Bernie Nails It! (Page 2): The government is non profit. They don’t rob anything . Unless the republicans are in office.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

lindajoy wrote:

The government is paying themselves with it along with robbing it every time they turn around... Whats the difference?? My ability to invest as I wish and move it as I wish is still my choice, taken from me before I was even born!!!

The government is non profit. They don’t rob anything . Unless the republicans are in office.

Rose42

Milosia2 wrote:

The government is non profit. They don’t rob anything . Unless the republicans are in office.

The government robs us all. Biden is off to a great start with respects to robbery.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Milosia2 wrote:

The government is non profit. They don’t rob anything . Unless the republicans are in office.

Oh good damn grief, never mind!

ChJoe

lindajoy wrote:

Oh good damn grief, never mind!

Milktoast2 is kray kray.

Cuda2020

Liberty Tree wrote:

By that twisted thinking anyone who sends their child to public school is a socialist, as is anyone who drives on an interstate, or calls upon a city fire department. There is a difference between government providing benefits and government controlling the people with benefits. Todays Democrats prefer the latter which makes them Stalinist Marxists.

You were doing pretty good until you fell off the cliff with your bias brainwashed anti-Democrat diatribe.People forget our history and what happened to people after the depression and why it inacted us to create SS, which still today people depend on for a very limited living, but at least survivable.

Employees pay Social Security taxes of 6.2% of their eligible earnings up to a wage limit.

In 2020, the wage limit was $137,700.

If your wages exceed that limit, you stop paying Social Security taxes at that point.

What you might not know is that you are not the only one paying Social Security taxes. Your employer must match the amount you pay.

That adds 6.2% for a total Social Security tax of 12.4%.

People are unaware of what we may have gone through after our so called great *recession*, as it was it took many people out of retirement and back to work when these elderly people thought they could rest. I am very grateful for the many that are able to survive with it.I guess if not for that we'd have a lot of families taking in their parents.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

PeterS wrote:

So welcome to socialist America!

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
WC

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
MT

" ….there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. …liberty, in all its forms is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism. …there is to be one State to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State is to be the arch-employer, the arch-planner, the arch-administrator and ruler, and the arch-caucus boss.

A Socialist State once thoroughly completed in all its details and aspects… could not afford opposition. Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.

But I will go farther. I declare to you, from the bottom of my heart that no Socialist system can be established without a political police. Many of those who are advocating Socialism or v****g Socialist today will be horrified at this idea. That is because they are shortsighted, that is because they do not see where their theories are leading them.

No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.

And this would nip opinion in the bud; it would stop criticism as it reared its head, and it would gather all the power to the supreme party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of Civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil. And where would the ordinary simple folk—the common people, as they like to call them in America—where would they be, once this mighty organism had got them in its grip?
WC, BBC broadcast, June 4, 1945

Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger

A perilous possibility now confronts us—the conversion of America, the leading capitalist nation in the world, into a socialist state. Impossible, you say? Consider the following.

The national polls continue to show that a large majority of millennials have a favorable view of socialism. A near majority favor the “compassion” of socialism over capitalism which, they argue, is indifferent to the needs of the people, especially those on the bottom rung of the economic ladder.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt)—an avowed socialist—and the equally “progressive” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) continue to run strong in the p**********l primaries; their combined support is close to 40 percent among Democrats polled. Younger Americans cheer their promises of universal health care and free education, while brushing aside the proposals’ trillion-dollar price tag.

Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and members of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) support government ownership of industries whose products are viewed as “necessities” (railroads, coal mines, social media, who knows?). They say that, to the greatest extent possible, government should “democratize” private businesses—that is, give control of them to workers. “Socialism,” says a member of DSA’s national steering committee, “is the democratization of all areas of life, including but not limited to the economy.” So much for the Declaration of Independence and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

We must acknowledge that the Great Recession of 2008 tore a huge hole in the American people’s faith in capitalism as the way to a better life and sent them looking for alternatives. Many of them, especially younger Americans, found it in a “soft socialism” that was part welfare state, part administrative state, part socialist state. Capitalists failed to present a persuasive case for free markets, beginning with Milton Friedman’s famous axiom: “There is no such thing as a free lunch.”

