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Jun 23, 2021 09:49:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
People know they’re not innocent. Where do you come up with this schlock? The rich have always gotten their way lawfully or unlawfully. Money has always greased the wheels. People and politicians rail against it but nothing really changes.


Are you olde enough to remember a time when things were more fair ? When the American People could Actually afford to live here. Without every day being a major battle to get through ?
Do you remember that period in time.
When republicans were quieter that church mice ?
Everyone made money, everyone had a job, everyone enjoyed living in the greatest country on earth.
Do you remember ?
When Friday nights and weekends were major celebrations ?
Of your time ,rose?

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Jun 23, 2021 10:08:53   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Biden already has.
No new taxes if you make under $400,000.
We’re not trying to destroy it we’re trying to make it work so that you’ll stop blaming democrats all the time.
We have no use on this planet for cabillionaires. They serve no purpose.
Other than greed !
There do nothing for economics.
They hire nobody. They refuse to pay decent wages. They want you to subsidize their workforce with your tax money. In the form of food stamps, welfare money, etc.
Why do you want to subsidize Bezos workforce? He’s the richest man on the planet for crissakes.
Biden already has. br No new taxes if you make und... (show quote)


Are you not reading what I wrote or are you willfully being deceptive ? Now $ 400,000 is more than I must worry about, but YUSE GUYS targetted $ CABILLIONARIES like Bezos and Bill Gates. You know the guys whose tax information was illegally leaked.

Now not so cleverly you have shifted the field to those over $ 400,000 in income. Those are the entrepreneurs who are driving American prosperity.

Will you dare answer me or run away ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Jun 23, 2021 15:27:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
Are you not reading what I wrote or are you willfully being deceptive ? Now $ 400,000 is more than I must worry about, but YUSE GUYS targetted $ CABILLIONARIES like Bezos and Bill Gates. You know the guys whose tax information was illegally leaked.

Now not so cleverly you have shifted the field to those over $ 400,000 in income. Those are the entrepreneurs who are driving American prosperity.

Will you dare answer me or run away ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Are you not reading what I wrote or are you willfu... (show quote)


I am more than willing to answer you, but
What is the question?
I said there should be no such thing as billionaires.
It represents a major flaw in the system.
I am not against people being rich . But to be rich at the expense of everyone and everything else is wrong.
Warren Buffett just retired at 91.
After he gave his wealth away to Bill Gates, he recently just gave away 1/2 of his wealth.
This still leaves him with ......$100. Billion.
This example points at the flaws people like you want to embrace.
It’s wrong , today , tomorrow, and forever.
Poor warren. 91 and having 100Billion in bank. Will it be enough to buy back his soul ?
I wish him well. I’m glad he has done well.

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Jun 23, 2021 16:58:39   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
Are you not reading what I wrote or are you willfully being deceptive ? Now $ 400,000 is more than I must worry about, but YUSE GUYS targetted $ CABILLIONARIES like Bezos and Bill Gates. You know the guys whose tax information was illegally leaked.

Now not so cleverly you have shifted the field to those over $ 400,000 in income. Those are the entrepreneurs who are driving American prosperity.

Will you dare answer me or run away ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Are you not reading what I wrote or are you willfu... (show quote)


The taxes being discussed will be painless to the exorbitantly rich.
I say the treasury should buy back their excesses.

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Jun 23, 2021 17:26:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
Why are billionaires presumed innocent?
Why all of us ignorant Biblical scholars know that the answer is...human nature.
Poor people are poor because of sin.
Rich people are rich because they are good.


Tell me why did Jesus send the capitalists away from the temple ?
Being the biblioscholar .

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Jun 23, 2021 17:49:10   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The Majority has a very Large number of news and informative outlets.
The minority , not so many.
When should it stop , rose ?
As in the game monopoly, there is only one winner. My best guess is it won’t be you.
So, then what ?
Just shrug , and walk off, ho hum.
Or join the Democrats in their fight against these people and behaviors.


My dear little troll, do pay attention. I never said it was right or to shrug it off. However, Democrats have also allowed it
to continue yet here you are thinking they’ve changed. They haven’t. They are also owned by the rich.

