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Sep 2, 2014 11:20:31   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
It never seems to end . Does it?

Polar Ice Cap Expanding – Gore’s Dire G****l W*****g Predictions Fail to Materialize

In a development that has drawn shock from g****l w*****g cultists and hearty laughs from those who have seen the h**x for what it is, new evidence confirms that the Arctic ice cap has grown at least 43% since 2012. Depending on where you measure the ice, it has grown as much as 63%.

To put this development in context, it’s important to remember the 2007 warnings from C*****e C****e Poobah Al Gore: “The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years.” Well, Gore’s seven years have come and gone and we certainly haven’t enacted the insane carbon reduction measures he recommends. Yet his dire predictions have not only failed to come true, but the very opposite has occurred. The ice cap is thriving, providing a living demonstration of the folly of climate prediction science.

As The Daily Mail puts it in their feature, “An area the size of Alaska, America’s biggest state, was open water two years ago, but is again now covered by ice.”

The good news about the ice cap extends beyond the expansion. Experts in climate satellite monitoring insist that recent measurements show a significant recovery of the cap’s thickness as well. This is important because thicker ice will be much more resistant to future melting.

It’s crucial to remember that private citizen Gore was not the only one ringing the alarm bells. Our current Secretary of State, John Kerry, has gone on record several times with the same kinds of predictions. These predictions aren’t just made with the desire to change hearts and minds. They aren’t just part of a crusade to get businesses to voluntarily reduce emissions. If that’s all they were, they could be dismissed with a laugh.

Unfortunately, they continue to be positioned as bedrocks upon which legislation can be created. This legislation has a damning effect on job growth, hurts American business, and costs the taxpayers untold millions. If the threat of g****l w*****g was a real one, and if factories and coal miners and electric cars could do anything about it, and if people like Gore were only trying to influence private policy, it would be one thing. But what we have now is a great deal of government overreach, bad policy, and wasted tax money going towards solving a problem that – according to the latest measurements – simply doesn’t exist.

The world is indeed on a extraordinarily slow, extraordinarily minute trend towards warming. Scientists from across several disciplines are in consensus about this. But the dire predictions about changing sea currents, melting Arctic ice, and coastal cities sinking beneath the ocean have about as much to do with science as a modern-day Shark Week documentary. The premise that humans have anything to do with it is still hotly debated in the scientific community, a fact commonly glossed over by the mainstream media.

We’ll see how much coverage the growing Arctic ice gets and how it’s presented. It should be interesting how Gore and the rest of the tree-huggers twist the science, once again, to fit their narrative

T***H IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!

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Sep 2, 2014 11:36:15   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
What We Have Here Is An Agenda Driven False Science
Based On Results Of Computer Models
That Were Programmed With Ideology
Instead Of Actual Climate Readings Data

The NOAA Has Been Doing It For Years

I've Posted The Link To The Facts Before
So Now Do It Yourselves

'NOAA/gov' Is A Good Place To Start

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Sep 2, 2014 11:41:22   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
jimahrens wrote:
It never seems to end . Does it?

Polar Ice Cap Expanding – Gore’s Dire G****l W*****g Predictions Fail to Materialize

In a development that has drawn shock from g****l w*****g cultists and hearty laughs from those who have seen the h**x for what it is, new evidence confirms that the Arctic ice cap has grown at least 43% since 2012. Depending on where you measure the ice, it has grown as much as 63%.

To put this development in context, it’s important to remember the 2007 warnings from C*****e C****e Poobah Al Gore: “The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years.” Well, Gore’s seven years have come and gone and we certainly haven’t enacted the insane carbon reduction measures he recommends. Yet his dire predictions have not only failed to come true, but the very opposite has occurred. The ice cap is thriving, providing a living demonstration of the folly of climate prediction science.

As The Daily Mail puts it in their feature, “An area the size of Alaska, America’s biggest state, was open water two years ago, but is again now covered by ice.”

The good news about the ice cap extends beyond the expansion. Experts in climate satellite monitoring insist that recent measurements show a significant recovery of the cap’s thickness as well. This is important because thicker ice will be much more resistant to future melting.

It’s crucial to remember that private citizen Gore was not the only one ringing the alarm bells. Our current Secretary of State, John Kerry, has gone on record several times with the same kinds of predictions. These predictions aren’t just made with the desire to change hearts and minds. They aren’t just part of a crusade to get businesses to voluntarily reduce emissions. If that’s all they were, they could be dismissed with a laugh.