Socialists love to cite Sweden and Denmark as socialist models, but these Scandinavian countries favor the free market over socialism in running their economies and are content with private rather than government ownership of their major industries. Speaking before the National Press Club, the Danish prime minister opened his remarks by emphasizing that Denmark is not a socialist country.

What is to be done?

We must educate the rising generation about the true costs of socialism, and not just in dollars and cents. Would a majority of millennials choose socialism if in exchange for “free” education and “free” health care, they would have to give up their personal property such as their iPhone and their iPad? This is not simply a possibility--the abolition of private property is the first dictum of socialism.

Would seven percent of millennials be willing to accept c*******m with its denial of free speech, a free press, free assembly, the imprisonment and often execution of dissidents, no open e******ns, no independent judiciary or rule of law, the dictatorship of the C*******t Party in all matters and on all occasions? This is the c*******m of China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Nicaragua.

Socialists like to say that socialism has never failed because it has never been tried. But in fact socialism has failed in every country where it has been tried, from the Soviet Union and the People’s Republic of China to three non-c*******t countries that tried but ultimately rejected socialism. All three countries of those countries—Israel, India, and the United Kingdom—adhered to socialist principles and practices for more than 20 years, only to change direction and adopt capitalism as the better way to economic prosperity. As a result, India today has the largest middle class in the free world.

The PRC has the second largest economy because in the late 1970s Deng Xiaoping abandoned the rigid excesses of Maoist thought and adopted a form of c*******m that allowed foreign investments and even a stock market while underwriting SOEs (state-owned enterprises). At the same time, Deng ensured strict political control of China through the C*******t Party and the People’s Liberation Army, in accordance with Mao Zedong’s motto, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

Socialism’s central philosophical weakness is its dependence upon the errant thought of its founder, Karl Marx. Marx insisted that his version of Hegelian dialectic—thesis, antithesis, synthesis—was scientific and without flaw. He asserted that feudalism had been replaced by capitalism which would be replaced by socialism and then c*******m in an irreversible process. But 200 years after the publication of “The C*******t Manifesto,” capitalism rather than socialism dominates the global economy. According to the Heritage Foundation’s “2018 Index of Economic Freedom,” 102 countries, many with less developed or emerging economies, showed advances in economic growth and individual prosperity. As the esteemed economist Paul Samuelson wrote, “As a prophet Marx was colossally unlucky and his system colossally unuseful.”

Socialism depends upon the decision-making of a central government. The Nobel laureate F. A. Hayek put it succinctly: “Planning leads to dictatorship.” Without exception, every leader from Lenin to Castro promised to initiate basic freedoms such as free e******ns, a free press, free assembly, and religious freedom. None fulfilled these promises. Is a world without freedom, without choice, without basic human rights the world that millennials would choose if they had a choice?

This is our challenge: to tell the t***h, the whole t***h and nothing but the t***h about socialism—a pseudo-religion grounded in pseudo-science and enforced by political might. This is our obligation to this generation and generations to come: to make the case against socialism, a god that failed, a science that never was, a political system headed for the ash heap of history.

Cuda2020

Blade_Runner wrote:

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
WC

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
MT

" ….there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. …liberty, in all its forms is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism. …there is to be one State to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State is to be the arch-employer, the arch-planner, the arch-administrator and ruler, and the arch-caucus boss.

A Socialist State once thoroughly completed in all its details and aspects… could not afford opposition. Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.

But I will go farther. I declare to you, from the bottom of my heart that no Socialist system can be established without a political police. Many of those who are advocating Socialism or v****g Socialist today will be horrified at this idea. That is because they are shortsighted, that is because they do not see where their theories are leading them.

