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Jun 10, 2021 15:39:52   #
moldyoldy
 
American Vet wrote:
3 armed people - not much of an i**********n.

And who fired shots? Those 3? Were they the ones who shot the woman? Nope - unarmed woman shot by police.

• Ashli Babbitt, 35, died by homicide from a gunshot to the left shoulder. She was shot by a C*****l p****e officer while trying to climb through a door near the House chamber.

Pretty pathetic Permy.


You seem to forget bombs planted around the capital and trucks loaded with explosives and a strike force standing by at a motel nearby.

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Jun 10, 2021 16:11:48   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You seem to forget bombs planted around the capital and trucks loaded with explosives and a strike force standing by at a motel nearby.


Now there's a load of BS you don't see very often.

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Jun 10, 2021 16:35:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
V***r f***d... as I have made clear, we had none, so no need, no reason , and nothing to find..

the only c***ting was trump trying to shut down the postal service to prevent mail in v****g. and pulling down collection boxes, and shutting down v****g times at polling stations and removing the stations themselves so dems could not v**e and hold recount after recount forever thinking his dishonest counters would "find" those v**es he never had..

all for naught, if such a bunch of things did happen he could not be gifted with office as the constatution has been followed and all is done and gone..

but,, by damn, let us get to the bottom of the capital i**********n trump lied, well of course he did.. people died.. and America lost. The world is laughing as we yap about the deeds of other nations when we can not even keep order in our own e******ns..

Yes, the trump rats truly screwed the pooch on this one.. decades to recover or maybe never all for the orange perp..
V***r f***d... as I have made clear, we had none, ... (show quote)


Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a politically induced coma, or who hadn't been infected with a terminal case of media propaganda, or who wasn't just fundamentally stupid, and whose observational and critical thinking sk**ls were fully functional saw clearly, beyond reasonable doubt, that the last e******n was a massive fraud.

A comparison of the campaign activities of both candidates leading up to the e******n is undoubtedly the best yardstick in determining the level of support for each candidate.

The difference in the number of rallies each candidate held and the number of supporters in attendance was phenomenal. For example, in the final 3 weeks of the campaign, president Trump campaigned 21 straight days, making 48 stops across 15 states, according to the Chicago Tribune’s tracker of campaign stops. Over the same three weeks, Biden appeared at 23 events in 10 states.

On a blistery cold and snowy Sunday morning, Trump drew thousands to a park in Macomb County, Michigan — a key county in suburban Detroit filled with white, blue-collar workers that the president won four years ago on his way to a narrow victory in the state.

Over the last three days before the e******n, president Trump held 14 rallies in 7 states.

President Trump drew thousands of supporters, often getting a number of requests to attend that doubled or tripled the seating capacity of the venue. Biden, OTH, was lucky to see a thousand show up.

Nor can we ignore the number of spontaneous vehicle parades, boat flotillas, and even skywriting aircraft, that came out in support of president Trump. The number of supporters participating in these unscheduled events outstripped the numbers attending Biden's official rallies by a wide margin.

Based on these observations alone, it simply was not possible for Joe Biden to receive 80 million v**es WITHOUT implementing the "most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics" of which he spoke.

Further observations reveal that v***r f***d occurred primarily in swing states (battleground), and in some cases were egregious violations of our constitution and state e******n laws.

A year before the e******n, Biden's favorite country unleashed its biological hell on the human race. The ensuing lock downs, restrictive mandates, and draconian rules forced v**ers to stay home and drove Joe Biden into hiding. His rallies then became a surreal display of socially distanced, mask wearing, fearful sourpusses who seemed to have no clue what Biden was babbling about.

With the lock downs firmly in place, the conditions were set for an organized v***r f***d campaign to proceed unfettered by our Constitution and state e******n laws. The petty tyrants in blue and swing states made damned sure of that.