Unfortunately, they continue to be positioned as bedrocks upon which legislation can be created. This legislation has a damning effect on job growth, hurts American business, and costs the taxpayers untold millions. If the threat of g****l w*****g was a real one, and if factories and coal miners and electric cars could do anything about it, and if people like Gore were only trying to influence private policy, it would be one thing. But what we have now is a great deal of government overreach, bad policy, and wasted tax money going towards solving a problem that – according to the latest measurements – simply doesn’t exist.

The world is indeed on a extraordinarily slow, extraordinarily minute trend towards warming. Scientists from across several disciplines are in consensus about this. But the dire predictions about changing sea currents, melting Arctic ice, and coastal cities sinking beneath the ocean have about as much to do with science as a modern-day Shark Week documentary. The premise that humans have anything to do with it is still hotly debated in the scientific community, a fact commonly glossed over by the mainstream media.

We’ll see how much coverage the growing Arctic ice gets and how it’s presented. It should be interesting how Gore and the rest of the tree-huggers twist the science, once again, to fit their narrative

T***H IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
It never seems to end . Does it? br br Polar Ice ... (show quote)


Excellent post. I'm still amazed at how ignorant and incapable some think the average person is. They quote only the parts of science that seem to support their positions and think no one can research and become aware of the big picture.

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Sep 2, 2014 11:41:26   #
funguy1949
 
never ever trust politicans that have others with their hands in their pockets,especialy the liberals pockets/Ya I know all politicans are liers but for the hole liberal party to jump on the band wagon at the same time,food for thought.If a liberals lips are moving their lieing.

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Sep 2, 2014 12:50:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you for the post. I am concerned that the ice cap is growing at such a rate. We have heard so much about g****l w*****g, how it will affect life. Few are really looking at the consequences of a mini ice age. Yes, this is an event that is comes in cycles, just as most thing that happen to our Earth. “The MSM do not consider the coming of the new ice age to be news,” says Argiris. “In the Netherlands we were not informed about the spring snow storms in the USA, but every little heat wave that happens gets a lot of attention because it “proves” the earth is warming (while it is actually cooling).

For a few years now, the sun has gone into a calm that affected our weather last year and if it continues, what we saw then is only the beginning. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and c****al mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.

“I’ve never seen anything quite like this," Dr. Richard Harrison, head of space physics at Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in England, told the BBC. "If you want to go back to see when the sun was this inactive in terms of the minimum we’ve just had and the peak that we have now, you’ve got to go back about 100 years.”

Now, being in a "solar lull" does not mean the sun is completely dormant.

"The sun is most definitely not 'asleep,'" Dr. C. Alex Young, solar astrophysicist and associate science director in the Heliophysics Science Division of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, told The Huffington Post in an email. In fact, on January 7th, 2014, NASA observed a massive solar flare burst from a sunspot group measured to be "some seven Earth's across."

But a relatively quiet sun could cause problems. Some scientists say that this period of weak solar activity may mirror what happened before the so-called Maunder Minimum of 1645 to 1715 -- a period named after solar astronomers Annie and E. Walter Maunder, who studied sunspots and helped identify the sun's strange activity in the latter part of the 17th Century. That time period saw only 30 sunspots (one one-thousandth of what would be expected) and coincided with a "Little Ice Age" in Europe, during which the Thames River and the Baltic Sea froze over.

Mike Lockwood, professor of space environment physics at the University of Reading in the U.K., estimated that we have up to a one-in-five chance of being in Maunder Minimum conditions 40 years from now.

A mini ice age will cause devastation across the planet. Just look at the 1800 mini ice age.

http://www.eh-resources.org/timeline/timeline_lia.html

jimahrens wrote:
It never seems to end . Does it?

Polar Ice Cap Expanding – Gore’s Dire G****l W*****g Predictions Fail to Materialize

In a development that has drawn shock from g****l w*****g cultists and hearty laughs from those who have seen the h**x for what it is, new evidence confirms that the Arctic ice cap has grown at least 43% since 2012. Depending on where you measure the ice, it has grown as much as 63%.

To put this development in context, it’s important to remember the 2007 warnings from C*****e C****e Poobah Al Gore: “The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years.” Well, Gore’s seven years have come and gone and we certainly haven’t enacted the insane carbon reduction measures he recommends. Yet his dire predictions have not only failed to come true, but the very opposite has occurred. The ice cap is thriving, providing a living demonstration of the folly of climate prediction science.

As The Daily Mail puts it in their feature, “An area the size of Alaska, America’s biggest state, was open water two years ago, but is again now covered by ice.”

