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Jun 23, 2021 15:29:43   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Let's not overlook, Grain Shortages, 4 months ago California had a 5 year water supply but now the blue lead government regulated farmers water supply to 0 (Zero) leading to more food Shortages, pig/beef/chicken Shortages, cut off our oil supply and now we are going to see upwards to $7.00 a gallon (watch, it is going to happen), runaway inflation which is headed towards record breaking levels, which hurts who...the poor and lower middle class or what's left of the lower middle class.
The stock market is now behaving as it did pre-08/09 and with bubbles hundreds of times larger and we are still pumping Monopoly Money to prevent the greatest depression in world history but the current administration in driving America's economy off the cliff and no amount of the feds printing Monopoly Money will slow the fall.
Yep, the left is so proud with nearly a trillion dollars spent on i******s just since Biden has been in office.
Open the borders, crash the economy, then join the one world currency (digital), one world government and one world religion.
The lefts agenda is having a bang up success, thanks to dark forces leading them.
Something how God can use evil, to glorify him. Prophecy fulfilling in real-time, right before our eyes.
Let's not overlook, Grain Shortages, 4 months ag... (show quote)


You, Jack, are very well informed! What we are witnessing today is Obama's 3rd term. He's the man behind the curtain and Biden is just a front/facade. Obama is finishing what he started - the ruination of America on behalf of his c*******t friends. (Hillary and Obama studied under Saul Alinsky.)

http://www.kegley-inc.com/8-levels-control-useful-i***ts-saul-alinsky/

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1. Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.
1. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7. Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the government and schools.
8. Class Welfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more disconnect, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

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Jun 23, 2021 19:54:15   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
You, Jack, are very well informed! What we are witnessing today is Obama's 3rd term. He's the man behind the curtain and Biden is just a front/facade. Obama is finishing what he started - the ruination of America on behalf of his c*******t friends. (Hillary and Obama studied under Saul Alinsky.)

http://www.kegley-inc.com/8-levels-control-useful-i***ts-saul-alinsky/

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1. Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.
1. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7. Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the government and schools.
8. Class Welfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more disconnect, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
You, Jack, are very well informed! What we are wit... (show quote)



Your list is on point,

C***d and cryptocurrency is a gift of control for the left. There is a cryptocurrency attached to a system that the Chinese have (social score) and if anyone does not go along with the program, there cryptocurrency will be shut off.
Don't turn in your guns- Off switch
Don't get v******ted- Off switch
Speak against the left on social media (like we are on this forum- Off switch

I take no pleasure in informing conservatives, you will never be in power again. Conservatives need to use critical thinking sk**ls and connect the dots of what happened (the last generation), what's happening (the last decade to current), where are we heading ( They are telling the population, their evil plans and how they are going to be successful) and then that little inconvenient t***h, Bible prophecy is happening before our eyes.
Connect the past, present and future with prophecy and the path ends badly for Americans.
Best to prepare as best for what's coming and look up to the Lord. Do our best to occupy as things become more and more evil, share the gospel until the day our Lord takes us up.

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Jun 23, 2021 23:38:03   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Your list is on point,

C***d and cryptocurrency is a gift of control for the left. There is a cryptocurrency attached to a system that the Chinese have (social score) and if anyone does not go along with the program, there cryptocurrency will be shut off.
Don't turn in your guns- Off switch
Don't get v******ted- Off switch
Speak against the left on social media (like we are on this forum- Off switch

I take no pleasure in informing conservatives, you will never be in power again. Conservatives need to use critical thinking sk**ls and connect the dots of what happened (the last generation), what's happening (the last decade to current), where are we heading ( They are telling the population, their evil plans and how they are going to be successful) and then that little inconvenient t***h, Bible prophecy is happening before our eyes.
Connect the past, present and future with prophecy and the path ends badly for Americans.
Best to prepare as best for what's coming and look up to the Lord. Do our best to occupy as things become more and more evil, share the gospel until the day our Lord takes us up.
Your list is on point, br br C***d and cryptocu... (show quote)


"the day our Lord takes us up." I hope you're not referring to the rapture - because that's another Jew lie. It came from the Scofield bible and it's the handiwork of the devil. "Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoron. Judaism comes from Satan.

I'm too old to worry about death and dying, but my heart goes out to the little ones who only want to be loved and protected and, instead, are being used, abused, tortured, and murdered. They are the people for whom I shed tears. This is not a good time to be having babies.

