Caboose Loc: South Carolina

1. Do you believe public employee unions have been a constructive force in American society or a destructive one? If the latter, do you acknowledge the relationship between public employee unions and the Democratic party/agenda, and how do you feel about that? If you believe they’ve been a constructive force in American society, could you elaborate?

2. Are you for MORE government in American lives or LESS government? The confusion lies in the left’s pretty consistent opposition to things like school choice and health care freedom, but pretty consistent support for things like a******n rights and gay marriage. Should we want more government for some things and less for others, and if so, how do you draw those lines?

3. Would you consider the “war on poverty” of the last fifty years to have been a success? If so, by what basis do you see it as such? If not, what do you think was done wrongly and by what basis do you think even greater federal government intervention would succeed in defeating poverty?
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lbj-poverty-9a3a8c15ab501e11fffbd54a0979fed15a802aa7-s6-c30.jpg

4. Do you like big money in politics or dislike it? If you dislike it, do you believe it should be demonized when the last name is Soros and Steyer or only Koch? At what economic point does a person lose his or her right to participate in e******ns, and regardless of what that point is, do you believe it applies to both parties or just one?

5. Does the economy function better with greater regulation or less regulation? If the former, can you think of an industry or company or product or innovation that has thrived with more regulation? If the latter, do you believe the current Democratic Party is committed to freer markets or more restrictive markets? Which one is better for middle class people?

themadblacksmith

1. Unions-the people who brought you the weekend. And the right to be treated like a person, to some extent, instead of a disposable commodity. Before Unions, if you were crippled on the job, you got the boot and that was that. The *purpose* of public employees' unions is to protect teachers and cops etc from political pressure. Do they sometimes protect incompetent teachers and brutal cops? Probably. But would you rather have all public employees subject to the whims of politicians?
2. Personally-not speaking for anyone else- I think the Govt should ride herd on *those who can do great harm to the economy or the people* , such as the big banks and the big ag-chemical companies. And it should leave the rest of us alone. it is sort of like, you probably don't care about drunken or half-blind *bicyclists*; they are no real danger to anyone but themselves. Drunks or incompetents behind the wheel of *18 wheeler fuel trucks* are something else, right?
3. There would be a lot less poverty if the good manufacturing jobs hadn't been exported to Chinese s***e labor camps-by those good Republican CEO's. And remember that when they exported airplane building and computer building jobs, they exported technology critical to our national security
4. if they forbade the Koch and Soros types from giving $10,000,000 for anoymous attack ads, the Kochs and Soros would *still* have exactly as much ability to engage in political discourse as you or I do. They could still join 1PP, have a blog, write letters to the editor, call talk shows, write their Congress critters, give $2000 to any candidate they favored, etc. How is that unfair? Suppose you were standing on the Mall speaking against same sex marriage. And a pro-same-sex-marriage speaker was allowed to use a 200-decibel Diesel powered loudspeaker but you weren't. Is that fair?
5. See #2.


uote=Caboose]1. Do you believe public employee unions have been a constructive force in American society or a destructive one? If the latter, do you acknowledge the relationship between public employee unions and the Democratic party/agenda, and how do you feel about that? If you believe they’ve been a constructive force in American society, could you elaborate?

2. Are you for MORE government in American lives or LESS government? The confusion lies in the left’s pretty consistent opposition to things like school choice and health care freedom, but pretty consistent support for things like a******n rights and gay marriage. Should we want more government for some things and less for others, and if so, how do you draw those lines?

3. Would you consider the “war on poverty” of the last fifty years to have been a success? If so, by what basis do you see it as such? If not, what do you think was done wrongly and by what basis do you think even greater federal government intervention would succeed in defeating poverty?
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lbj-poverty-9a3a8c15ab501e11fffbd54a0979fed15a802aa7-s6-c30.jpg

4. Do you like big money in politics or dislike it? If you dislike it, do you believe it should be demonized when the last name is Soros and Steyer or only Koch? At what economic point does a person lose his or her right to participate in e******ns, and regardless of what that point is, do you believe it applies to both parties or just one?

