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Jun 15, 2021 08:43:26   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Pete, you know that you would not accept proof if it were given. Sometimes people cannot see the forest because the trees are in the way. Here is a verse which might help you see past the trees:

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

I didn't see your post until until after I posted mine. Great minds think alike.

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Jun 15, 2021 08:51:11   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Parky60 wrote:
I didn't see your post until until after I posted mine. Great minds think alike.



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Jun 15, 2021 09:25:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Petey, you must lead a miserable life. I hope you don’t have any children to indoctrinate with your hatred. Maybe you should seek help. If Obama/Biden/Harris does not please you I don’t know what possibly could.

They are destroying this country every minute they are in office. You might consider how you will survive when food is scarce, fuel non-existent, electricity sporadic, water limited & expensive, crime rampant, only criminals having guns, law enforcement non-existent.


Ha ha ha... I was going to reply but Kevyn posted a better one.. read and cringe, pins you to the wall..



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Jun 15, 2021 09:29:57   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
PeterS wrote:
Simple isn't it!


God's T***h is written in our hearts, but for some the T***h cannot be known until the heart is broken.

Peter, is love the default state of your heart? Do you smile at strangers? Do you stop sometimes and just look around at the beauty of creation? With child-like wonder? With hardly a thought? Without reason or judgement, without condemnation, without fear?

When you do at least these things you are walking in the Kingdom of God. And atheism not withstanding, God walks with you and Loves you.

Peace be with you my friend.

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Jun 15, 2021 09:34:42   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
PeterS wrote:
Simple isn't it!


If God does not exist why are people who believe in Him, Trust Him, and Worship Him, most generally Happy, Smiling, and so filled with the Pleasures of Life? Those who do not believe in Him generally look and act like someone who has just bitten into a green persimmon.
Here is a Reader's Digest article from December 1946 issue, 'Seven Reasons Why A Scientist Believes In God'. The article is taken from the book "Man Does Not Stand Alone", by A. Cressy Morrison.
As I have said and believe, All nations in the past have fallen when they rejected the God or Gods of that Nation. We are being led there by such as the question you have presented.

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Jun 15, 2021 10:00:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Kevina, take your hormones. Trump has nothing to do with this. It is a matter of economics 101 & civics 101. Trump was not financially conservative. I did not agree with him keeping Wray, any of the other Obama slime balls in any of the alphabet soup agencies. Every single one of these agencies should have been cut by 30% across the board at every level. Biden wants to hire 80,000 new IRS agents, after Obama hiring 40,000. 80,000 more agents are not going to produce their payroll.

Rich people are not stupid, nor are corporations. Both can afford the best lawyers, accountants, & can always raise prices or move their money.

I am a Constitutional Conservative. The farther we have gotten away from that document, the more the country has suffered.

I have seen some articles saying Biden is an FDR. FDR was the absolute worst thing to ever happen to this country in the long term before Obama. Obama is pulling all Biden’s strings and all he is doing is picking up where FDR left off.

If 80,000,000 people v**ed for Biden, Xi & Putin know they have the winning hands and by the time Austin destroys the military, they won’t even have a skirmish to deal with.

Anyone who believes European countries or Britain will support the US is on drugs. Any of the world leaders committing to follow Biden would get kicked out of office.
Kevina, take your hormones. Trump has nothing to ... (show quote)


DA,,, your comments about the IRS could not be more wrong.. the republicans have gutted the IRS, little by little now they can not function as is needed..

Defunding the IRS is a goal of the very rich, sorta rich and the republicans and dems who they have bought on the open market.. it serves no good at all for the working people of this nation.

Just a sample..

Corporations and the wealthy are the biggest beneficiaries of the IRS’ decay. Most Americans’ interaction with the IRS is largely automated. But it takes specialized, well-trained personnel to audit a business or a billionaire or to unravel a tax scheme — and those employees are leaving in droves and taking their expertise with them. For the country’s largest corporations, the danger of being hit with a billion-dollar tax bill has greatly diminished. For the rich, who research shows evade taxes the most, the IRS has become less and less of a force to be feared.

