collectively is another strategy to enforce equal liability. So is the minimum wage law, which disallows people the freedom to make individual agreements acceptable to both parties, since government is a party to every wage agreement, under penalty of law. Government subsidization of union activities helps establish industrial armies.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country. Agenda 21 is a non-binding action plan of the United Nations with an eye to sustainable development. It came out of the UN Conference on Environment and Development that was held in Rio de Janeiro, in 1992. It is an agenda that can be executed at all levels of government, in the 21st Century.

10. Free education for all children in government schools; abolition of children's factory labor in its present form; combination of education with industrial production. American public schools are increasingly, under the dictates of Common Core, turning into socialist government indoctrination centers. Their purpose is to train students to submit to government power. The idea of “majority-rules democracy” is valued over “republican democracy” (which protects the rights of minorities by making “natural rights” difficult to cancel). Rather than teaching students “Work hard, so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor!” students are taught instead to pay their “fair share” to the collective, so government can better parent everyone.

The Question

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become? If you are concerned about keeping America free, you must v**e for the Constitution every chance you get!
In the C*******t Manifesto, Karl Marx outlines the... (show quote)


We are now a socialist country, thanks to Obama and his liberal friends. Congratulations on destroying the most free country on earth.

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Sep 6, 2014 10:22:50   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
JMHO wrote:

The Question

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become? If you are concerned about keeping America free, you must v**e for the Constitution every chance you get!



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great post!!!!
To answer the question, America, in my view is about 90% socialism. It has taken the needed steps to become full fledged 100% socialist, but is holding back to make sure they can proceed to full fledged without too much ruckus. You'll note that almost daily more and more tyrannical ideas, policies, and laws are put forward - these, I feel, are a test, and as each one is tolerated, comes more and more. Eventually we will wake up one morning to learn Socialism is the "norm". That is going to be a tad late to do much about it. It needs to be nipped RIGHT NOW as it was NOT nipped 10 years ago.

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Sep 6, 2014 10:25:50   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Tasine wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great post!!!!
To answer the question, America, in my view is about 90% socialism. It has taken the needed steps to become full fledged 100% socialist, but is holding back to make sure they can proceed to full fledged without too much ruckus. You'll note that almost daily more and more tyrannical ideas, policies, and laws are put forward - these, I feel, are a test, and as each one is tolerated, comes more and more. Eventually we will wake up one morning to learn Socialism is the "norm". That is going to be a tad late to do much about it. It needs to be nipped RIGHT NOW as it was NOT nipped 10 years ago.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 6, 2014 10:52:49   #
bahmer
 
Tasine wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great post!!!!
To answer the question, America, in my view is about 90% socialism. It has taken the needed steps to become full fledged 100% socialist, but is holding back to make sure they can proceed to full fledged without too much ruckus. You'll note that almost daily more and more tyrannical ideas, policies, and laws are put forward - these, I feel, are a test, and as each one is tolerated, comes more and more. Eventually we will wake up one morning to learn Socialism is the "norm". That is going to be a tad late to do much about it. It needs to be nipped RIGHT NOW as it was NOT nipped 10 years ago.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 6, 2014 11:39:24   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Tasine wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great post!!!!
To answer the question, America, in my view is about 90% socialism. It has taken the needed steps to become full fledged 100% socialist, but is holding back to make sure they can proceed to full fledged without too much ruckus. You'll note that almost daily more and more tyrannical ideas, policies, and laws are put forward - these, I feel, are a test, and as each one is tolerated, comes more and more. Eventually we will wake up one morning to learn Socialism is the "norm". That is going to be a tad late to do much about it. It needs to be nipped RIGHT NOW as it was NOT nipped 10 years ago.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)


I'm all for some nippin? :thumbup:

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Sep 6, 2014 11:53:54   #
stan3186
 
the waker wrote:
I'm all for some nippin? :thumbup:


Just need to find the right shears, maybe an AK?

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Sep 6, 2014 12:32:23   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
stan3186 wrote:
Just need to find the right shears, maybe an AK?


Nah. We don't want to hurt anyone. Just convince them that it's way past time for them to go quietly into the night.

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Sep 6, 2014 13:04:29   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Nah. We don't want to hurt anyone. Just convince them that it's way past time for them to go quietly into the night.