5. Does the economy function better with greater regulation or less regulation? If the former, can you think of an industry or company or product or innovation that has thrived with more regulation? If the latter, do you believe the current Democratic Party is committed to freer markets or more restrictive markets? Which one is better for middle class people?[/quote]

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

[/quote]

Question number 1 was about public employee unions and you came back with just general union crap without one word about those of the public group. Left leaners are so unable to distinguish between public employees and other employees. Why is that?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

[/quote]

Good post, beat what I would say all to h***.... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Yep, public employee unions are a scourge. They fight for more money and less work, like they worked in the first place. But then, they do give a lot of money to politicians, who ALSO want more money for less work. Politicians have them beat though, they get paid - for NOT working - apparently.

Money in politics makes a joke of the Republic. We get to v**e, but we're told who we get to v**e FOR. Not to mention, that the last bastion of civil liberties, the Supreme Court, has sold us out to mega money.

As to regulation, common sense regulation would be good, but common sense has left the capitol building long since. What is known as "red tape" has become an extortion racket. If you have enough money to get the attention of the right people, your "red tape" gets sliced through.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I think the teachers' union of Wisconsin proved a bit too much of what you say. I left the NEA in 1976 when they paid a whopping sum, at least back then, to Jimmy Carter top get a cabinet level Department of Education without asking our permission for giving the money. It was too obvious then what those unions would do if left alone. I had been told and told how much good they were doing for me and couldn't find it anymore.

The kind of regulation you talk about has been proven wrong by the EPA as they put in regulations aimed at coal usage because Obama couldn't get Congress to pass such a law. Regulation is a thing that must be in place in some instances and for obvious reasons, but does the nation's population agree with all of the regulations EPA has passed since its inception? Shouldn't the Congress pass those laws?

MrEd Loc: Georgia

These departments cannot pass laws. They have no authority to do so, but everyone lets them do it anyway. Congress is the ONLY branch of government that is allowed to pass laws, but Congress has delegated it's authority to pass laws off to these departments since they are to lazy to do it themselves. That way if the people really pitch a fit over some law that a department passed, then they can play the saviors and demand they cancel it. That way it makes them look really good to the v**ers and we v**e for them again.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I think I heard judge Andrew Napolitano tell why we let those people get by with passing regulations that appear to be law. Take the EPA, for instance. They pass regulations that seem to carry the weight of law but without the President and his army of people they could be avoided.

The Constitution doesn't give Congress the power to delegate their law making powers to anyone but the establishment people of both parties have pushed this crap off on us with unconstitutional laws like the Patriotic Act.

themadblacksmith

exactly so. What we need is public financing of campaigns. The idea is, everyone running for office -NOT just the Demopublican and the Republicrat-get a certain amount of free radio and newspaper space. If a campaign did not cost $10,000,000 the special interest groups, like Wall Street, Israel and 'the gays" would not be so powerful.

themadblacksmith

Good point. i suppose they delegate regulating to beauros like the EPA , because the EPA people are supposed to be experts (Although Bush appointed industry hacks, NOT scientists) Or maybe the pols are too busy raising money for their next campaign to learn about things like education or pollution. damned pols -DFL or GOP -are not good for much besides campaigning. I like Judge Napolitiano's writings but in this case i suspect he's being a littel paranoid. There is an old saying "Never attribute to malice, what can be adequately explained by stupidity." I think this is good to keep in mind, esp. when taking about the Dim-ocrats.

roy

[/quote]

amen,you got it right

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

[/quote]

There has been no one single destructive force in the last 20 years to business, then Unions. They are nothing more than financial VAMPIRES.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

[/quote]

There has been no one single destructive force in the last 20 years to business, then Unions. They are nothing more than financial VAMPIRES.

themadblacksmith

what planet do live on? Unions have been getting weaker and weaker for the last 30 or 40 years. And they were a positive GOOD for the USA. Before the Uions if a man was hurt or crippled on the job, he was booted out the door to starve. And the corporations had NO interest in safe working condition. All they cared about was to steal as much as they could as fast as they could. THAT has not changed! he vampires are the stinking BANKERS. they sell junk bonds as AAA securites and foreclose on homes they don't even own. They are a bunch of gangsters and if Obma had any balls he'd have declared martial law and hung them all.

the not