This was very interesting reading. Somehow it shows liberalism in action. It certainly does not leave conservitives out of the information main stream either. In my enitire life of 82 years I have seen this very thing happen in every political society possible, or nearly so.
Obama does have a real problem now that even The Washington Post is seeing his administration in new light. The AP wire tap has placed every news media on high alert. The idea that big brother has finally been discovered can be traumatic. Puts a whole different twist upon what government
was established to do.
Obama promised he was our savior, but turns out he is getting into every event in our lives. Reminds me of grade school when I first entered the first grade. Every kid had to raise their hand and ask to go to the restroom if the need arose during class. (Teacher may I?).
I suggest everyone read this. Then comment.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/the_end_of_the_obama_illusion.html
This was very interesting reading. Somehow it shows liberalism in action. It certainly does not leave conservitives out of the information main stream either. In my enitire life of 82 years I have seen this very thing happen in every political society possible, or nearly so.
Obama does have a real problem now that even The Washington Post is seeing his administration in new light. The AP wire tap has placed every news media on high alert. The idea that big brother has finally been discovered can be traumatic. Puts a whole different twist upon what government
was established to do.
Obama promised he was our savior, but turns out he is getting into every event in our lives. Reminds me of grade school when I first entered the first grade. Every kid had to raise their hand and ask to go to the restroom if the need arose during class. (Teacher may I?).
I suggest everyone read this. Then comment.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/the_end_of_the_obama_illusion.html
If you are waiting for congress to do anything, don't hold your breath.
Wow!
This is a brilliant example of how much fluff conservative papers kick up without any solid facts. Paragraphs of statements like...
"White House press corps yesterday raked Jay Carney over the coals over various lies and evasions, prompting Megyn Kelley of Fox News to quip, "What's happened?"
... yeah, what lies? Where are the details?
"disillusioned and angry liberals who are starting to grasp that they have been lied to, who realize that a skeptical stance is necessary when examining a narrative offered by team Obama on B******i or the IRS scandal"
... details? facts?
"Obama's just not behaving like the good guy they thought him to be. Awkward questions of character are being raised in their minds."
... what questions?
Then it goes into an example of how a picture can be seen in two different ways using that image of an old/young lady that we've all seen a million times that has NOTHING to do with Obama's supposed lies... but thanks for the art lesson.
Seriously, is this all they got?
Not only that but the conservatives didn't set a very good precedence with their crap about Obama not being born in the US. because Hawaii wasn't a state. Normal people we're all blown away by the ignorance of THAT assault (quick fact check - Obama born in 1961, Hawaii became a state in 1959) Hellooooo...?
And what gave me a special grin was this...
"...while among conservatives, as exemplified over the years at American Thinker, a decidedly more negative interpretation of the biographical facts emerged"
...yeah, American Thinker is exemplary conservative? Ya think?
Don't really see much thinking but OK.
Then it lists a bunch of general topics related to accusations of deciet authored by a list of conservatives... Well, to be honest, that really doesn't tell me much I don't already know... Let's see, a bunch of conservatives are writing about what a liar Obama is. Yep, big news there. :thumbup:
All this and not one simple quote from Obama that has been proven or even officially reported to be lie. Not ONE.
For those who don't know... THIS is a quote...
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
George W. Bush
March 17, 2003
Intelligence that was never exposed, never supported by any proof and in fact DENIED by UN monitors AND the CIA in officially submitted reports. Not just a bunch of liberal papers.
Don't know what else to tell you... Black and white folks... Proove it or make me laugh even even more, because there is nothing funnier than a bunch of Bush appologists tripping over themselves to make a strawman out of Obama.
How did you miss the point of the youg lady and the old lady? The point is things are not what they seem to beat first glance. What Obama would portray is not what he is but what he wants everyone to think he is. Got it now?
Seriously? OK... Sorry, I *thought* that point was so obvious that I could be sarcastic about how childish it was.
sock puppets... Is that really the level of intellect here?
donc711 wrote:
How did you miss the point of the youg lady and the old lady? The point is things are not what they seem to beat first glance. What Obama would portray is not what he is but what he wants everyone to think he is. Got it now?
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Remember, Don. The Dark Side does not "do" logic, cannot deduct, cannot think outside the box. The article was a great one, good reading, and nothing in it did I find disturbing beyond we have a mad man in the White House. But having a mad man in the highest office in the land is OK with the Dark Side as long as it is THEIR mad man. They don't see his lies as lies because they share those lies. They see nothing disturbing because it
doesn't disturb THEM. America isn't up against
a man, but is up against
a movement older than either of us, a movement that for the most part was kept as secret as possible, a movement by American socialists/c*******ts who have all outed themselves with Obama's installation in the White House.
Hmm? Instead of us providing you with answers, to which I'm sure won't satify your incompetence, since it's been all over the media.
I will quote from a now famous press secretary Joe "Carnival" Carney concering Bush, "It was a long time ago"~!
Time for the Imperial President to take ownership, it's been "5" years already. Fluff~!
straightUp wrote:
Wow!
This is a brilliant example of how much fluff conservative papers kick up without any solid facts. Paragraphs of statements like...
"White House press corps yesterday raked Jay Carney over the coals over various lies and evasions, prompting Megyn Kelley of Fox News to quip, "What's happened?"
... yeah, what lies? Where are the details?
"disillusioned and angry liberals who are starting to grasp that they have been lied to, who realize that a skeptical stance is necessary when examining a narrative offered by team Obama on B******i or the IRS scandal"
... details? facts?
