Geno36 Loc: Texas

stan3186

I really don't see a reason for this post. Are you saying that you don't wish to fall under the social contract that is America. Okay, then move somewhere that doesn't have any kind of government. I have no idea where that may be, but you welcome to go there.

Geno36 Loc: Texas

I am not saying anything. I merely put up a link to an article of interest. Do with it what you wish.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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And this is true and says everything a person should want to know that it is wisdom that wrote this article: "Arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler in exchange for protection of their remaining rights.

So, a group of rulers gets to ignore our rights, take away our money (continually), punish us when it wishes, and even send us off to war. And that’s all okay because we somehow agreed to the deal. It’s a “contract,” after all."

We, as a nation, do need service people for military, for foreign affairs, and for maintenance of infrastructure. They are needed to run the affairs of a federal government. They ARE NOT NEEDED to order citizens around, target citizens, write laws against citizens. They are NOT NEEDED to put citizens in harms way, they are NOT NEEDED to decide how people live their lives. They are NOT NEEDED to dictate what type toilets our homes have, and they are NOT NEEDED to extract our incomes from our pockets.

I have signed no contract giving ANYONE AUTHORITY to do a single thing to me or for me. So what constitutes a contract if no signatures are on the line? And I see "social contract" as just more smoke that goes into making a s**m with which to control Americans.

Loved this article! Hope everyone reads it! If they don't, it's their loss.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

You would be surprised at the number of people who have come to despise the government that has incrementally over the decades become more tyrannical than representative. I, for one, want no part of a "social contract" (that isn't a contract) with a tyrannical government. Why would anyone want that? Now if we truly had a representative government that would be different, though I fail to see why we need ANY government to tell us how to live our lives and take more and more and more of our money to FRIVOLOUSLY WASTE ON THINGS WE THINK ARE BAD. It seems to me that you don't do a lot of critical thinking if you object to this article.

stan3186

Never said I objected to the article. I just don't get the point of it. You tell me where there is a civilized society that doesn't have some form of government. The social contract (which is not a contract) is in place with every government on earth. It would be great, I guess, if governments were not necessary. But, I do believe they are necessary otherwise you would have total anarchy. Everybody would do what ever they wanted to without restraint. Do you think that would be a better solution than a government that at least tries to keep order? Our and every other government is far from perfect, but I do believe that no government is probably not such a great idea.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

I think you failed to read all I wrote. I wrote: "We, as a nation, do need service people for military, for foreign affairs, and for maintenance of infrastructure. They are needed to run the affairs of a federal government. They ARE NOT NEEDED to order citizens around, target citizens, write laws against citizens. They are NOT NEEDED to put citizens in harms way, they are NOT NEEDED to decide how people live their lives. They are NOT NEEDED to dictate what type toilets our homes have, and they are NOT NEEDED to extract our incomes from our pockets."

stan3186

And you will receive no argument from me on those things. But, if people were left to their own devices, bear in mind that there are differing morals to different people. For instance, some people see no harm in having "consensual gay sex" with a nine year old boy. They are just boy lovers. Some people have no problems marrying 8 year old girls, like the ISIS people. Some people have no problems taking from you and yours because you didn't earn it anyway according to the President. On and on. So, government needs to be brought under control. It needs to represent the majority of people. It doesn't need to govern everything in our lives but as long as we give them the power to make laws and exceptions to laws, then they always will go to far.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Do you believe government or family has the better right to hand out justice in such a case as you mention re sex with a 9 year old boy?

stan3186

Ha, I don't know but I guess it depends on the family? Most would be outraged I think, some would think so what everyone around these parts does it.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Think of ALL the people you know. How many of them do you believe would "think so what? Everyone around these parts does it." If there was no law that said you cannot murder other people, do you believe most of the people YOU KNOW would run out and k**l everyone who had ever done them wrong? And do you believe the rest of the people you know would justify his actions?

What I am getting at is this: Restrictive laws are aimed at the few in society who have no morals - but they are also used at controlling those who DO have morals. Most of us don't have to be FORCED to do the right thing, and those who DO have to be forced to do the right thing, can be forced by those around them ever bit as effectively as Washington DC corrupt politicians writing tons of laws which overwhelm society by their sheer volume and impact on those who never need a LAW to force them to be decent people.

CowboyMilt

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE ONE WE HAVE. MANY THINGS CAN BE DONE AWAY WITH FOR EXAMPLE IRS WHICH HAS PROVEN TO BE OBUMMERS "HIT SQUAD" COULD BE ELIMINATED & OUR TAX STRUCTURE COULD BE MADE MUCH MORE REASONABLE & PAYERS COULD HANDLE IT WITH A "POST CARD" IF ALL THE TAX CODES WERE SIMPLIFIED. EPA IS USELESS & KEEPS WE THE PEOPLE FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THE WEALTH OF OIL & OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES WE HAVE JUST TO NAME A FEW...WE HAVE OTHERS THAT COULD BE REDUCED OR ELIMINATED AS WELL. WE NEED TO BEEF UP OUR MILITARY TO GIVE US A CHANCE AT LEADERSHIP IN THE WORLD AS YOU MAY SEE SOON...SMALLER GOVERNMENT NOT BIGGER...TERM LIMITATIONS ON CONGRESS PERSONS & ETC. NO MORE "LIFERS" IN OUR LEADERSHIP WHO BECOME DISENGAGED FROM THE PEOPLE THE REPRESENT FOR THERE OWN BENEFITS...PERIOD.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I've had so many people tell me the FDA, for example is SOOOO important because it keeps us safe. Then why is it that when a legal drug does harm someone, the entity sued is the pharmaceutical company? Seems to me the one being sued should be the FDA who approved the drug, NOT the pharmaceutical company who then produced it or the doctor who legally prescribed it? If these agencies are the TRUE responsible parties, and they claim to be the final say on everything in the nation, then THEY are the ones people should be suing, right? It's time we fight fire with fire. If they are going to constantly harass us, it seems to me it's a good idea to harass them, true?

stan3186

I agree, I wonder why nobody actually sues the government agencies. Probably because they are exempted somehow?

rhodaunit Loc: Holland, Iowa

If the FDA actually did their job that'd be great and worth the money we fork over for them. But they don't, and therefore they're not. And I don't remember signing a contract either for our government to lie to us and thieve our money. Because that's what they're doing when they lie through teeth about the reasons they give us for wh**ever it is they purport needing to do, ie. fund rebels, or fund i*****l i*******ts, fund bail outs for banks, let the federal reserve print our money without anything backing it, only to turn around and owe them the money, plus interest. Basically we are paying our government to rip us off. I don't think any of us signed up for that. Therefore the article has everything to do with our current situation and doesn't mean a person needs to leave to get away from it. We do need everyone to understand the facts so we can unite against this despotic government and get rid of them. They have gotten mixed up about who they work for. They think they work for corporations and not the citizens.