Biden is just a front for Obama - essentially it's Obama's 3rd term. Obama called for the Navy to nuke South Carolina (I don't know who he was going to blame for that.) The Navy sent the missile to the bottom of the ocean and, consequently, Obama fired a lot of the top brass. Now he has his minions in the Pentagon, I believe he will try it again.

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Jun 24, 2021 11:02:30   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
"the day our Lord takes us up." I hope you're not referring to the rapture - because that's another Jew lie. It came from the Scofield bible and it's the handiwork of the devil. "Judeo-Christian" is an oxymoron. Judaism comes from Satan.

I'm too old to worry about death and dying, but my heart goes out to the little ones who only want to be loved and protected and, instead, are being used, abused, tortured, and murdered. They are the people for whom I shed tears. This is not a good time to be having babies.

Biden is just a front for Obama - essentially it's Obama's 3rd term. Obama called for the Navy to nuke South Carolina (I don't know who he was going to blame for that.) The Navy sent the missile to the bottom of the ocean and, consequently, Obama fired a lot of the top brass. Now he has his minions in the Pentagon, I believe he will try it again.
"the day our Lord takes us up." I hope y... (show quote)


No fear in dying, maybe getting seriously injured and not dying..lol
I'm in agreement that Obama is playing leader behind the scenes and believe he has been behind many red f**g events.
Firing the top brass that would not follow him in lockstep was a major hit to our military genius.
We share the same concerns for those having babies, "whoa to those who give suckle " isn't that far away. The struggles are something I would rather move my thoughts to something else it is so bothersome.

Rapture...doesn't matter if scriptural... OK that's bold but allow me to explain.
There are many saved Christians and with many doctrines are taught something that may make sense but is not scriptural.
The one thing that has to be right is salvation, worshiping the true God of creation, who is Jesus the Christ, was he sinless, did he rise on the 3rd day, do good works lead to Salvation...
Jesus, God in the flesh, sinless paid the price for our sins, died and on the 3rd day rose again and throughout scripture we are justified through faith, believing we are sinners in need of salvation by grace and not of works...(in a nutshell) My point is the Gospel of salvation is non negotiatable. With that said, Christians believe many things incorrectly but are still saved.
I have debated saved Christians that believe the time of Jacob's Troubles (The Great Tribulation) has already happened and some even become mean spirited.
Having studied the cults many decades ago (Mormon, Jehovah Witness's and many others) Christians believing the "Minor " doctrines inaccurate is not the same as false doctrines of the cults that twist salvation, the identity of God and apply works in order to have salvation (The doctrines of devils).
As for the Rapture, I do know God does not subject his Children to his wrath, which is very different than "Judgement " . Enoch was raptured. I'm not challenging a debate with you, I do believe we are at the end of the end of the Church age and God will Preserve his Church from the Tribulation, a time of his "Wrath " upon the world.

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Jun 24, 2021 14:04:55   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
No fear in dying, maybe getting seriously injured and not dying..lol
I'm in agreement that Obama is playing leader behind the scenes and believe he has been behind many red f**g events.
Firing the top brass that would not follow him in lockstep was a major hit to our military genius.
We share the same concerns for those having babies, "whoa to those who give suckle " isn't that far away. The struggles are something I would rather move my thoughts to something else it is so bothersome.

Rapture...doesn't matter if scriptural... OK that's bold but allow me to explain.
There are many saved Christians and with many doctrines are taught something that may make sense but is not scriptural.
The one thing that has to be right is salvation, worshiping the true God of creation, who is Jesus the Christ, was he sinless, did he rise on the 3rd day, do good works lead to Salvation...
Jesus, God in the flesh, sinless paid the price for our sins, died and on the 3rd day rose again and throughout scripture we are justified through faith, believing we are sinners in need of salvation by grace and not of works...(in a nutshell) My point is the Gospel of salvation is non negotiatable. With that said, Christians believe many things incorrectly but are still saved.
I have debated saved Christians that believe the time of Jacob's Troubles (The Great Tribulation) has already happened and some even become mean spirited.
Having studied the cults many decades ago (Mormon, Jehovah Witness's and many others) Christians believing the "Minor " doctrines inaccurate is not the same as false doctrines of the cults that twist salvation, the identity of God and apply works in order to have salvation (The doctrines of devils).
As for the Rapture, I do know God does not subject his Children to his wrath, which is very different than "Judgement " . Enoch was raptured. I'm not challenging a debate with you, I do believe we are at the end of the end of the Church age and God will Preserve his Church from the Tribulation, a time of his "Wrath " upon the world.
No fear in dying, maybe getting seriously injured ... (show quote)