The story has been different for poor taxpayers. The IRS oversees one of the government’s largest anti-poverty programs, the earned income tax credit, which provides cash to the working poor. Under continued pressure from Republicans, the IRS has long made a priority of auditing people who receive that money, and as the IRS has shrunk, those audits have consumed even more resources, accounting for 36 percent of audits last year. The credit’s recipients — whose annual income is typically less than $20,000 — are now examined at rates similar to those who make $500,000 to $1 million a year.

a few weeks before Christmas in 2014, after four years of consistent cuts, Congress slashed an additional $350 million from the agency’s budget. Because the cut came three months into the fiscal year, and only a few months before filing season began, it sent the agency scrambling. Desperate, Koskinen even considered briefly shutting down the IRS.

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Jun 15, 2021 10:06:33   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
permafrost wrote:
Ha ha ha... I was going to reply but Kevyn posted a better one.. read and cringe, pins you to the wall..


If your proposed post was worse than Kev's, I would say maybe you're wise just to skip it.

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Jun 15, 2021 10:22:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
If your proposed post was worse than Kev's, I would say maybe you're wise just to skip it.


I did not say it was worse.. but what Kevyn posted was succinct and clear and on the money.. I tend to rant at times and not be as clear as I should be..



Have a good day Bernie.. we are supposed to enjoy these every chance we get..



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Jun 15, 2021 10:37:31   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Simple isn't it!



Prove he doesn't. ..... you cant.

Thats just stupid, get a life

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Jun 15, 2021 12:08:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Prove he doesn't!


Actually, the onus is on us to prove that He does...

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Jun 15, 2021 12:10:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
Peter,
All you need to do is just contemplate for a moment all that is around you. If you believe that all of this is simply random actions and not intelligent design, there is nothing further that I can say to you.



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Jun 15, 2021 12:12:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
God's T***h is written in our hearts, but for some the T***h cannot be known until the heart is broken.

Peter, is love the default state of your heart? Do you smile at strangers? Do you stop sometimes and just look around at the beauty of creation? With child-like wonder? With hardly a thought? Without reason or judgement, without condemnation, without fear?

When you do at least these things you are walking in the Kingdom of God. And atheism not withstanding, God walks with you and Loves you.

Peace be with you my friend.
God's T***h is written in our hearts, but for some... (show quote)


Well said

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Jun 15, 2021 14:57:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Actually, the onus is on us to prove that He does...
No, it is not.

If I accuse you of wrong doing, or if I imply or allege your beliefs are false, the burden of proof is on me. Based on a a sound and solid epistemological framework, I must show your beliefs are false.

The accused is not obligated to prove his beliefs are true.

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Jun 15, 2021 15:03:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Simple isn't it!
No, it isn't simple. If that is supposed to be a question, you are implying that God does not exist, and in order to satisfy your demand for proof, you seek empirical evidence, something material, tangible, physical, visual.

When someone asks for conclusive proofs, that person immediately demonstrates little or no philosophical education in methods of how to establish a sound and solid epistemological framework to investigate origins. Usually, this challenge goes hand in hand with the claim that " There is no evidence of God's existence ". What they want to say however is, that there is no empirical proof.

When an unbeliever in God makes the claim that there is no proof of Gods existence, he also immediately and implicitly admits there is no proof that the natural world is all there is. Otherwise, he would say: We know the natural world is all there is. Here is the proof. For that, however, he would have to be all-knowing. Which he is not. He chooses the "No-God hypothesis" based on no reason at all.

What proof and evidence do you have that atheism is accurate and correct?

Atheists often claim that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", yet they have no proof or evidence that the extraordinary claim of non-life becoming the first life solely through natural processes is true.

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Jun 15, 2021 16:47:32   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
God's T***h is written in our hearts, but for some the T***h cannot be known until the heart is broken.

Peter, is love the default state of your heart? Do you smile at strangers? Do you stop sometimes and just look around at the beauty of creation? With child-like wonder? With hardly a thought? Without reason or judgement, without condemnation, without fear?

When you do at least these things you are walking in the Kingdom of God. And atheism not withstanding, God walks with you and Loves you.

Peace be with you my friend.
God's T***h is written in our hearts, but for some... (show quote)


Or the feeling of a light rain shower slipping over you while walking barefoot .. Seeing that small puddle forming and remembering its coolness against your foot, you step in, see the rippling effect and almost magically you are but a child filled with the heart of that child you will always be.... Graced by God’s love~~~

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