Furthermore, based on the processes for civil litigation, any argument suggesting the dismissal of v***r f***d complaints is proof that fraud did not occur is meaningless. Federal judges and even SCOTUS justices summarily dismissed the complaints during the filing stage on grounds of lack of evidence. (The filing stage is simply the procedure for notifying the court and the defendant that a case is forthcoming.)

Evidence is not introduced during the filing stage of the process, therefore the plaintiffs were not allowed to take their case to discovery where all evidentiary materials, witness lists, depositions, testimonials, and other case pertinent information is admitted to the court. IOW, the judges themselves were participants in defrauding American v**ers.

Bottom line, there is no way Joe Biden could have secured 80 million v**es and won the e******n without c***ting.

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Jun 10, 2021 16:40:07   #
ChJoe
 
permafrost wrote:
More probably they were quoting Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, he made a commotion but he only repeated part of someone's statement.. that is lying by omission common from Ron.. he likes that tactic..

I doubt you used a search engine that showed sources google did not.. I have issues about google but content is not one of of them..

If you follow my original link you will see this is mentioned.. if Johnson had repeated all of the statement you would have gotten a different overview of the event..

I have included a bit more for your reading enjoyment..

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s counterterrorism division, how many guns the FBI had confiscated in the Capitol or on its grounds on J*** 6.

“To my knowledge, none,” Sanborn is quoted as saying in several outlets, including The Epoch Times. At least one other outlet quoted The Epoch Times coverage.

But that leaves out the first part of Sanborn’s response, when she declined to speak for the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department or U.S. C*****l P****e.

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the J*** 6 r**t, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.
More probably they were quoting Ron Johnson from W... (show quote)


I am afraid you would be wrong about other search injuns. As for the statement, that was a full 2 months after the fact and at no time had the FBI said any gun arrests had been made and we know that there were three of the r****rs who were arrested had vehicles parked a ways away that allegedly had guns in them; legally I might add.

Of course we know the record of USA today in reporting "facts."

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Jun 10, 2021 16:42:11   #
ChJoe
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a politically induced coma, or who hadn't been infected with a terminal case of media propaganda, or who wasn't just fundamentally stupid, and whose observational and critical thinking sk**ls were fully functional saw clearly, beyond reasonable doubt, that the last e******n was a massive fraud.

A comparison of the campaign activities of both candidates leading up to the e******n is undoubtedly the best yardstick in determining the level of support for each candidate.

The difference in the number of rallies each candidate held and the number of supporters in attendance was phenomenal. For example, in the final 3 weeks of the campaign, president Trump campaigned 21 straight days, making 48 stops across 15 states, according to the Chicago Tribune’s tracker of campaign stops. Over the same three weeks, Biden appeared at 23 events in 10 states.

On a blistery cold and snowy Sunday morning, Trump drew thousands to a park in Macomb County, Michigan — a key county in suburban Detroit filled with white, blue-collar workers that the president won four years ago on his way to a narrow victory in the state.

Over the last three days before the e******n, president Trump held 14 rallies in 7 states.

President Trump drew thousands of supporters, often getting a number of requests to attend that doubled or tripled the seating capacity of the venue. Biden, OTH, was lucky to see a thousand show up.

Nor can we ignore the number of spontaneous vehicle parades, boat flotillas, and even skywriting aircraft, that came out in support of president Trump. The number of supporters participating in these unscheduled events outstripped the numbers attending Biden's official rallies by a wide margin.

Based on these observations alone, it simply was not possible for Joe Biden to receive 80 million v**es WITHOUT implementing the "most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics" of which he spoke.

Further observations reveal that v***r f***d occurred primarily in swing states (battleground), and in some cases were egregious violations of our constitution and state e******n laws.

A year before the e******n, Biden's favorite country unleashed its biological hell on the human race. The ensuing lock downs, restrictive mandates, and draconian rules forced v**ers to stay home and drove Joe Biden into hiding. His rallies then became a surreal display of socially distanced, mask wearing, fearful sourpusses who seemed to have no clue what Biden was babbling about.