The good news about the ice cap extends beyond the expansion. Experts in climate satellite monitoring insist that recent measurements show a significant recovery of the cap’s thickness as well. This is important because thicker ice will be much more resistant to future melting.

It’s crucial to remember that private citizen Gore was not the only one ringing the alarm bells. Our current Secretary of State, John Kerry, has gone on record several times with the same kinds of predictions. These predictions aren’t just made with the desire to change hearts and minds. They aren’t just part of a crusade to get businesses to voluntarily reduce emissions. If that’s all they were, they could be dismissed with a laugh.

Unfortunately, they continue to be positioned as bedrocks upon which legislation can be created. This legislation has a damning effect on job growth, hurts American business, and costs the taxpayers untold millions. If the threat of g****l w*****g was a real one, and if factories and coal miners and electric cars could do anything about it, and if people like Gore were only trying to influence private policy, it would be one thing. But what we have now is a great deal of government overreach, bad policy, and wasted tax money going towards solving a problem that – according to the latest measurements – simply doesn’t exist.

The world is indeed on a extraordinarily slow, extraordinarily minute trend towards warming. Scientists from across several disciplines are in consensus about this. But the dire predictions about changing sea currents, melting Arctic ice, and coastal cities sinking beneath the ocean have about as much to do with science as a modern-day Shark Week documentary. The premise that humans have anything to do with it is still hotly debated in the scientific community, a fact commonly glossed over by the mainstream media.

We’ll see how much coverage the growing Arctic ice gets and how it’s presented. It should be interesting how Gore and the rest of the tree-huggers twist the science, once again, to fit their narrative

T***H IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
It never seems to end . Does it? br br Polar Ice ... (show quote)

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Sep 2, 2014 13:31:58   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Excellent post. I'm still amazed at how ignorant and incapable some think the average person is. They quote only the parts of science that seem to support their positions and think no one can research and become aware of the big picture.


:thumbup:

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Sep 2, 2014 15:14:07   #
funguy1949
 
ginnyt wrote:
Thank you for the post. I am concerned that the ice cap is growing at such a rate. We have heard so much about g****l w*****g, how it will affect life. Few are really looking at the consequences of a mini ice age. Yes, this is an event that is comes in cycles, just as most thing that happen to our Earth. “The MSM do not consider the coming of the new ice age to be news,” says Argiris. “In the Netherlands we were not informed about the spring snow storms in the USA, but every little heat wave that happens gets a lot of attention because it “proves” the earth is warming (while it is actually cooling).

For a few years now, the sun has gone into a calm that affected our weather last year and if it continues, what we saw then is only the beginning. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and c****al mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.

“I’ve never seen anything quite like this," Dr. Richard Harrison, head of space physics at Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in England, told the BBC. "If you want to go back to see when the sun was this inactive in terms of the minimum we’ve just had and the peak that we have now, you’ve got to go back about 100 years.”

Now, being in a "solar lull" does not mean the sun is completely dormant.

"The sun is most definitely not 'asleep,'" Dr. C. Alex Young, solar astrophysicist and associate science director in the Heliophysics Science Division of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, told The Huffington Post in an email. In fact, on January 7th, 2014, NASA observed a massive solar flare burst from a sunspot group measured to be "some seven Earth's across."

But a relatively quiet sun could cause problems. Some scientists say that this period of weak solar activity may mirror what happened before the so-called Maunder Minimum of 1645 to 1715 -- a period named after solar astronomers Annie and E. Walter Maunder, who studied sunspots and helped identify the sun's strange activity in the latter part of the 17th Century. That time period saw only 30 sunspots (one one-thousandth of what would be expected) and coincided with a "Little Ice Age" in Europe, during which the Thames River and the Baltic Sea froze over.

Mike Lockwood, professor of space environment physics at the University of Reading in the U.K., estimated that we have up to a one-in-five chance of being in Maunder Minimum conditions 40 years from now.

A mini ice age will cause devastation across the planet. Just look at the 1800 mini ice age.

http://www.eh-resources.org/timeline/timeline_lia.html
Thank you for the post. I am concerned that the i... (show quote)


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Sep 2, 2014 18:57:52   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
jimahrens wrote:
It never seems to end . Does it?

Polar Ice Cap Expanding – Gore’s Dire G****l W*****g Predictions Fail to Materialize

In a development that has drawn shock from g****l w*****g cultists and hearty laughs from those who have seen the h**x for what it is, new evidence confirms that the Arctic ice cap has grown at least 43% since 2012. Depending on where you measure the ice, it has grown as much as 63%.

