Refusing To Get V******ted...Call It Tribalism, Partisanship, Conservative Values, Wh**ever...It's Deadly Ignorance (Page 31): That is a character in your fairy tale.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

keepuphope wrote:

Twist not the scriptures lest you be like satan.

That is a character in your fairy tale.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

RascalRiley wrote:

Yes I do. You can not be a Christian if you h**e people who have different ideas than you do.

America was not supposed to be a Christian country. The originals were trying to escape religious persecution. It was supposed to separate church and state.
That did not last and a particular god got introduced and now all other religions are wrong.
We are witnessing another demise of a nation because some wanted to to force their will on the majority

I know no Christians who h**e anyone, whether they have different ideas or not. God Himself does not h**e anyone, He does not condemn the sinner, He condemns the sin.

America was not established as a theocracy for very good reasons, however, you will find it impossible to separate the Christian faith of our founders from their work to create a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" in which the government governs by the consent of the people.

keepuphope Loc: Idaho

4430 wrote:

One can love everyone but not agree with their sins and thus are not hating them.

Pastors preaching God's judgment on people's sins is not preaching h**e.

They are preaching God's good news if they repent and turn from their wicked ways he will forgive them.

You should know that if you were really interested in walking with and serving Christ, but I don't get that from your post.

Actually, Christians are to love the Sinner but h**es the SINS just as God does.

That's Christ Jesus's message in a nut shell.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Blade_Runner wrote:

I know no Christians who h**e anyone, whether they have different ideas or not. God Himself does not h**e anyone, He does not condemn the sinner, He condemns the sin.

America was not established as a theocracy for very good reasons, however, you will find it impossible to separate the Christian faith of our founders from their work to create a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" in which the government governs by the consent of the people.

What is called Christianity today bears no resemblance to what Christ taught.
Prosperity Gospel is anti Jesus, h**e gays is anti Jesus, control of woman’s bodies is anti Jesus. You get the idea?

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

4430 wrote:

One can love everyone but not agree with their sins and thus are not hating them.

Pastors preaching God's judgment on people's sins is not preaching h**e.

They are preaching God's good news if they repent and turn from their wicked ways he will forgive them.

You should know that if you were really interested in walking with and serving Christ, but I don't get that from your post.

Actually, Christians are to love the Sinner but h**es the SINS just as God does.

There is a lot of h**e coming at the left from the right on this site.
Seems if someone is deemed a sinner they are outcast.
That is not my makers way.
I am ancient hippy

The Ms.

Blade_Runner wrote:

Apart from the 10 Commandments given directly to h... (show quote)

Thank YOU Blade!!!!!! For a moment I thought I let those Nuns down and they all are with God..... so they would get me.....! As to the loving the neighbor thing , my little Rascal is totally off point. Help because I have no idea of what he is getting at! Thanks for the assistance 🙏🙏🙏

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

RascalRiley wrote:

What is called Christianity today bears no resemblance to what Christ taught.
Prosperity Gospel is anti Jesus, h**e gays is anti Jesus, control of woman’s bodies is anti Jesus. You get the idea?

Without knowing it, you are referring to the social justice warriors of Postmodern Christianity.

Post-modern Christianity is just as difficult to lock down in a concise definition as post-modernism itself. What started in the 1950s in architecture as a reaction to modernist thought and style was soon adopted by the art and literary world in the 1970s and 1980s. The Church didn’t really feel this effect until the 1990s. This reaction was a dissolution of "cold, hard fact" in favor of "warm, fuzzy subjectivity." Think of anything considered post-modern, then stick Christianity into that context and you have a glimpse of what post-modern Christianity is.

Post-modern Christianity falls into line with basic post-modernist thinking. It is about experience over reason, subjectivity over objectivity, spirituality over religion, images over words, outward over inward. Are these things good? Sure. Are these things bad? Sure. It all depends on how far from biblical t***h each reaction against modernity takes one’s faith. This, of course, is up to each believer. However, when groups form under such thinking, theology and doctrine tend to lean more towards liberalism.

For example, because experience is valued more highly than reason, t***h becomes relative. This opens up all kinds of problems, as this lessens the standard that the Bible contains absolute t***h, and even disqualifies biblical t***h as being absolute in many cases. If the Bible is not our source for absolute t***h, and personal experience is allowed to define and interpret what t***h actually is, a saving faith in Jesus Christ is rendered meaningless.

There will always be "paradigm shifts" in thinking as long as mankind inhabits this present earth, because mankind constantly seeks to better itself in knowledge and stature. Challenges to our way of thinking are good, as they cause us to grow, to learn, and to understand. This is the principle of Romans 12:2 at work, of our minds being t***sformed. Yet, we need to be ever mindful of Acts 17:11 and be like the Bereans, weighing every new teaching, every new thought, against Scripture. We don’t let our experiences interpret Scripture for us, but as we change and conform ourselves to Christ, we interpret our experiences according to Scripture. Unfortunately, this is not what is happening in circles espousing post-modern Christianity.