With the lock downs firmly in place, the conditions were set for an organized v***r f***d campaign to proceed unfettered by our Constitution and state e******n laws. The petty tyrants in blue and swing states made damned sure of that.

Furthermore, based on the processes for civil litigation, any argument suggesting the dismissal of v***r f***d complaints is proof that fraud did not occur is meaningless. Federal judges and even SCOTUS justices summarily dismissed the complaints during the filing stage on grounds of lack of evidence. (The filing stage is simply the procedure for notifying the court and the defendant that a case is forthcoming.)

Evidence is not introduced during the filing stage of the process, therefore the plaintiffs were not allowed to take their case to discovery where all evidentiary materials, witness lists, depositions, testimonials, and other case pertinent information is admitted to the court. IOW, the judges themselves were participants in defrauding American v**ers.

Bottom line, there is no way Joe Biden could have secured 80 million v**es and won the e******n without c***ting.
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a p... (show quote)


It used to be that we could trust the media and they, for the most part, agreed with each other; they weren't pundits. Now there is next to no media outlets we can trust to be objective and simply report news. Those days are gone, gone.

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Jun 10, 2021 17:35:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a politically induced coma, or who hadn't been infected with a terminal case of media propaganda, or who wasn't just fundamentally stupid, and whose observational and critical thinking sk**ls were fully functional saw clearly, beyond reasonable doubt, that the last e******n was a massive fraud.

A comparison of the campaign activities of both candidates leading up to the e******n is undoubtedly the best yardstick in determining the level of support for each candidate.

The difference in the number of rallies each candidate held and the number of supporters in attendance was phenomenal. For example, in the final 3 weeks of the campaign, president Trump campaigned 21 straight days, making 48 stops across 15 states, according to the Chicago Tribune’s tracker of campaign stops. Over the same three weeks, Biden appeared at 23 events in 10 states.

On a blistery cold and snowy Sunday morning, Trump drew thousands to a park in Macomb County, Michigan — a key county in suburban Detroit filled with white, blue-collar workers that the president won four years ago on his way to a narrow victory in the state.

Over the last three days before the e******n, president Trump held 14 rallies in 7 states.

President Trump drew thousands of supporters, often getting a number of requests to attend that doubled or tripled the seating capacity of the venue. Biden, OTH, was lucky to see a thousand show up.

Nor can we ignore the number of spontaneous vehicle parades, boat flotillas, and even skywriting aircraft, that came out in support of president Trump. The number of supporters participating in these unscheduled events outstripped the numbers attending Biden's official rallies by a wide margin.

Based on these observations alone, it simply was not possible for Joe Biden to receive 80 million v**es WITHOUT implementing the "most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics" of which he spoke.

Further observations reveal that v***r f***d occurred primarily in swing states (battleground), and in some cases were egregious violations of our constitution and state e******n laws.

A year before the e******n, Biden's favorite country unleashed its biological hell on the human race. The ensuing lock downs, restrictive mandates, and draconian rules forced v**ers to stay home and drove Joe Biden into hiding. His rallies then became a surreal display of socially distanced, mask wearing, fearful sourpusses who seemed to have no clue what Biden was babbling about.

With the lock downs firmly in place, the conditions were set for an organized v***r f***d campaign to proceed unfettered by our Constitution and state e******n laws. The petty tyrants in blue and swing states made damned sure of that.

Furthermore, based on the processes for civil litigation, any argument suggesting the dismissal of v***r f***d complaints is proof that fraud did not occur is meaningless. Federal judges and even SCOTUS justices summarily dismissed the complaints during the filing stage on grounds of lack of evidence. (The filing stage is simply the procedure for notifying the court and the defendant that a case is forthcoming.)

Evidence is not introduced during the filing stage of the process, therefore the plaintiffs were not allowed to take their case to discovery where all evidentiary materials, witness lists, depositions, testimonials, and other case pertinent information is admitted to the court. IOW, the judges themselves were participants in defrauding American v**ers.