No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.

And this would nip opinion in the bud; it would stop criticism as it reared its head, and it would gather all the power to the supreme party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of Civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil. And where would the ordinary simple folk—the common people, as they like to call them in America—where would they be, once this mighty organism had got them in its grip?
WC, BBC broadcast, June 4, 1945

Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger

A perilous possibility now confronts us—the conversion of America, the leading capitalist nation in the world, into a socialist state. Impossible, you say? Consider the following.

The national polls continue to show that a large majority of millennials have a favorable view of socialism. A near majority favor the “compassion” of socialism over capitalism which, they argue, is indifferent to the needs of the people, especially those on the bottom rung of the economic ladder.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt)—an avowed socialist—and the equally “progressive” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) continue to run strong in the p**********l primaries; their combined support is close to 40 percent among Democrats polled. Younger Americans cheer their promises of universal health care and free education, while brushing aside the proposals’ trillion-dollar price tag.

Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and members of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) support government ownership of industries whose products are viewed as “necessities” (railroads, coal mines, social media, who knows?). They say that, to the greatest extent possible, government should “democratize” private businesses—that is, give control of them to workers. “Socialism,” says a member of DSA’s national steering committee, “is the democratization of all areas of life, including but not limited to the economy.” So much for the Declaration of Independence and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

We must acknowledge that the Great Recession of 2008 tore a huge hole in the American people’s faith in capitalism as the way to a better life and sent them looking for alternatives. Many of them, especially younger Americans, found it in a “soft socialism” that was part welfare state, part administrative state, part socialist state. Capitalists failed to present a persuasive case for free markets, beginning with Milton Friedman’s famous axiom: “There is no such thing as a free lunch.”

Socialists love to cite Sweden and Denmark as socialist models, but these Scandinavian countries favor the free market over socialism in running their economies and are content with private rather than government ownership of their major industries. Speaking before the National Press Club, the Danish prime minister opened his remarks by emphasizing that Denmark is not a socialist country.

What is to be done?

We must educate the rising generation about the true costs of socialism, and not just in dollars and cents. Would a majority of millennials choose socialism if in exchange for “free” education and “free” health care, they would have to give up their personal property such as their iPhone and their iPad? This is not simply a possibility--the abolition of private property is the first dictum of socialism.

Would seven percent of millennials be willing to accept c*******m with its denial of free speech, a free press, free assembly, the imprisonment and often execution of dissidents, no open e******ns, no independent judiciary or rule of law, the dictatorship of the C*******t Party in all matters and on all occasions? This is the c*******m of China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Nicaragua.

Socialists like to say that socialism has never failed because it has never been tried. But in fact socialism has failed in every country where it has been tried, from the Soviet Union and the People’s Republic of China to three non-c*******t countries that tried but ultimately rejected socialism. All three countries of those countries—Israel, India, and the United Kingdom—adhered to socialist principles and practices for more than 20 years, only to change direction and adopt capitalism as the better way to economic prosperity. As a result, India today has the largest middle class in the free world.

The PRC has the second largest economy because in the late 1970s Deng Xiaoping abandoned the rigid excesses of Maoist thought and adopted a form of c*******m that allowed foreign investments and even a stock market while underwriting SOEs (state-owned enterprises). At the same time, Deng ensured strict political control of China through the C*******t Party and the People’s Liberation Army, in accordance with Mao Zedong’s motto, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

Socialism’s central philosophical weakness is its dependence upon the errant thought of its founder, Karl Marx. Marx insisted that his version of Hegelian dialectic—thesis, antithesis, synthesis—was scientific and without flaw. He asserted that feudalism had been replaced by capitalism which would be replaced by socialism and then c*******m in an irreversible process. But 200 years after the publication of “The C*******t Manifesto,” capitalism rather than socialism dominates the global economy. According to the Heritage Foundation’s “2018 Index of Economic Freedom,” 102 countries, many with less developed or emerging economies, showed advances in economic growth and individual prosperity. As the esteemed economist Paul Samuelson wrote, “As a prophet Marx was colossally unlucky and his system colossally unuseful.”

