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Jun 12, 2021 23:07:50   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
2bltap wrote:
I have yet to here a logical response from our Progressive members here on OPP why is it that they have h**ed on the man so much. Every single policy he created has always been America first. When he spoke at the UN he firmly stated that he would and expected all of the other countries leadership to do likewise. Again what was wrong about that?
Mike

https://youtu.be/8KSs_5GLbeU


Rubes united.

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Jun 13, 2021 00:03:48   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
What damage? In five months everything is worse under Biden.


It can't explain.

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Jun 13, 2021 00:45:13   #
kemmer
 
Gman65 wrote:
It is undeniable that Donald Trump did more positive progress in his 4 years , than any other president ,

Oh it's plenty deniable, alright. In spades.

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Jun 13, 2021 01:04:23   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
2bltap wrote:
I have yet to here a logical response from our Progressive members here on OPP why is it that they have h**ed on the man so much. Every single policy he created has always been America first. When he spoke at the UN he firmly stated that he would and expected all of the other countries leadership to do likewise. Again what was wrong about that?
Mike

https://youtu.be/8KSs_5GLbeU


He was right about being independent of outside oil. Went grocery shopping and noticed everything $50 to $1 more expensive and was going to buy gas where I usually do and the price was $4.85 gal. Biden in office and inflation has hit like a Class 5 Hurricane... and it only going to get worse with the Democrats in control of the House, Senate, and Oval Office. You can't spend Trillions of Dollars and expect the rich to pay for it when they just increase prices (Inflation) to pay for it.

Open the borders, defund the police, shower money on groups like B*M and teach our children that White Privilege is the Root Cause of all our problems,. In fact, the Founding Fathers were all Rich, White Men owning S***es.

Biden's 5 months in and insanity (what Constitutional Rights?) has take control of our Country

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Jun 13, 2021 06:52:07   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump has twisted your perceptions to such an extent that your Trump tribe mentality sees ANY opposition as nothing short of c*******t. It’s going to take a long time to undo the damage Trump has left in his wake.



You and your fellow progressives have been chipping away at freedom since this country began.

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Jun 13, 2021 08:37:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Gman65 wrote:
Trump showed America the fat in the white house that has been sucking off everyone tax paying citizen. He was not a politician , but went in and started putting his common sense plan together , & that is why the career politicians did not have his support. The party was over for them at the time , and they had never seen anything like this before. It is undeniable that Donald Trump did more positive progress in his 4 years , than any other president , & the American people have experienced the leadership of a leader that was willing to work FOR the people , not attach themselves like blood suckers and drain the taxpayer's dry for their own personal Gain. Why ANYONE would not welcome this kind of change for the better , but instead dispute the undeniable positive progress he accomplished for ALL of us, not just for the Republican party , just goes to prove , that it doesn't matter what progress is accomplished that would benefit everyone in America , if it's not the democratic party's agenda or idea , they will tear & shred it apart , just out of spite. It's shameful. These people all need to be removed and replaced for the better of our country , before we no longer have a country.
Trump showed America the fat in the white house th... (show quote)


How do they ever get like this?

Donald Never worked for anyone but Donald. He never did anything to benefit you, whatsoever.
The rest is all fluff, powder , smoke and mirrors.
Donald said ok let the sludge and toxic waste flow into gmans yard. Let it flow in the lakes and rivers, no more regulations on coal companies , go ahead drill in our pristine forest and National Parks and monuments, drill for oil anywhere you want.
Oh, a leader. What a fffing leader.
It’s sad there will always be these unfortunates that will never know the t***h.
Without Democracy, this country would’ve been gone a long time ago.
Republic without democracy are only F*****tic Dictatorships. With authoritarian strongmen running the show.
Take a look at your Happy republics here today erdogan,bolsonaro, duterte, everyone that lives under their rule h**es them. I don’t see a country like that flourishing. Other countries won’t do business with them.
We have the sweet gullible ewes leading the way . To apparently what will be their own demise.
Was there music playing the background ?

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Jun 13, 2021 08:46:16   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
You and your fellow progressives have been chipping away at freedom since this country began.