Bottom line, there is no way Joe Biden could have secured 80 million v**es and won the e******n without c***ting.
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a p... (show quote)




Darn blade, you are tossing a load of BS today.. having fun are we...

first, consider her type of rallies the two candidates used.. trump , emulating the N**i tactic of a filled stadium and chanting supported demanded numbers and noise, recruiting at all his spectacles as if they were holding char**t races.. just like Hitler in his days.. same thing same reason.

When some of his supporters died he never even said "sorry" sh** happens.. it was about him and as long as that was clear all was good..

Biden chose to care about who the hell died .. low key , yes indeed.. but he was a landslide winner from the getgo..

You b***hing about the rules??? what the hell they changed them the morning of the day before.. lord you people are whimpering about rules put in place by republicans and still not happy..

the court cases you lost over 60.. so you cry foul.. the whole justice system c***ted a huge world wide plot to keep trump away.. hell, trump got fired because he was useless, ineffective corrupt and defiled the very title of what he was supposed to be.. allowing him to slither into the oval office was the lowest point in the history of the united states, only approached by this very i**********n we are supposed to be discussing.. try and concentrate..

Discovery is a process in court where both parties are given the information to be judged in the court case.. before the court agrees to hear a case the prosecution must present enough facts to indicate a law violation may have taken place. .. this is not "Discovery"

don't confuse the differing court procedures..

In the case of the Texas circus, no state can require any other state to abide by laws written in any other state.. Texas had no standing at all to file that court case..

so this reply is not up to your standards.. nothing at all indicates v***r f***d.. no case at all.. only a bunch of ungrateful turds b***hing because they lost, the the golden calf was fired..

You should thank your lucky stars the nation was saved at least for a short time.. we will fight on to keep the dregs of our nation out of our government.. are trying task to say the least. but no more record setting criminals defiling the chairs of the nation, end of the bastards..



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Jun 10, 2021 17:36:12   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You seem to forget bombs planted around the capital and trucks loaded with explosives and a strike force standing by at a motel nearby.


All A****a.

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Jun 10, 2021 17:40:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ChJoe wrote:
I am afraid you would be wrong about other search injuns. As for the statement, that was a full 2 months after the fact and at no time had the FBI said any gun arrests had been made and we know that there were three of the r****rs who were arrested had vehicles parked a ways away that allegedly had guns in them; legally I might add.

Of course we know the record of USA today in reporting "facts."




I Should keep attention to the picky tactics of you toddies'.. so use this article.. you will not like it I did leave out the most incriminating parts to not soil your poor knickers'..

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/


DEBUNKING FALSE STORIES
Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons
By Joseph A. Gambardello

Posted on March 10, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021

Quick Take
Conservative social media posts misleadingly claim the attack on the U.S. Capitol on J*** 6 was not an “armed” i**********n, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people have been charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault — including a loaded handgun found on a man arrested on Capitol grounds.

Full Story
On March 3, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and Senate Committee on Rules and Administration held a joint hearing on the J*** 6 attack on Capitol Hill. The assault left five people dead and scores injured, including at least 138 Capitol and Metropolitan Police Department officers.

During the hearing, Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division, “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?”

“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” Sanborn said. “But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and C*****l P****e.”

Social media posts latched on to the answer to misleadingly purport that the protesters were not armed.

One meme, showing a photo of protesters inside the Capitol, falsely claimed: “Senate testimony this week confirms that no Capitol protesters were armed and not a single weapon was found. Clearly NOT i**********n, NOT an attempt to o*******w the government, just out of control protestors that saw inadequate security and ran thru the building.”

An article on the conservative website Gateway Pundit — which was cited on the website of conservative commentator David Harris Jr. — carried the headline: “Another Democrat-Media Narrative Goes Up in Flames: FBI Official Admits No Firearms Were Confiscated by Law Enforcement at Capitol R**t.”