To put this development in context, it’s important to remember the 2007 warnings from C*****e C****e Poobah Al Gore: “The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff. It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years.” Well, Gore’s seven years have come and gone and we certainly haven’t enacted the insane carbon reduction measures he recommends. Yet his dire predictions have not only failed to come true, but the very opposite has occurred. The ice cap is thriving, providing a living demonstration of the folly of climate prediction science.

As The Daily Mail puts it in their feature, “An area the size of Alaska, America’s biggest state, was open water two years ago, but is again now covered by ice.”

The good news about the ice cap extends beyond the expansion. Experts in climate satellite monitoring insist that recent measurements show a significant recovery of the cap’s thickness as well. This is important because thicker ice will be much more resistant to future melting.

It’s crucial to remember that private citizen Gore was not the only one ringing the alarm bells. Our current Secretary of State, John Kerry, has gone on record several times with the same kinds of predictions. These predictions aren’t just made with the desire to change hearts and minds. They aren’t just part of a crusade to get businesses to voluntarily reduce emissions. If that’s all they were, they could be dismissed with a laugh.

Unfortunately, they continue to be positioned as bedrocks upon which legislation can be created. This legislation has a damning effect on job growth, hurts American business, and costs the taxpayers untold millions. If the threat of g****l w*****g was a real one, and if factories and coal miners and electric cars could do anything about it, and if people like Gore were only trying to influence private policy, it would be one thing. But what we have now is a great deal of government overreach, bad policy, and wasted tax money going towards solving a problem that – according to the latest measurements – simply doesn’t exist.

The world is indeed on a extraordinarily slow, extraordinarily minute trend towards warming. Scientists from across several disciplines are in consensus about this. But the dire predictions about changing sea currents, melting Arctic ice, and coastal cities sinking beneath the ocean have about as much to do with science as a modern-day Shark Week documentary. The premise that humans have anything to do with it is still hotly debated in the scientific community, a fact commonly glossed over by the mainstream media.

We’ll see how much coverage the growing Arctic ice gets and how it’s presented. It should be interesting how Gore and the rest of the tree-huggers twist the science, once again, to fit their narrative

T***H IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
It never seems to end . Does it? br br Polar Ice ... (show quote)


You know what would be great?
Any post like this that actually cites scientific data.

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Sep 3, 2014 15:26:22   #
Floyd Hale
 
As they say T***H alway wins in the end !!!!!

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Sep 3, 2014 16:30:25   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
You know what would be great?
Any post like this that actually cites scientific data.


If you are on this forum, you have internet. If you have internet, you have google. Google "current polar ice cap volume measurements".

You will be given all the scientific documentation you can absorb. From satellite view measurements to seismic ice thickness measurements. You will find that the scientists are now worried about a mini ice age coming within 40 years.

Gore was/is a fraud and all who buy into his spew are too lazy to crack a book or go online for an hour and study the geological history of this planet relevant to heat/cold cycle. The fact is that man's impact upon our world is somewhat analogous to a flea crawling up an elephanr's back with rape on its mind.

The w*****r p*****ns are cyclic on varying time tables and they will continue regardless of opinion.

Once you have taken the time to learn about this instead of repeating what you are being fed.....you might ask "how can the people who yelled gobal warming, be the same ones now yelling ...ice age coming"? Because there is money on either side to be made......and lazy gullible people with money.

As for Gore.....do you also believe he invented the internet?

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Sep 3, 2014 16:32:36   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Docadhoc wrote:
If you are on this forum, you have internet. If you have internet, you have google. Google "current polar ice cap volume measurements".

You will be given all the scientific documentation you can absorb. From satellite view measurements to seismic ice thickness measurements. You will find that the scientists are now worried about a mini ice age coming within 40 years.

Gore was/is a fraud and all who buy into his spew are too lazy to crack a book or go online for an hour and study the geological history of this planet relevant to heat/cold cycle. The fact is that man's impact upon our world is somewhat analogous to a flea crawling up an elephanr's back with rape on its mind.

The w*****r p*****ns are cyclic on varying time tables and they will continue regardless of opinion.

Once you have taken the time to learn about this instead of repeating what you are being fed.....you might ask "how can the people who yelled gobal warming, be the same ones now yelling ...ice age coming"? Because there is money on either side to be made......and lazy gullible people with money.

As for Gore.....do you also believe he invented the internet?
If you are on this forum, you have internet. If... (show quote)


You obviously do not understand how the burden of proof works..

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Sep 3, 2014 16:32:36   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Docadhoc wrote:
If you are on this forum, you have internet. If you have internet, you have google. Google "current polar ice cap volume measurements".

