woodguru

The right tries to reverse everything that they don't understand or agree with...the new Cancel Culture or B******i is this Critical Race Theory, try to talk about history as applies to extreme acts of r****m and it gets tuned out and rejected as CRT.

R****ts, those on the right who are do not want to hear anything about how b****s were abused throughout the history of the country, and how regions supported discrimination in obvious ways...they don't want to hear it.

Those who are not r****t, who want to hear history and examples of extreme r****m in local or state governments, have this CRT thing thrown at them like it's a bad thing to want to know the history of this country as applies to r****m. To the right they try to turn anything said as the example that the person wanting to talk about r****m is a r****t.

Wanting to teach history in school, and covering bad parts of r****t acts by communities that were as r****t as it gets is part of the history of this country, whether it makes people look bad or not. The problem is that r****ts, or those who know or have seriously r****t people in their families, don't want themselves or their friends and loved ones put in a bad light.

Critical Race Theory seems to be becoming the catch all phrase for the right that is being used for anything that points out any part of s******c r****m as a social problem.

I'd be curious to know what people think it is, and whether they can understand what it actually is and what is being attributed to CRT that is actually not that at all.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

No, they don't, but the left is trying to force-feed it to everyone. It's just another lie from the always lying MSM and dipsticks. You'll never be a Mensa candidate or qualify for MIT. Have some more kool-aid.

vernon

All this s***ery crap is nothing but the demoRATS trying to divide our people so they can gain more power. Do you think that creating more h**e is a way to go.
The only people that are r****t now are the ones in it for the money the sharptons and b*m and assorted c*******t.
My great grand paw was a s***e holder but lost almost every thing after the war. Of 2500hectors he had about 300 left. But all the generations since have worked their ass off to get it back,and its almost done. Now all we have to worry about some c*******t prick doing away with private property rights. I don't have any shame or h**e towards my ancestors ,they were men of their times.

3507

You say, "I'd be curious to know what people think it is, and whether they can understand what it actually is and what is being attributed to CRT that is actually not that at all."

I found an article which I think you will find relevant. (I'm including a link to it, below.) The article shows a mathematics program proposal being attributed to Critical Race Theory. The article is an example of how a legitimate endeavor is being sensationalized and misportrayed and attributed to Critical Race Theory.

The example is all contained within the article. The legitimate endeavor (as I see it) is described within the article as:

'“One of the big issues addressed in the new framework is the way students are systematically excluded from higher-level content through tracking,” ... “Such methods may have made sense in the era of fixed brain thinking, but we now know that our brains are growing and changing all the time. In the new framework, we are working to address the tracking problem, sharing other approaches, including examples of schools and districts that are working to keep access to higher-level mathematics open to all students as long as possible.”'

The article gives a misleading impression though, because of its headline "Is mathematics r****t? California could blaze pathway with woke math" and because of this other line near the beginning of the article:

"Proponents of new math say the way the subject currently is taught is suffused with W***e s*******y. They say it handicaps some minority students by insisting on what they consider r****t concepts — such as arriving at correct answers."

which would be foolishness (and is very likely just outright false, particularly as seen further down in the article at and near the other part I've quoted).

Most people won't read and understand the whole article; they will only notice the sensational misleading parts near the beginning of the article.

To me, the first part of the article seems a textbook example of misinterpretation. Fortunately the article does ALSO include the reality in a different part of the same article. So this time it's not so very difficult to decipher what's going on; but unfortunately most people won't get that far into it, and they will disseminate the misleading ideas far and wide, even without proper attribution, thereby misleading whole swaths of the population and mystifying those who want to get to the bottom of it.

Here is the article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/6/is-mathematics-r****t-california-could-blaze-pathw/?fbclid=IwAR2v76qzM8utjsSto_JENAtIE3aq1vmDnoTuUCMbHX8HpJn2hW5lWVQGULE .

As for precisely what "Critical Race Theory" really is, or "Cancel Culture", or even all the fine points about R****m, I haven't bothered to wade through all the fads and try to understand each one. I know that r****m is an important and deplorable part of our country's history and that it continues to affect many people today, and that it is still a serious matter. I try to do the right things and not offend people and not be "r****t"; but I'm not going to try to apologize for other people's stereotypes and misconceptions about me (I'm white, male, old, and middle-class U.S.-American) and I'm not going to fall all over myself trying to apologize for every little slip I make or every little misconception I've got. I'll just try to be respectful of everybody (except when they're just being really insulting or dangerous). I _am_ in favor of acknowledgement of real history, and I'd probably be in favor of r********ns; and if national apologies are involved in that, that's fine with me.