But a wide array of lethal weapons — including a firearm — were found on protesters at the Capitol.

The Metropolitan Police Department reported its officers, while trying to clear the Capitol grounds about 7 p.m. on J*** 6, arrested and charged a 33-year-old Maryland man with the federal offense of carrying a fully loaded 9mm semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds. The suspect, Christopher Michael Alberts, also was carrying a second magazine.

Social media posts claiming that protesters were not armed also do not address the issue of other weapons used by assailants at the Capitol — or the seizure of guns from supporters before and after the r**t.

In legal terms, “armed” means being in possession of any weapon, not just a firearm. While there are laws that specifically address firearms, weapons can include virtually any object used to threaten or cause harm.

According to a database compiled by NPR, of the people charged with violent offenses, including assault on police officers, 15 were armed with deadly or dangerous weapons during the r**t at the Capitol.

Eight others facing civil disorder or property destruction charges also were charged with possessing weapons, according to the database.

Those weapons included baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s r**t shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal f**gpole.

Thomas Webster, a retired New York Police Department officer, was charged with attacking a Metropolitan Police Department officer with a metal f**gpole. The federal complaint says he struck at the officer “with the f**gpole numerous times.”

Before and after the storming of the Capitol, NBC News reported, police seized a dozen firearms, including an assault rifle, and thousands of rounds of ammunition from seven people attending the rally for President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. Other weapons included a crossbow, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails.

The FBI, in a statement to FactCheck.org on March 5, said Sanborn had testified “in her capacity as the FBI Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division. Her responses were restricted to FBI investigative matters and she appropriately deferred to other law enforcement partners for their information.”

Asha Rangappa, an attorney and former FBI agent, told us in an email that she did “not see the logic” in the claim that firearms had to be present for the Capitol r**t to have been deemed an armed i**********n.

She also said we will never know how many r****rs might have been armed with guns on J*** 6, because only some were arrested that day.

“Not only was law enforcement completely overwhelmed (and being assaulted), from what I saw people were basically allowed to leave unimpeded,” said Rangappa, a senior lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs. “So those arrested … are hardly representative of everyone who was there that day.”

Update, May 24: The C*****l P****e and the Justice Department initially reported that C*****l P****e Officer Brian Sicknick died as a result of injuries sustained during the r**t. In April, the Washington Post reported that District of Columbia Chief Medical Examiner Francisco J. Diaz found that Sicknick suffered two strokes nearly eight hours after being sprayed with a chemical irritant during the r**t. Diaz told the Post that Sicknick died of natural causes, but “all that t***spired played a role in his condition.”

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Jun 10, 2021 17:46:33   #
moldyoldy
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a politically induced coma, or who hadn't been infected with a terminal case of media propaganda, or who wasn't just fundamentally stupid, and whose observational and critical thinking sk**ls were fully functional saw clearly, beyond reasonable doubt, that the last e******n was a massive fraud.

A comparison of the campaign activities of both candidates leading up to the e******n is undoubtedly the best yardstick in determining the level of support for each candidate.

The difference in the number of rallies each candidate held and the number of supporters in attendance was phenomenal. For example, in the final 3 weeks of the campaign, president Trump campaigned 21 straight days, making 48 stops across 15 states, according to the Chicago Tribune’s tracker of campaign stops. Over the same three weeks, Biden appeared at 23 events in 10 states.

On a blistery cold and snowy Sunday morning, Trump drew thousands to a park in Macomb County, Michigan — a key county in suburban Detroit filled with white, blue-collar workers that the president won four years ago on his way to a narrow victory in the state.

Over the last three days before the e******n, president Trump held 14 rallies in 7 states.

President Trump drew thousands of supporters, often getting a number of requests to attend that doubled or tripled the seating capacity of the venue. Biden, OTH, was lucky to see a thousand show up.