First of all, Exodus 20:3 Thou shall have no other Gods before me. 4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that h**e me;

Revelation 6:
3. When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see."
4. Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should k**l one another and there was given to him a great sword. (Matt. 24:6,7)

Revelation 7:
2. Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,
3. saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."
4. And I heard the number of those, who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:
(verses 5, 6, 7, and 8 describes the children of Israel as twelve thousand from each tribe: Judah, Reuben, Gad, Asher, Naphtall, Manasseh, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin.)
9. After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all the nations (aka gentiles), tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne...

Matt. 24
9. "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and k**l you, and you will be h**ed by all nations for My name's sake."

I Thessalonians 2:14-16
". . . of the Jews: Who both k**led the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sin alway: For the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."

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Jun 24, 2021 18:22:28   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
First of all, Exodus 20:3 Thou shall have no other Gods before me. 4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that h**e me;

Revelation 6:
3. When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see."
4. Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should k**l one another and there was given to him a great sword. (Matt. 24:6,7)

Revelation 7:
2. Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea,
3. saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."
4. And I heard the number of those, who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:
(verses 5, 6, 7, and 8 describes the children of Israel as twelve thousand from each tribe: Judah, Reuben, Gad, Asher, Naphtall, Manasseh, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin.)
9. After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all the nations (aka gentiles), tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne...

Matt. 24
9. "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and k**l you, and you will be h**ed by all nations for My name's sake."

I Thessalonians 2:14-16
". . . of the Jews: Who both k**led the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sin alway: For the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."
First of all, Exodus 20:3 Thou shall have no other... (show quote)



I apologize, I'm not connecting your reply.

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Jun 24, 2021 21:00:41   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
I apologize, I'm not connecting your reply.


You said:"Rapture...doesn't matter if scriptural... OK that's bold but allow me to explain.
There are many saved Christians and with many doctrines are taught something that may make sense but is not scriptural.


"Rapture" is not scriptural. How can anyone be saved if their doctrine is false? The ONLY way to be saved is via Christ Jesus. Other doctrines do not have the benefit of salvation.

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Jun 25, 2021 02:19:26   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
You said:"Rapture...doesn't matter if scriptural... OK that's bold but allow me to explain.
There are many saved Christians and with many doctrines are taught something that may make sense but is not scriptural.


"Rapture" is not scriptural. How can anyone be saved if their doctrine is false? The ONLY way to be saved is via Christ Jesus. Other doctrines do not have the benefit of salvation.


I was clear that the doctrine of salvation is non negotiatable. If someone does or does not believe in the Rapture has nothing to do with salvation.

The Bible is clear we will go through tribulation, which is not God's wrath like THE GREAT TRIBULATION.
God removed lot and spared him from his "Wrath " when his wrath went out on Sodom and Gomorrah.
As I said I really don't want to debate this with you, for two reasons.
One, I adore you and your post
Two, I don't have the time (Building a house and need to get in before Northern Idaho winter)
There are many Greek manuscripts having nothing to do with Scofield.
But as I said, believing in the Rapture or not believing is not a deal breaker if one is "Truly saved"

I know saved Baptist, Pentecostal's, Calvary Chapel, and others with different "MINOR "doctrines " but saved all the same (Not saying all are saved) .
Christians have made Democrats out to be the enemy (Granted the leaders and many followers are Demonicaly lead, just as many churches are)... if we make them the enemy, then how can we share the Gospel unto salvation?
If Christians (Saved) fight over minor doctrines, (Without the love of Christ) then how can we be one body. We are one body (Saved,) causing division among the body if we don't speak with love.
Please note, I'm not accusing you of not having or speaking in Love. Just trying to convey that doctrines among the saved when differences arise need to be argued in the Love of Christ and I say this only from personal experience having Christians firm in the doctrine of salvation attack other Christians firm in the doctrine of salvation.
I look forward to picking this up with you in a few months and with my greatest respect for you.
Jack
In his Service

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