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Jun 23, 2021 17:57:57   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I am more than willing to answer you, but
What is the question?
I said there should be no such thing as billionaires.
It represents a major flaw in the system.
I am not against people being rich . But to be rich at the expense of everyone and everything else is wrong.
Warren Buffett just retired at 91.
After he gave his wealth away to Bill Gates, he recently just gave away 1/2 of his wealth.
This still leaves him with ......$100. Billion.
This example points at the flaws people like you want to embrace.
It’s wrong , today , tomorrow, and forever.
Poor warren. 91 and having 100Billion in bank. Will it be enough to buy back his soul ?
I wish him well. I’m glad he has done well.
I am more than willing to answer you, but br What ... (show quote)


You previously said this, and THIS is a BIG freaking deal.

" Biden already has.
No new taxes if you make under $400,000. "

Why do do you guys keep shifting the freaking goal posts ????????????????????????????????????

News Fraking Flash. $ 400,000 and $ 1,000,000,000 are not, I repeat not, remotely close in terms of magnitude. $ 1,000,000,000 is 2,500 times the wealth of $ 400,000.

We have 2, maybe 3 different talking points here. You are so muddled in your thinking and in your guilt in thinking it that your arguments are all over the place.

You say " I am not against people being rich . " Uhhhhhhhhhhh yes you are. You use Bill Gates and Warren Buffet as your poster boys for evil wealth, but your real prey are those with incomes $ 400,000 to 1,000,000 per year.

" But to be rich at the expense of everyone and everything else is wrong. "

Did they steal their money from everyone else ? They must have, right ? Your theory is that there is only so much money and if Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have $ Billions, those are $ Billions that would be in ordinary peoples pockets if they did not have those $ Billions.

I say the opposite. I say those $ Billions that Buffet and Gates have wouldn't exist if they didn't own them.

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Jun 23, 2021 21:40:16   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
You previously said this, and THIS is a BIG freaking deal.

" Biden already has.
No new taxes if you make under $400,000. "

Why do do you guys keep shifting the freaking goal posts ????????????????????????????????????

News Fraking Flash. $ 400,000 and $ 1,000,000,000 are not, I repeat not, remotely close in terms of magnitude. $ 1,000,000,000 is 2,500 times the wealth of $ 400,000.

We have 2, maybe 3 different talking points here. You are so muddled in your thinking and in your guilt in thinking it that your arguments are all over the place.

You say " I am not against people being rich . " Uhhhhhhhhhhh yes you are. You use Bill Gates and Warren Buffet as your poster boys for evil wealth, but your real prey are those with incomes $ 400,000 to 1,000,000 per year.

" But to be rich at the expense of everyone and everything else is wrong. "

Did they steal their money from everyone else ? They must have, right ? Your theory is that there is only so much money and if Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have $ Billions, those are $ Billions that would be in ordinary peoples pockets if they did not have those $ Billions.

I say the opposite. I say those $ Billions that Buffet and Gates have wouldn't exist if they didn't own them.
You previously said this, and THIS is a BIG freak... (show quote)


What I’m saying is once you’re rich , that’s it you’re rich.
Piling more money on rich people does not benefit anyone, including the rich. After all they are already rich. The human possibilities do not expand being rich.
More wealth only creates more wealth .
And nothing else.
So, you have 45 houses, you can’t live in all of them.
What I’m saying is human capacity does not increase with more wealth.

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Jun 24, 2021 10:49:25   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What I’m saying is once you’re rich , that’s it you’re rich.
Piling more money on rich people does not benefit anyone, including the rich. After all they are already rich. The human possibilities do not expand being rich.
More wealth only creates more wealth .
And nothing else.
So, you have 45 houses, you can’t live in all of them.
What I’m saying is human capacity does not increase with more wealth.


Why do you keep ducking my question ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

First you named the evil $ Billionaires, then you dropped your punitive taxation down to $ 400,000 per year. That figure is rich to me, but not really in the big scheme of things. Those people earning $ 400,000 to several $ million per year are the ones driving prosperity in America and YOU wish to punish them for that.

You seem to be a full blown Marxist with zero understanding of economics. Venezuela and Russia and Cuba are run by people who think like you do. Perhaps you might study those countries and see what your beliefs have wrought ?

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Jun 27, 2021 09:15:41   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
Why do you keep ducking my question ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

First you named the evil $ Billionaires, then you dropped your punitive taxation down to $ 400,000 per year. That figure is rich to me, but not really in the big scheme of things. Those people earning $ 400,000 to several $ million per year are the ones driving prosperity in America and YOU wish to punish them for that.