Nor can we ignore the number of spontaneous vehicle parades, boat flotillas, and even skywriting aircraft, that came out in support of president Trump. The number of supporters participating in these unscheduled events outstripped the numbers attending Biden's official rallies by a wide margin.

Based on these observations alone, it simply was not possible for Joe Biden to receive 80 million v**es WITHOUT implementing the "most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics" of which he spoke.

Further observations reveal that v***r f***d occurred primarily in swing states (battleground), and in some cases were egregious violations of our constitution and state e******n laws.

A year before the e******n, Biden's favorite country unleashed its biological hell on the human race. The ensuing lock downs, restrictive mandates, and draconian rules forced v**ers to stay home and drove Joe Biden into hiding. His rallies then became a surreal display of socially distanced, mask wearing, fearful sourpusses who seemed to have no clue what Biden was babbling about.

With the lock downs firmly in place, the conditions were set for an organized v***r f***d campaign to proceed unfettered by our Constitution and state e******n laws. The petty tyrants in blue and swing states made damned sure of that.

Furthermore, based on the processes for civil litigation, any argument suggesting the dismissal of v***r f***d complaints is proof that fraud did not occur is meaningless. Federal judges and even SCOTUS justices summarily dismissed the complaints during the filing stage on grounds of lack of evidence. (The filing stage is simply the procedure for notifying the court and the defendant that a case is forthcoming.)

Evidence is not introduced during the filing stage of the process, therefore the plaintiffs were not allowed to take their case to discovery where all evidentiary materials, witness lists, depositions, testimonials, and other case pertinent information is admitted to the court. IOW, the judges themselves were participants in defrauding American v**ers.

Bottom line, there is no way Joe Biden could have secured 80 million v**es and won the e******n without c***ting.
Any American worthy of the name, who wasn't in a p... (show quote)


Trumps super spreader rallies were the most irresponsible thing in the world.

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Jun 10, 2021 17:46:36   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Darn blade, you are tossing a load of BS today.. having fun are we...

first, consider her type of rallies the two candidates used.. trump , emulating the N**i tactic


LOL One can always tell when a l*****t is on a rant - they usually start with a N**i comparison.

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Jun 10, 2021 17:56:01   #
ChJoe
 
permafrost wrote:
I Should keep attention to the picky tactics of you toddies'.. so use this article.. you will not like it I did leave out the most incriminating parts to not soil your poor knickers'..

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/


DEBUNKING FALSE STORIES
Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons
By Joseph A. Gambardello

Posted on March 10, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021

Quick Take
Conservative social media posts misleadingly claim the attack on the U.S. Capitol on J*** 6 was not an “armed” i**********n, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people have been charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault — including a loaded handgun found on a man arrested on Capitol grounds.

Full Story
On March 3, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and Senate Committee on Rules and Administration held a joint hearing on the J*** 6 attack on Capitol Hill. The assault left five people dead and scores injured, including at least 138 Capitol and Metropolitan Police Department officers.

During the hearing, Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division, “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?”

“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” Sanborn said. “But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and C*****l P****e.”

Social media posts latched on to the answer to misleadingly purport that the protesters were not armed.

One meme, showing a photo of protesters inside the Capitol, falsely claimed: “Senate testimony this week confirms that no Capitol protesters were armed and not a single weapon was found. Clearly NOT i**********n, NOT an attempt to o*******w the government, just out of control protestors that saw inadequate security and ran thru the building.”

An article on the conservative website Gateway Pundit — which was cited on the website of conservative commentator David Harris Jr. — carried the headline: “Another Democrat-Media Narrative Goes Up in Flames: FBI Official Admits No Firearms Were Confiscated by Law Enforcement at Capitol R**t.”

But a wide array of lethal weapons — including a firearm — were found on protesters at the Capitol.

The Metropolitan Police Department reported its officers, while trying to clear the Capitol grounds about 7 p.m. on J*** 6, arrested and charged a 33-year-old Maryland man with the federal offense of carrying a fully loaded 9mm semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds. The suspect, Christopher Michael Alberts, also was carrying a second magazine.