How can you as a libertarian point your hinky little finger at anyone? Libertarians are in favor of nothing.Abolish everything. This is what the libertarian party has been doing. Since 1980.
Reaganomics follow David Koch’s 1980 libertarian platform when he ran for Vice President of the Libertarian Party.
Koch lost, but, his platform was handed to Reagan along with a heaping pile of money to git er done.
So, here You are today complaining about the Dems ruining the country , when, it’s been the libertarians the whole time. 45 years worth of libertarianism. Abolishing everything. Why can’t you take responsibility for it ?

Here is Your Plot to Destroy America:

David Koch’s 1980 Insane Libertarian Platform
Post author:Erich Vieth
Post published:April 11, 2014

When he ran for VP of the United States, David Koch wanted to outlaw mandatory seatbelts, and a whole lot more insanity. This is free market fundamentalism at its absolute destructive worst.

Here are some more positions he took (this list is from the Office of Bernie Sanders):

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:
“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal E******n Commission.”

“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”

“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance a******n services.”

“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”

“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”

“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”

“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”

“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”

“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”

“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”

“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”

“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”

“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”

“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”

“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”

“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with t***sportation, including the Department of T***sportation.”

“We demand the return of America’s railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”

“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called “self-protection” equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”

“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”

“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”

“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”

“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”

“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”

“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”

“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”

“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

** THESE are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform***

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Jun 13, 2021 09:01:56   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You will never get one of the OPP liberals to admit it. It would take something they do not have.


How would you know, you never answer my questions?

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Jun 13, 2021 09:05:18   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
archie bunker wrote:
It can't explain.


I’m sure of that.
how about you won’t cure 40 years of reaganomics in 100+ days.
Or tell us how you would git er done.

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Jun 13, 2021 10:03:41   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
What damage? In five months everything is worse under Biden.


In 5 months I’d say we haven’t gotten the stink of trump completely out of things.
He and McConnell did nothing for you.

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Jun 13, 2021 10:07:48   #
wilpharm
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Billy Barr didn’t have much of a shining reputation.
He was the guy who told Bush41 to pardon everyone involved with the arms to Iran for arms to Nicaragua . The one Ollie north walked away from scot free.
That was billy.,


do you have a shining reputation?? very doubtful

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Jun 13, 2021 10:08:20   #
wilpharm
 
Milosia2 wrote:
In 5 months I’d say we haven’t gotten the stink of trump completely out of things.
He and McConnell did nothing for you.


what did obummer do for you black folks?????

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Jun 13, 2021 12:02:53   #
Gatsby
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I do not support Marxism. I don’t know how to support Marxism. I don’t know any Marxists, the only people I hear saying the word Marxists are the trumpists.’
Where are the Marxist headquarters ? What do they want, and why do you think I’m one of them.
Is this part of your boogieman agenda ?


Surely you jest! Your support for A****a and B*M has been unwavering: Or are you just their unwilling dupe?

An armed group of protesters carrying A****a and Black L***s M****r gear denied supporting President-Elect Joe Biden. Instead, the Lansing, Michigan, protesters said they support Karl Marx.

https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/12/23/watch-we-support-karl-marx-not-biden-say-armed-michigan-protesters/

Black L***s M****r co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/b*m-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

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Jun 13, 2021 16:14:38   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump has twisted your perceptions to such an extent that your Trump tribe mentality sees ANY opposition as nothing short of c*******t. It’s going to take a long time to undo the damage Trump has left in his wake.


Generalities, generalities, generalities. I can point to specific Obama and Biden policies to illustrate their damage to America. Now give us specific Trump policies that you object to and what the negative consequences were for you and America. If you know what you are talking about, it's a piece of cake.

Or as I used to say a lot to Liberals on OPP, put up or shut up. I don't know why I got away from that.

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Jun 13, 2021 16:55:05   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
Generalities, generalities, generalities. I can point to specific Obama and Biden policies to illustrate their damage to America. Now give us specific Trump policies that you object to and what the negative consequences were for you and America. If you know what you are talking about, it's a piece of cake.

Or as I used to say a lot to Liberals on OPP, put up or shut up. I don't know why I got away from that.

Trump practically gutted the EPA in his “c*****e c****e is a h**x” campaign to get support from big oil; he trashed allies we’ve depended on for 75 years, so that nobody really trusted the US; Trump put his mega donor De Joy in charge of the Post Office to wreck mail v****g; he had Barr make the independent DOJ just another office of the WH; etc., etc.

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