Thoughts - A decent argument
Jun 20, 2021 11:50:19 #
Jun 20, 2021 16:00:27 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Look forward to the responses 
Depends on how one defines 'evil'.
And whether free will is really a real thing.
Jun 20, 2021 16:26:38 #
lpnmajor
Loc: Arkansas
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Look forward to the responses
God did create a world without evil........................... then he gave humans fee will....................... and it all went to hell.
Jun 20, 2021 16:57:28 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Look forward to the responses
In Genesis 3..breaking in at verse 3 But of the tree in the midst of the garden, God said, you shall not eat of it, and you shall not touch it, lest you die.
4. And the serpent said to the woman, you shall surely not die.
5. For God knows that when you eat thereof, your eyes will be opened and you will be like Angels knowing both good and evil.
And we know that Eve and Adams eyes were opened...knew they were naked and so on.
Humans all of the sudden knew the difference between good and evil and were then given the freedom to choose.
Apparently evil is part of our curriculum of character building.
Because God says that he sets before us good and evil and to choose good to live a blessed life.
And just like in the garden, the Adversary who is at God's service is at constant work to tempt us.
Building character wouldn't have room for improvement, if there were only good.
My reasoning anyways.
Jun 21, 2021 17:12:30 #
Jun 21, 2021 18:45:01 #
Jun 21, 2021 19:39:35 #
lpnmajor wrote:
God did create a world without evil........................... then he gave humans fee will....................... and it all went to hell.
🎯
Jun 21, 2021 20:42:24 #
Jun 21, 2021 22:18:49 #
Rose42 wrote:
You believe Satan serves God? 
Not willingly. 👿
But Satan cannot help but serve the Lord. All things serve the Lord. Psalm 119.
God created the angels out of love and they love Him and serve Him joyfully.
So did Lucifer, until he deigned to be superior to the rest. And thus began the slide down the slippery slope.
But God writes straight with crooked lines. It's too late for us to live in eternal child-like innocence. We blew it. But as Christ has overcome the world, we have another chance. But now we are changed, we understand evil. And choose good. The innocent child is growing up.
And it was the works of the evil one that set in motion not only our fall, but also the need for our salvation.
So it's like the physics of action/reaction. Lucifer rebelled, Satan now pays the price. The despised cross wielded by Satan has become the Lord's weapon of victory.
We are the Church Militant, and the gates of hell will not prevail against us!
💒📜📖 ✝️
Jun 21, 2021 22:52:26 #
Singularity wrote:
Depends on how one defines 'evil'.
And whether free will is really a real thing.
And whether free will is really a real thing.
😏 Singularity, you are naughty but not evil.
Free Will is Real, but very fleeting. 💟
Jun 21, 2021 22:56:00 #
[Control Valve] and a [leak] in the Epicurean Flow Chart:
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
Jun 21, 2021 23:57:28 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
[Control Valve] and a [leak] in the Epicurean Flow Chart:
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
Indeed!
Jun 22, 2021 10:26:31 #
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
😏 Singularity, you are naughty but not evil.
Free Will is Real, but very fleeting. 💟
Free Will is Real, but very fleeting. 💟
Naughty or evil, your God and compatriots decree/agree that eternal Hellfire is my rightful eternal reward for not believing "in" the God.
Because the God says so.
Jun 22, 2021 10:39:36 #
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
[Control Valve] and a [leak] in the Epicurean Flow Chart:
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
[..then God is not all powerful..]
Maybe this is true! Because God cannot force love...if He did it wouldn't really be authentic love...
[..if God knows the outcome of the test there is no need for the test..]
by the testing we gain merit and strength...we need testing, God doesn't.
Is a thing lovely because we love it or do we love it because it is lovely.
Jun 22, 2021 11:15:26 #
Singularity wrote:
Naughty or evil, your God and compatriots decree/agree that eternal Hellfire is my rightful eternal reward for not believing "in" the God.
Because the God says so.
Because the God says so.
God loves you as do many others. And you don't believe in demons and hell so you are not choosing to go there. Therefore you won't.
Hope to meet you on the other side! But not for a long time! 😌
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