Social media posts claiming that protesters were not armed also do not address the issue of other weapons used by assailants at the Capitol — or the seizure of guns from supporters before and after the r**t.

In legal terms, “armed” means being in possession of any weapon, not just a firearm. While there are laws that specifically address firearms, weapons can include virtually any object used to threaten or cause harm.

According to a database compiled by NPR, of the people charged with violent offenses, including assault on police officers, 15 were armed with deadly or dangerous weapons during the r**t at the Capitol.

Eight others facing civil disorder or property destruction charges also were charged with possessing weapons, according to the database.

Those weapons included baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s r**t shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal f**gpole.

Thomas Webster, a retired New York Police Department officer, was charged with attacking a Metropolitan Police Department officer with a metal f**gpole. The federal complaint says he struck at the officer “with the f**gpole numerous times.”

Before and after the storming of the Capitol, NBC News reported, police seized a dozen firearms, including an assault rifle, and thousands of rounds of ammunition from seven people attending the rally for President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. Other weapons included a crossbow, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails.

The FBI, in a statement to FactCheck.org on March 5, said Sanborn had testified “in her capacity as the FBI Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division. Her responses were restricted to FBI investigative matters and she appropriately deferred to other law enforcement partners for their information.”

Asha Rangappa, an attorney and former FBI agent, told us in an email that she did “not see the logic” in the claim that firearms had to be present for the Capitol r**t to have been deemed an armed i**********n.

She also said we will never know how many r****rs might have been armed with guns on J*** 6, because only some were arrested that day.

“Not only was law enforcement completely overwhelmed (and being assaulted), from what I saw people were basically allowed to leave unimpeded,” said Rangappa, a senior lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs. “So those arrested … are hardly representative of everyone who was there that day.”

Update, May 24: The C*****l P****e and the Justice Department initially reported that C*****l P****e Officer Brian Sicknick died as a result of injuries sustained during the r**t. In April, the Washington Post reported that District of Columbia Chief Medical Examiner Francisco J. Diaz found that Sicknick suffered two strokes nearly eight hours after being sprayed with a chemical irritant during the r**t. Diaz told the Post that Sicknick died of natural causes, but “all that t***spired played a role in his condition.”
I Should keep attention to the picky tactics of yo... (show quote)


All liberal twists, and by l*****t outlets. No one would try to over throw the most powerful country on earth with "weapons" that don't fire deadly projectiles, ie - guns. Guns not in attendance to the actual capital "breach" (being let in by c*****l p****e is not a breach,) don't count. Also, in an i**********n, more than a fraction of those present participate.

IT WAS NOT AN I**********N AND IT WAS NOT INCITED BY TRUMP. It was an unruly bunch who got stupid, as opposed to those who had been r**ting, l**ting, burning and k*****g the entire year before that who were being incited to be violence and breaking the law by A****A, B*M, Maxine Waters and other r****t. Over twenty people were k**led, many of them police, buildings burned, cars destroyed, including federal buildings (US Government buildings) and even the appropriation of property over an extended time period.

It isn't that you actually think it was an i**********n, but politically, you need it to be treated as one so you can use it against a guy who most likely will run again. You know, with Biden doing such i***tic things that he couldn't possibly win again, even with the limited e******n f***d that got him the win this past time.

Yep, y'all NEED it to be an "i**********n" for show, nothing more. That is why the repugs are not going to play with you.

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Jun 10, 2021 17:59:27   #
ChJoe
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trumps super spreader rallies were the most irresponsible thing in the world.


Odd that the B*M r**ts didn't inc c***d cases. Hmmm.

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Jun 10, 2021 18:07:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ChJoe wrote:
All liberal twists, and by l*****t outlets. No one would try to over throw the most powerful country on earth with "weapons" that don't fire deadly projectiles, ie - guns. Guns not in attendance to the actual capital "breach" (being let in by c*****l p****e is not a breach,) don't count. Also, in an i**********n, more than a fraction of those present participate.