Socialism depends upon the decision-making of a central government. The Nobel laureate F. A. Hayek put it succinctly: “Planning leads to dictatorship.” Without exception, every leader from Lenin to Castro promised to initiate basic freedoms such as free e******ns, a free press, free assembly, and religious freedom. None fulfilled these promises. Is a world without freedom, without choice, without basic human rights the world that millennials would choose if they had a choice?

This is our challenge: to tell the t***h, the whole t***h and nothing but the t***h about socialism—a pseudo-religion grounded in pseudo-science and enforced by political might. This is our obligation to this generation and generations to come: to make the case against socialism, a god that failed, a science that never was, a political system headed for the ash heap of history.

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Blade you fighting a fight that doesn't exist.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Cuda2020 wrote:

Blade you fighting a fight that doesn't exist.

Really? Socialism has been around for a very long time, how could you possibly deny the very thing you believe in?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

SoSec is a good thing. It's motivating. For instance, I did some seat-of-the-pants math and now I have a reason to live to at least 92 years. That's the year when I'll start making a profit on the money the goobermint extorted out of all those paychecks. See? Good in everything.

By the time im eligible they will have found a way to take it away

my white privilege should carry me.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Milosia2 wrote:

The government is non profit. They don’t rob anything . Unless the republicans are in office.

How dumb are you? Really? Look around Mensa........ your democrat buddies are fleecing America, and in your face with it.

Republican what?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

lindajoy wrote:

The government is paying themselves with it along with robbing it every time they turn around... Whats the difference?? My ability to invest as I wish and move it as I wish is still my choice, taken from me before I was even born!!!

The government is non profit.
No executives, no CEOs.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

How dumb are you? Really? Look around Mensa........ your democrat buddies are fleecing America, and in your face with it.

Republican what?

It isn’t my Democrat buddies fleecing anything. I don’t see it.
Jobs are on the rise, things are opening up, unemployment is going down, people seem much happier than they have been in years.
Why should this bother you ?
Got plans for the 4th.
What are you planning to celebrate ?.??
Maybe I should ask your handlers.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Milosia2 wrote:

It isn’t my Democrat buddies fleecing anything. I don’t see it.
Jobs are on the rise, things are opening up, unemployment is going down, people seem much happier than they have been in years.
Why should this bother you ?
Got plans for the 4th.
What are you planning to celebrate ?.??
Maybe I should ask your handlers.

Of course, you don't see it, you"re blind as a rabid bat.

The rise in jobs is nothing more than people going back to the jobs they had before the petty tyrants in DC and blue states politicized the p******c and shut them down. Except, of course, the thousands of high paying jobs that were lost permanently when the socialist patsy in the WH began shutting down a critical industry, and all because he and all of you fools swallowed a monumental global s**m.

If the C*******t assault on OUR Constitution and our American way of life isn't stopped, even reversed, if it goes on unopposed, unfettered, uncontrolled, within a year you're gonna be singing a very different tune, like "WTF just happened, I didn't see this coming."

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

ChJoe wrote:

Milktoast2 is kray kray.

Yea well I’m thinking a “ karen for sure~~🤦🏻‍♀️

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Milosia2 wrote:

The government is non profit.
No executives, no CEOs.

Let me share a little something with you~~This government is not a nonprofit organization!!! It is a “sovereign entity “that exercises authority over “all” in any capacity in the land with which it presides!!!
It does not operate under a 501c3 which should have been your first clue~~🤦🏻‍♀️ 🙄
Likewise Executives and CEOs have nothing to do with whether or not they are non profits whom have plenty~~😳
In fact not only dependent on its citizens ( taxes) but on those non profits as well..