:thumbup:

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Sep 7, 2014 09:58:02   #
kush
 
So, let me get this right.....As an anti-socialist, you are against, and do not use any roads ,schools,taxes, hospitals,police,fireman,etc. What a load of simplistic crap that. if followed, leads us nowhere.

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Sep 7, 2014 11:53:42   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
V**e all Non-Constitutionalist out of office at every e******n and in 12 years they all will be gone... Don D.

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Sep 7, 2014 12:13:36   #
SouthernBelle Loc: Under the Dome
 
kush wrote:
So, let me get this right.....As an anti-socialist, you are against, and do not use any roads ,schools,taxes, hospitals,police,fireman,etc. What a load of simplistic crap that. if followed, leads us nowhere.


@Kush, please tell us, have you always suffered from reading comprehension difficulties? I haven't seen anywhere or anyone who said they were "against" ANY, or do not use ANY of those things you mention. Personally, I am against the outrageous amount of money we workers pay in taxes to support the moochers, so I'll give you that one! The rest you mentioned; roads, schools, hospitals, police, fireman are totally moot. ALL of them can be handled at the local level by States, Counties and Cities. In actuality you can drop hospitals off your list entirely, with the exception of perhaps Military or VA hospitals. (I believe the Federal Government has a duty and obligation to care for our servicemen/women and wounded warriors and IF we had an America where everyone paid SOME federal tax, that would be no problem.) Why drop other hospitals? They could be self funded, investor funded or charitably funded, or any combination thereof. In other words, a free market business!

There is a MUCH, MUCH bigger problem with socialism than the few examples you give, including your "etc". Socialism will destroy everything you hold near and dear. Literally! It consumes everything in its way to total domination and control. Including you, if you step out of line. You will no longer have any choices to make, from where you work or live, what you can eat or drink, if you have children or not, where you go to school if you are allowed, what pittance you might be paid, if you have heat or electricity, what you read, where you can go, ALL choice will be gone. Luxuries? Vacations? Fahgetaboutit! All businesses, factories, agriculture, banking, utilities, schools, you name it, it will eventually ALL be controlled by our master/supreme leader and his ruthless minions to keep us in line and dumbed down.

Don't think this could happen? Think again! It's already forming, slipping in thru the shadows, slowly entrapping minds like yours who have been fed the propaganda long enough to think, "hey, this ain't so bad, the government is my friend, it's their JOB to take care of us! They are the only one trying to make things "fair" and "equal" for all of us!" Right, Kush? Is this what you really want? Really?? Don't think it could happen? Expand your mind! Read the t***h about Stalin, Hitler and even China! See what's happening in Venezuela and even though it's not socialism, read all you can on ISIS and how they want worldwide dominance through their Caliph**e, murdering, slaughtering ANYONE who won't convert to Islam and follow the dictates laid forth in their "peaceful" ::cough,
choke:: BS Kuran and Sharia law!

BTW, how old are you? (approximately) Did you go to college and where did you attend?

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Sep 7, 2014 12:57:42   #
SouthernBelle Loc: Under the Dome
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
V**e all Non-Constitutionalist out of office at every e******n and in 12 years they all will be gone... Don D.


Don,

While I love your idea of v****g out all non-Constitutionalists, it wil never happen. There are too many Americans that refuse to wake up to reality. Besides, those intent on destroying America will never, EVER just go away. Even if they falter or lose a battle or two they will just regroup and continue the war.

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Sep 7, 2014 13:06:47   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I fear you may be correct... It's really a crying shame that this happened to a Country that has been home for 71 years... I'm glade my parents aren't here to see what's happened to Country they sacrificed for and fought for in WWII... I'm kind of lucky, my race is almost won... Don D.

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Sep 7, 2014 13:36:58   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
Sorry to break it to you but the Federal Resere is not a government bank, it's privately owned and controlled by an international conglomerate of private banking institutions. Putting "federal" in it's name was a ruse to make us all think it is actually federal, but it is not. What you think are government policies, aren't. Our money-supply is created as a debt to private-bankers. As long as this continues the nation's wealth will continue to be siphoned off into priivate vaults; leaving scarcity in it's wake. Our colonial ancestors fought the American Revolution to be free of the same kind of institutionalized usury that is our system today.

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