IT WAS NOT AN I**********N AND IT WAS NOT INCITED BY TRUMP. It was an unruly bunch who got stupid, as opposed to those who had been r**ting, l**ting, burning and k*****g the entire year before that who were being incited to be violence and breaking the law by A****A, B*M, Maxine Waters and other r****t. Over twenty people were k**led, many of them police, buildings burned, cars destroyed, including federal buildings (US Government buildings) and even the appropriation of property over an extended time period.

It isn't that you actually think it was an i**********n, but politically, you need it to be treated as one so you can use it against a guy who most likely will run again. You know, with Biden doing such i***tic things that he couldn't possibly win again, even with the limited e******n f***d that got him the win this past time.

Yep, y'all NEED it to be an "i**********n" for show, nothing more. That is why the repugs are not going to play with you.
All liberal twists, and by l*****t outlets. No on... (show quote)




You are a silly wannbe clone... trump did indeed incite the i**********n and he should be in orange for the rest of his life.. as for him running again.. as I said he may well be in prison, or he may be dead with his worstening health condition. Or he could simly be h*****g on but in no coherent condition and not able to write his name to run again..

What ever becomes of the wretch, more concern should be used to consider who will actually be running in 2024..

I had the great idea to toss out a name of up and coming dem.. but darn,, I lost the name.. it seems a bunch of republicans want to run. the h*****g of to claim being a trump buddy will help them will send most of them down the drain..

But recovery is a more current a pressing problem so you guys go ahead and cry and whine.. the country will move on, not easily but we will move on..

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Jun 10, 2021 18:13:03   #
ChJoe
 
permafrost wrote:
You are a silly wannbe clone... trump did indeed incite the i**********n and he should be in orange for the rest of his life.. as for him running again.. as I said he may well be in prison, or he may be dead with his worstening health condition. Or he could simly be h*****g on but in no coherent condition and not able to write his name to run again..

What ever becomes of the wretch, more concern should be used to consider who will actually be running in 2024..

I had the great idea to toss out a name of up and coming dem.. but darn,, I lost the name.. it seems a bunch of republicans want to run. the h*****g of to claim being a trump buddy will help them will send most of them down the drain..

But recovery is a more current a pressing problem so you guys go ahead and cry and whine.. the country will move on, not easily but we will move on..
You are a silly wannbe clone... trump did indeed ... (show quote)


Kind of like how Trump openly threatened the President of Ukraine on the phone call we all heard where he did not threaten the president of Ukraine. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the very face of reality, you still see a lie.

Just tell me, with a crowd of over 400,000, why were only a few hundred involved in the "i**********n" armed only with pea shooters and strong language?? Ok, few f**g poles and sticks. I guess they figured to impale all the c*****l p****e and declare victory! LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get real.

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Jun 10, 2021 18:14:24   #
ChJoe
 
permafrost wrote:
You are a silly wannbe clone... trump did indeed incite the i**********n and he should be in orange for the rest of his life.. as for him running again.. as I said he may well be in prison, or he may be dead with his worstening health condition. Or he could simly be h*****g on but in no coherent condition and not able to write his name to run again..

What ever becomes of the wretch, more concern should be used to consider who will actually be running in 2024..

I had the great idea to toss out a name of up and coming dem.. but darn,, I lost the name.. it seems a bunch of republicans want to run. the h*****g of to claim being a trump buddy will help them will send most of them down the drain..

But recovery is a more current a pressing problem so you guys go ahead and cry and whine.. the country will move on, not easily but we will move on..
You are a silly wannbe clone... trump did indeed ... (show quote)


Wannabe clone of what? Your anti-Trump rhetoric steered people away from life saving C***d treatments and some of those people died as a result of it. Own it, cause y'all did it!

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