You will be given all the scientific documentation you can absorb. From satellite view measurements to seismic ice thickness measurements. You will find that the scientists are now worried about a mini ice age coming within 40 years.

Gore was/is a fraud and all who buy into his spew are too lazy to crack a book or go online for an hour and study the geological history of this planet relevant to heat/cold cycle. The fact is that man's impact upon our world is somewhat analogous to a flea crawling up an elephanr's back with rape on its mind.

The w*****r p*****ns are cyclic on varying time tables and they will continue regardless of opinion.

Once you have taken the time to learn about this instead of repeating what you are being fed.....you might ask "how can the people who yelled gobal warming, be the same ones now yelling ...ice age coming"? Because there is money on either side to be made......and lazy gullible people with money.

As for Gore.....do you also believe he invented the internet?
If you are on this forum, you have internet. If... (show quote)


You obviously do not understand how the burden of proof works..

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Sep 3, 2014 19:20:02   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Socialist Batman wrote:
You obviously do not understand how the burden of proof works..


Of course I do. I am a researcher. You obviously do not know how to read. The internet is full of data research, methodology, results, who, when, etc that now shows the earth is in a cooling cycle, that it may be premature, and that there is some worry about it.


If you are just going to repeat things that support what you want to believe...regardless of how outdated that information is...at least be honest about it.

The earth is a homeostatic organism. It tends to shift only so far in one direction before correcting back the other direction. Always shifting. Never remaining static for long. Basic science you could be aware of if you wern't so lazy as to listen to Gore et al instead of keeping current your self. I have a great great nephew who is in 4th grade. He is more current about this than you. Sad.....

You talk about burden of t***h. Do you know what that means? Let me explain something for you:

There are more than 1.000 geometeoroligists that were surveyed asking about g****l w*****g. Far less than 10% of them said they agreed with Gore. More than 90% disagreed and said there was no data supporting Gore's position. Interesting that the majority of the less than the 10% who agreed with Gore received fundng from him. 90+% said no. Bud, .....that meets burden of proof but don't take my word for it. You can google as well as I.......maybe.

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Sep 3, 2014 19:22:30   #
Socialist Batman Loc: Murica
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Of course I do. I am a researcher. You obviously do not know how to read. The internet is full of data research, methodology, results, who, when, etc that now shows the earth is in a cooling cycle, that it may be premature, and that there is some worry about it.


If you are just going to repeat things that support what you want to believe...regardless of how outdated that information is...at least be honest about it.

The earth is a homeostatic organism. It tends to shift only so far in one direction before correcting back the other direction. Always shifting. Never remaining static for long. Basic science you could be aware of if you wern't so lazy as to listen to Gore et al instead of keeping current your self. I have a great great nephew who is in 4th grade. He is more current about this than you. Sad.....

You talk about burden of t***h. Do you know what that means? Let me explain something for you:

There are more than 1.000 geometeoroligists that were surveyed asking about g****l w*****g. Far less than 10% of them said they agreed with Gore. More than 90% disagreed and said there was no data supporting Gore's position. Interesting that the majority of the less than the 10% who agreed with Gore received fundng from him. 90+% said no. Bud, .....that meets burden of proof but don't take my word for it. You can google as well as I.......maybe.
Of course I do. I am a researcher. You obviousl... (show quote)


You can't make a positive claim with no evidence presented then cite the internet as evidence..

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Sep 3, 2014 19:24:55   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
What a great response!

Docadhoc wrote:
Of course I do. I am a researcher. You obviously do not know how to read. The internet is full of data research, methodology, results, who, when, etc that now shows the earth is in a cooling cycle, that it may be premature, and that there is some worry about it.


If you are just going to repeat things that support what you want to believe...regardless of how outdated that information is...at least be honest about it.

The earth is a homeostatic organism. It tends to shift only so far in one direction before correcting back the other direction. Always shifting. Never remaining static for long. Basic science you could be aware of if you wern't so lazy as to listen to Gore et al instead of keeping current your self. I have a great great nephew who is in 4th grade. He is more current about this than you. Sad.....

You talk about burden of t***h. Do you know what that means? Let me explain something for you:

There are more than 1.000 geometeoroligists that were surveyed asking about g****l w*****g. Far less than 10% of them said they agreed with Gore. More than 90% disagreed and said there was no data supporting Gore's position. Interesting that the majority of the less than the 10% who agreed with Gore received fundng from him. 90+% said no. Bud, .....that meets burden of proof but don't take my word for it. You can google as well as I.......maybe.
Of course I do. I am a researcher. You obviousl... (show quote)

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