"Obama's just not behaving like the good guy they thought him to be. Awkward questions of character are being raised in their minds."
... what questions?
Then it goes into an example of how a picture can be seen in two different ways using that image of an old/young lady that we've all seen a million times that has NOTHING to do with Obama's supposed lies... but thanks for the art lesson.
Seriously, is this all they got?
Not only that but the conservatives didn't set a very good precedence with their crap about Obama not being born in the US. because Hawaii wasn't a state. Normal people we're all blown away by the ignorance of THAT assault (quick fact check - Obama born in 1961, Hawaii became a state in 1959) Hellooooo...?
And what gave me a special grin was this...
"...while among conservatives, as exemplified over the years at American Thinker, a decidedly more negative interpretation of the biographical facts emerged"
...yeah, American Thinker is exemplary conservative? Ya think?
Don't really see much thinking but OK.
Then it lists a bunch of general topics related to accusations of deciet authored by a list of conservatives... Well, to be honest, that really doesn't tell me much I don't already know... Let's see, a bunch of conservatives are writing about what a liar Obama is. Yep, big news there. :thumbup:
All this and not one simple quote from Obama that has been proven or even officially reported to be lie. Not ONE.
For those who don't know... THIS is a quote...
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
George W. Bush
March 17, 2003
Intelligence that was never exposed, never supported by any proof and in fact DENIED by UN monitors AND the CIA in officially submitted reports. Not just a bunch of liberal papers.
Don't know what else to tell you... Black and white folks... Proove it or make me laugh even even more, because there is nothing funnier than a bunch of Bush appologists tripping over themselves to make a strawman out of Obama.
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straightUp wrote:
Seriously? OK... Sorry, I *thought* that point was so obvious that I could be sarcastic about how childish it was.
sock puppets... Is that really the level of intellect here?
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Your comments tell us far more about you than I would think you would want known. You came here for ONE reason: attempt to discredit information that is getting out of hand for the Dark Side, Obama's coterie of tyrants. Too much is converging all at once for the oh-so-intelligent bums in the Administration to be able to handle, and lying merely adds to their problems because they can't coordinate all the lying adequately to fool thinking people. Don't know who hired you or if you are only one of the working serfs for the DNC, but you've been here one whole day, and I am tired of you already - we've known your type and it is pointless to even recognize your presence. You can look at a fact and blatantly refuse to accept it as fact. What would be our rationale for conversing with you?
Elloquently worded~!
It's always amazed me how some can simply blurt out "Fluff" as if this will prosletye individuals to believe their critique.
The very fact he was asking begs the question, "Does he really believe the hype"? Led to slaughter, like sheep~!
He cites "Bush"? I'd like to know what Obama would've done in the days of 911? Oh wait......I already know~! Campaign~Disorganizer in Chief
Tasine wrote:
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Your comments tell us far more about you than I would think you would want known. You came here for ONE reason: attempt to discredit information that is getting out of hand for the Dark Side, Obama's coterie of tyrants. Too much is converging all at once for the oh-so-intelligent bums in the Administration to be able to handle, and lying merely adds to their problems because they can't coordinate all the lying adequately to fool thinking people. Don't know who hired you or if you are only one of the working serfs for the DNC, but you've been here one whole day, and I am tired of you already - we've known your type and it is pointless to even recognize your presence. You can look at a fact and blatantly refuse to accept it as fact. What would be our rationale for conversing with you?
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chaneybl wrote:
Elloquently worded~!
It's always amazed me how some can simply blurt out "Fluff" as if this will prosletye individuals to believe their critique.
The very fact he was asking begs the question, "Does he really believe the hype"? Led to slaughter, like sheep~!
He cites "Bush"? I'd like to know what Obama would've done in the days of 911? Oh wait......I already know~! Campaign~Disorganizer in Chief
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Thanks, chaneybl. This person sounds half way intelligent, yet no thinking intelligent person falls into the Dark Side's traps. He has to be a DNC or Obama plant.
straightUp wrote:
Seriously? OK... Sorry, I *thought* that point was so obvious that I could be sarcastic about how childish it was.
sock puppets... Is that really the level of intellect here?
Give it a rest straightup take your obama liberal propoganda someplace else..You are just a talking head like the rest of the scripted socialists..Obama needs to be made an example of so that the next one that comes along knows not to cross the constitutional line..Take your crap someplace else straightup
Well, I don't know what to say... I'm not towing liberal propoganda, I was just asking for a single case where an actual documented quote from Obama was officially discredited. I thought you guys would be the place to go, but I'm suprised (and dumbfounded) to find that all you guys have are these long lists of complaints about his lying but no actual examples of it happening.
I even told Tasmin to stop sending these stupid lists and focus instead on one or two cases with actual proof and what I got back was another long list. Look, I can get those lists fro any of the hundreds of conservative BS factories just like I can get the same kind of mindless lists about Bush lies from the liberal BS factories and quite frankly I don't see any difference between either side. BS is BS.
Do I need to take the time to do the work for you? I really thought that with you people foaming at the mouth about what a liar he is I could just get the info from you. I didn't realize how insubstantial your data is.
Now I'm getting hostile reactions from you folks. Does it really piss you off that much when you run into someone who simply wants to see some proof?
Did I ever say Obama isn't lying? No. I never said that. So I'm not arguing with you. I JUST want to see some proof!
IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?
So... I'm going to make an attempt to find such a case on my own because I don't think it should be that difficult and when/if I find solid proof that he has lied (about anything worth getting your panties in a knot over) I will report it so you can see how it's done.
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