If the 'rich' create the jobs, will they stay rich if the workers don't work?
Rinaldi wrote:
If the 'rich' create the jobs, will they stay rich if the workers don't work?
If you don't like your pay, get a better job.
I had a solar system installed and had a chance to talk to the two guys that were doing the install from start to finish. I was impressed by how well they knew their jobs, we were talking about how much they got paid, and benefits. I had said that they should be making somewhere around $30 to $35 an hour, Matt indicated he was paying around $35 with benefits and withholding, they laughed and said that was a good one, $18 for the junior guy, $20 for the senior supervisor. I asked about benefits and they snorted and said yeah right, you're a funny guy.
The owner of the solar company was making a flat $8000 for the install of equipment I negotiated a wholesale price on. So for three days of install work, his guys (both of them) were getting paid roughly a bit under $1000. This is pure unadulterated greed not to be willing to gladly pay trained and competent people a decent wage when they are making this much money.
I asked a friend what he paid his heating and air guys and he said anywhere from $25 to around $35, when I asked if he needed good guys he said hell yeah, he needed a couple of extra crews. I told the solar guys they had a job, and tell any of the other guys as well. They started the same week, told Matt to go screw himself.
Half the contractors I know fit the greedy model, paying guys substandard wages, under the table to avoid worker's comp, no overtime even though they are being worked 50 or more hours a week, meanwhile they are living the life and claiming minimal incomes for tax purposes. The other category is the bigger guys, they may cost a bit more but everything they do is above board.
woodguru wrote:
I had a solar system installed and had a chance to talk to the two guys that were doing the install from start to finish. I was impressed by how well they knew their jobs, we were talking about how much they got paid, and benefits. I had said that they should be making somewhere around $30 to $35 an hour, Matt indicated he was paying around $35 with benefits and withholding, they laughed and said that was a good one, $18 for the junior guy, $20 for the senior supervisor. I asked about benefits and they snorted and said yeah right, you're a funny guy.
The owner of the solar company was making a flat $8000 for the install of equipment I negotiated a wholesale price on. So for three days of install work, his guys (both of them) were getting paid roughly a bit under $1000. This is pure unadulterated greed not to be willing to gladly pay trained and competent people a decent wage when they are making this much money.
I asked a friend what he paid his heating and air guys and he said anywhere from $25 to around $35, when I asked if he needed good guys he said hell yeah, he needed a couple of extra crews. I told the solar guys they had a job, and tell any of the other guys as well. They started the same week, told Matt to go screw himself.
Half the contractors I know fit the greedy model, paying guys substandard wages, under the table to avoid worker's comp, no overtime even though they are being worked 50 or more hours a week, meanwhile they are living the life and claiming minimal incomes for tax purposes. The other category is the bigger guys, they may cost a bit more but everything they do is above board.
I had a solar system installed and had a chance to... (
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First: It is so sad these guys are FORCED to work for that person....<sarcasm intended>
Second: It is none of your business.
Third: By using that company, you helped the 'evil' owner. If you really do what you preach - you would have paid a bit more for the 'bigger' guy.
Typical hypocrite liberal.
American Vet wrote:
First: It is so sad these guys are FORCED to work for that person....<sarcasm intended>
Second: It is none of your business.
Third: By using that company, you helped the 'evil' owner. If you really do what you preach - you would have paid a bit more for the 'bigger' guy.
Typical hypocrite liberal.
Good News for Workers. Pay growth has been substandard for years. Companies facing the US labor shortage are simply deciding to pay workers more.
DASHY wrote:
Good News for Workers. Pay growth has been substandard for years. Companies facing the US labor shortage are simply deciding to pay workers more.
And that's how the system works.
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