BTW, if women are in control of their own bodies, why are they contracting venereal diseases and having unwanted pregnancies?

The Ms.

Blade_Runner wrote:

Without knowing it, you are referring to the social justice warriors of Postmodern Christianity.

Post-modern Christianity is just as difficult to lock down in a concise definition as post-modernism itself. What started in the 1950s in architecture as a reaction to modernist thought and style was soon adopted by the art and literary world in the 1970s and 1980s. The Church didn’t really feel this effect until the 1990s. This reaction was a dissolution of "cold, hard fact" in favor of "warm, fuzzy subjectivity." Think of anything considered post-modern, then stick Christianity into that context and you have a glimpse of what post-modern Christianity is.

Post-modern Christianity falls into line with basic post-modernist thinking. It is about experience over reason, subjectivity over objectivity, spirituality over religion, images over words, outward over inward. Are these things good? Sure. Are these things bad? Sure. It all depends on how far from biblical t***h each reaction against modernity takes one’s faith. This, of course, is up to each believer. However, when groups form under such thinking, theology and doctrine tend to lean more towards liberalism.

For example, because experience is valued more highly than reason, t***h becomes relative. This opens up all kinds of problems, as this lessens the standard that the Bible contains absolute t***h, and even disqualifies biblical t***h as being absolute in many cases. If the Bible is not our source for absolute t***h, and personal experience is allowed to define and interpret what t***h actually is, a saving faith in Jesus Christ is rendered meaningless.

There will always be "paradigm shifts" in thinking as long as mankind inhabits this present earth, because mankind constantly seeks to better itself in knowledge and stature. Challenges to our way of thinking are good, as they cause us to grow, to learn, and to understand. This is the principle of Romans 12:2 at work, of our minds being t***sformed. Yet, we need to be ever mindful of Acts 17:11 and be like the Bereans, weighing every new teaching, every new thought, against Scripture. We don’t let our experiences interpret Scripture for us, but as we change and conform ourselves to Christ, we interpret our experiences according to Scripture. Unfortunately, this is not what is happening in circles espousing post-modern Christianity.

BTW, if women are in control of their own bodies, why are they contracting venereal diseases and having unwanted pregnancies?

Without knowing it, you are referring to the socia... (show quote)

Blade, boy did you nail it!!!! Where is all this ..... never heard any of this but explains a lot. I do not believe in organized religion but I do know GOD. Any reference material would be greatly appreciated!

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Blade_Runner wrote:

I know no Christians who h**e anyone, whether they have different ideas or not. God Himself does not h**e anyone, He does not condemn the sinner, He condemns the sin.

America was not established as a theocracy for very good reasons, however, you will find it impossible to separate the Christian faith of our founders from their work to create a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" in which the government governs by the consent of the people.

You lost me and I read no further than

“I know no Christians who h**e anyone”.

You have never seen a card carrying Christian express h**e for a gay person.

America’s Christians have been taught to h**e.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

The Ms. wrote:

And it wasn’t Jesus’ Commandment.... was from God to Moses.... just one of those fine points!

We need to discuss this because I would not want to tarnish my reputation any more than I have

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

RascalRiley wrote:

You lost me and I read no further than

“I know no Christians who h**e anyone”.

You have never seen a card carrying Christian express h**e for a gay person.

America’s Christians have been taught to h**e.

The Ms.

RascalRiley wrote:

We need to discuss this because I would not want to tarnish my reputation any more than I have

I think what is going on is how different people define words!!!! This type of discussion is difficult to do in short posts. I am not picking up anything sinister from you.... think your statements were honest. This is how we should be discussing our different perspectives..... no one is tarnished!

woodguru

RascalRiley wrote:

“I know no Christians who h**e anyone”.

You have never seen a card carrying Christian express h**e for a gay person.

America’s Christians have been taught to h**e.

Real americans, real patriots, real men...are f**e everything, they listen to f**e news and rhetoric (and believe it), and they are the nastiest most h**eful christians on the planet...they are alt christians that are as f**e as everything about the trump cult culture

The Ms.

woodguru wrote:

Real americans, real patriots, real men...are f**e everything, they listen to f**e news and rhetoric (and believe it), and they are the nastiest most h**eful christians on the planet...they are alt christians that are as f**e as everything about the trump cult culture

Woody,
And you know this How..... CNN, MSNBC???? You should pretty belligerent and h**eful yourself.... Projecting.... Gaslighting.... currently the new Epidemic.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

RascalRiley wrote:

You lost me and I read no further than

“I know no Christians who h**e anyone”.

You have never seen a card carrying Christian express h**e for a gay person.

America’s Christians have been taught to h**e.

Christians are not members of a political party, they don't carry cards.

And no, I do not know, or know of, any Christians who express h**e for homosexuals. However, I do know and know of Christians who express God's condemnation of homosexuality. If God sees gay sex as an a*********n, then who are we to challenge Him?