Kevyn

Is is taking a simple marketing strategy employed by Madison Avenue for years. They group test a word or phrase and see how simpletons respond to it. Be it MAGA, cancel culture, CRT, wh**ever. Then they repeat it on social media with a huge doom and gloom threat to it. So learning about our nations past mistakes and their lasting impact on minorities and listening to those effected becomes, “indoctrination of white children to h**e themselves” or other similar rubbish. Reform in insurance regulations are called c*******m. Common sense environmental policy is going to k**l the economy and make us a third world nation. All of these ridiculous right wing talking points are nothing but nonsense propaganda designed to divide people and get the ignorant ones to act against their own self interest.

WEBCO

Stop lying...CRT isn't history, it's a Marxist propaganda ploy. Divide people by race, since they can't do it through wealth or affluence. Please show me that I'm wrong...doesn't it state that white people are oppressors? Doesn't it state that people of color are oppressed?

3507

What if it _does_ say that white people are oppressors? Would that be true? _Historically_ it _was_ true, at least! So in a history class that fact about the past should be acknowledged -- not necessarily that they were oppressors because they were "white", but pretty close to it: a rather significant lot of white people did use race to justify some of their big oppressions of those they regarded as non-white.

Aside from whether "white people" are oppressors NOW, here I'm just doing the easier part, which is to talk about what has happened in history.

WEBCO

You do understand that ALL ethnic groups were s***es, right? Africa had over 1,000,000 white s***es from the 1500's to the 1700's. S***ery was, and is in China, a horrible thing. It's been outlawed though.

You also need to understand that Marxism has cost way more people their lives then S***ery ever could. This d******e ideology k**led 60 to 100 million people, just in the 20th century.

Why would anyone want to teach the virtues of Marxism? Why would you want to teach r****m, self loathing, and h**e for ones country/way of life?

Personally I like Dr. Martin Luther Kings ideology better. Just doing the easy part, and talking about history.

3507

Re: your 1st paragraph ("...ALL...s***es..."): So? I believe it's beside the point. Throughout the history (or at least most of the history) of the U.S.A. the people who called themselves "white" did most grievously oppress other groups which they regarded as non-white, and, throughout the history of the U.S.A. this did not happen anywhere near as much the other way (non-w****s did not oppress w****s anywhere near as much). All those oppressions are very important parts of this history of this country. But if one wants to talk about World History going back far enough, then those other oppressions you mention would also be relevant -- although I notice the oppression against w****s seems to be further back in the past, which may affect what kinds of relevancy it has.

Your 2nd paragraph: ("...Marxism ... cost... lives..."). Were we talking about Marxism? I would say that Marxism probably hasn't cost any more lives than Capitalism has. One difference between the two, I think, is that Marxism, among Marxists, is probably better defined than is Capitalism, among Capitalists; and how well defined something is affects how one can pin blame on it. People in the U.S.A. probably don't know much about either of them, but are merely quick to label things such as to call them "Marxist" or to use the supposed evils of some other system like that to divert attention from what's going on closer to home. In the U.S., "Marxism" is a thing popularly criticized, while "Capitalism" isn't really looked at much, as though it were the water and the people have been swimming in it all their lives and don't know what "water" is because they've never experienced the absence of it. Someone who has studied and experienced multiple systems (e.g., both Capitalism and Marxism) would be in a position to criticize both, and compare both, and that would be educational and useful. Criticizing just one of them doesn't accomplish anything.

Your 3rd paragraph has multiple issues in it; one of them is about "teach[ing] ... self-loathing, and h**e for
ones country/way of life". Self-loathing and self-aggrandizing are both for dummies. Knowledge and perspective are better than ignorance and narrowmindedness. One way (the latter) leads to things like ethnocide, genocide, r****m, and institutionalized racial s***ery; the other way leads out of such things and fosters respect where respect is deserved.

Rose42

First you will have to understand what it is. Obviously you only know the propaganda.

Rose42

So says one who readily swallows propaganda. I’m sure the irony is lost on you