You seem to be a full blown Marxist with zero understanding of economics. Venezuela and Russia and Cuba are run by people who think like you do. Perhaps you might study those countries and see what your beliefs have wrought ?
Why do you keep ducking my question ??????????????... (show quote)


Why are you not looking at countries where the wealth and the government are the same thing ? Ferdinand Marcos owned all the money in the Philippines. The people on the Philippines were reduced to eating bugs to stay alive.
Battista in in Cuba drove around in big black limos while the Cuban people were out foraging for bugs for food. Sicharno same.
On and on . The shah of Iran, when he took over Iran , the country was Nearly self sufficient . Importing very little. After the shah showed up , everything went to hell, no farms, no anything just a dependent population on wh**ever the shah was planning next. Do you believe it is a necessity of wealth that everyone else is starved to death ?
This country was founded in order to not be like that.
Yet, here you are trying to convince me, it’s their money and they earned it.
Proving your flawed thinking.

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Jun 27, 2021 09:23:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
Why do you keep ducking my question ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

First you named the evil $ Billionaires, then you dropped your punitive taxation down to $ 400,000 per year. That figure is rich to me, but not really in the big scheme of things. Those people earning $ 400,000 to several $ million per year are the ones driving prosperity in America and YOU wish to punish them for that.

You seem to be a full blown Marxist with zero understanding of economics. Venezuela and Russia and Cuba are run by people who think like you do. Perhaps you might study those countries and see what your beliefs have wrought ?
Why do you keep ducking my question ??????????????... (show quote)


If we were to outright take half of every billionaires wealth, do you think your taxes would go up or down ?
The billionaires would likely still be billionaires .
Can your thinking be that flawed ?
The bottom part of the population isn’t paying taxes, but, neither is the top portion.
It’s the working fools like you in the middle that pays everyone’s taxes.
If there isn’t an answer for you in there someplace , I don’t know what to say.
It’s all a game to the rich,
But,
For you it’s a life or death situation.

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Jun 27, 2021 09:34:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
You previously said this, and THIS is a BIG freaking deal.

" Biden already has.
No new taxes if you make under $400,000. "

Why do do you guys keep shifting the freaking goal posts ????????????????????????????????????

News Fraking Flash. $ 400,000 and $ 1,000,000,000 are not, I repeat not, remotely close in terms of magnitude. $ 1,000,000,000 is 2,500 times the wealth of $ 400,000.

We have 2, maybe 3 different talking points here. You are so muddled in your thinking and in your guilt in thinking it that your arguments are all over the place.

You say " I am not against people being rich . " Uhhhhhhhhhhh yes you are. You use Bill Gates and Warren Buffet as your poster boys for evil wealth, but your real prey are those with incomes $ 400,000 to 1,000,000 per year.

" But to be rich at the expense of everyone and everything else is wrong. "

Did they steal their money from everyone else ? They must have, right ? Your theory is that there is only so much money and if Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have $ Billions, those are $ Billions that would be in ordinary peoples pockets if they did not have those $ Billions.

I say the opposite. I say those $ Billions that Buffet and Gates have wouldn't exist if they didn't own them.
You previously said this, and THIS is a BIG freak... (show quote)


News flash;
They don’t own that money !
That money belongs to the treasury of the United States of America . It belongs to everyone who has paid taxes into it.
It is to be used for the operation of what makes this country great. It is there to be divided up among your rich people only.
When .02% of the population owns 84% of the wealth, you have a drastically lopsided
Distribution of wealth.
This was done, not solely, but by changing the the laws to funnel the direction of money flow to the Top.
A robbery of sorts. Vacuuming up every last penny into the garages if the rich.
The situation created now is that USF that money should somehow be reallocated they will will lose a portion of the billions gained.
But, they will still be billionaires.
So, billionaires , crying with cake in both hands.

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Jun 27, 2021 09:36:34   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
My dear little troll, do pay attention. I never said it was right or to shrug it off. However, Democrats have also allowed it
to continue yet here you are thinking they’ve changed. They haven’t. They are also owned by the rich.


So, still no options from the right on how to fix things, only more complaints about the left ?
You may like being owned by the rich.

I do Not !

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Jun 27, 2021 11:39:13   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
So, still no options from the right on how to fix things, only more complaints about the left ?
You may like being owned by the rich.

I do Not !


Pay attention for once. Both the right AND the left politicians are owned by the rich. Nothing ever changes despite all the yip yap. I never said I liked it.

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Jun 27, 2021 13:20:39   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
Pay attention for once. Both the right AND the left politicians are owned by the rich. Nothing ever changes despite all the yip yap. I never said I liked it.


The difference is, rose, the left is trying to share the wealth they have created.
The right believes it’s their money above all else.

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