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May 12, 2021 11:26:27   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
Retired Marine stuns crowd at (Tea)Party - he is not in uniform, but

Watch this crowd........

In the beginning when he started to sing, they

were not even aware he was singing the national anthem's second verse.


http://www.youtube.com/v/I0fQd858cRc&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3



Since the words to the anthem were written in 1814, I have a hard time understanding why today's Washingtonians say that

In God, We Trust" should be taken off our money, etc. Could it be that they are just plain ignorant of history--or a whole lot worse! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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May 12, 2021 11:58:28   #
Carlos Caliente
 
THAT WAS AWESOME!!! THANKS FOR POSTING.

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May 12, 2021 12:59:19   #
Kevyn
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Retired Marine stuns crowd at (Tea)Party - he is not in uniform, but

Watch this crowd........

In the beginning when he started to sing, they

were not even aware he was singing the national anthem's second verse.


http://www.youtube.com/v/I0fQd858cRc&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3



Since the words to the anthem were written in 1814, I have a hard time understanding why today's Washingtonians say that

In God, We Trust" should be taken off our money, etc. Could it be that they are just plain ignorant of history--or a whole lot worse! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Enjoy!
Retired Marine stuns crowd at (Tea)Party - he is n... (show quote)

In god we trust was needlessly added to our currency in the fifties during the Henny Penny red scare. It doesn’t bother me but is likely offensive to the tens of millions of atheists and agnostics citizens and really plays no role. Those who are people of faith are not likely going to lose it if it is no longer on the cash they spend. Since it serves no purpose and offends some, why bother?

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May 12, 2021 14:05:38   #
ChJoe
 
Kevyn wrote:
In god we trust was needlessly added to our currency in the fifties during the Henny Penny red scare. It doesn’t bother me but is likely offensive to the tens of millions of atheists and agnostics citizens and really plays no role. Those who are people of faith are not likely going to lose it if it is no longer on the cash they spend. Since it serves no purpose and offends some, why bother?


Why would it be offensive?

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May 12, 2021 14:20:20   #
Kevyn
 
ChJoe wrote:
Why would it be offensive?


Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.

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May 12, 2021 14:32:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Amer... (show quote)
Tell that to our founders. The Role of the Bible in Early American Education

Neither our money nor our pledge of allegiance are government property. And, faith in something greater than ourselves is not a crutch.

It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
Psalm 118:8

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May 12, 2021 14:38:48   #
ChJoe
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Amer... (show quote)


Why would they be offended?

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May 12, 2021 14:40:05   #
ChJoe
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Tell that to our founders. The Role of the Bible in Early American Education

Neither our money nor our pledge of allegiance are government property. And, faith in something greater than ourselves is not a crutch.

It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
Psalm 118:8


I'm still wondering why they would be offended?

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May 12, 2021 16:44:18   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
Kevyn wrote:
In god we trust was needlessly added to our currency in the fifties during the Henny Penny red scare. It doesn’t bother me but is likely offensive to the tens of millions of atheists and agnostics citizens and really plays no role. Those who are people of faith are not likely going to lose it if it is no longer on the cash they spend. Since it serves no purpose and offends some, why bother?


***Since it serves no purpose and offends some, why bother?
>>>It gives the vast majority, inspiration about our history and what America is about, despite the likes of you. And I don't care about the atheists and if it offends them. Suck it up. It is that inspiration that helps make America great and inspires most Americans to continue to make America great, so even atheists can enjoy the greatness of America.

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May 12, 2021 16:53:15   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Amer... (show quote)


***Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.

>>>As usual, you don't seen to get it.
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another.
>>>There is no way that any song or slogan of f**g could ever satisfy all. It satisfies most

***Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive.
>>>No religious doctrine is being enforced. But our history and religious background has a right to be displayed in a non doctrinal way and respected. If anyone on the planet can prove their is no God, I'll stand with you. YOu can't. It is a believe system that most of the people in the world have, a faith that their is something, somewhere greater then us, that made this all happen. That is God to me.

***I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government.
>>>Your privilege. I disagree.

***People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith.
>>>Agree. But we like the public recognition of that fact.

***And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.
>>>It isn't promoting any dogma. Just recognizing fact.

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May 12, 2021 21:55:02   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Tell that to our founders. The Role of the Bible in Early American Education

Neither our money nor our pledge of allegiance are government property. And, faith in something greater than ourselves is not a crutch.

It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
Psalm 118:8


That sounds like the root of our problems.

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May 12, 2021 22:09:46   #
3507
 
Kevyn wrote:
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Americans and shouldn’t belong to one group or another. Tens of millions of Americans do not believe in any god and practice no religion. Forcing the religious doctrine of faith on Americans who are not religious is exclusive. I don’t think it has a place on our currency, in our pledge of allegiance or in other aspects of our government. People of true faith do not need such a crutch for that faith. And the government should not be in the position to promote religious dogma of any kind.
Our currency like our f**g is symbolic to all Amer... (show quote)



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May 12, 2021 23:10:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That sounds like the root of our problems.
The root of your problem is not external.

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May 12, 2021 23:26:03   #
3507
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Retired Marine stuns crowd at (Tea)Party - he is not in uniform, but

Watch this crowd........

In the beginning when he started to sing, they

were not even aware he was singing the national anthem's second verse.


http://www.youtube.com/v/I0fQd858cRc&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3



Since the words to the anthem were written in 1814, I have a hard time understanding why today's Washingtonians say that

In God, We Trust" should be taken off our money, etc. Could it be that they are just plain ignorant of history--or a whole lot worse! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Enjoy!
Retired Marine stuns crowd at (Tea)Party - he is n... (show quote)


If it's for me to v**e on, then I v**e to remove "In God, We Trust" from currency.

Also: I prefer a secular government.

When I hear or see "God Bless America" it leaves me cold. Endless wrongs have been done in the name of God. Generally speaking, one religion's no better than another.

The man in the video is a good singer, and when there's good music, it's fine to get emotional or stirred up, regardless of whether there's some religion involved or not; just don't use "God" as a pretext for genocide, s***ery, etc.

I believe that the words in the Star Spangled Banner are not official law, and that there is an official law that says church and state should be kept separate from each other. I believe the Founders wanted them separate and wanted a secular government. But even if it _were_ true that the Founders wanted religion mixed in with government, I can see it would be a bad idea to have religion mixed in with government.

Also, I am uncomfortable whenever there is a Pledge of Allegiance to the F**g or a Lord's Prayer in school when I'm present. We had both every morning when I was in grade school, and I recited them along with everybody else, but it is like taking an oath one doesn't understand (or maybe doesn't believe in), or signing a contract that one hasn't read.

It's taken me decades to get out of churches that weren't a good fit and find one that is a good fit.

It took me years to read every word in the Bible from start to finish; I _would_ also read various other religious books such as the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita, but I haven't found the time for them yet, and I was born into a family that attended a Christian church, so I ended up reading the Bible, just as a result of circumstances.

I have tried to be conscientious and not blasphemous nor hypocritical in my religion -- not easy, when one has been born into a religious tradition.

Even Jesus said "... do not swear an oath at all ... All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. (Matt 5:34-37)(NIV). (According to the Bible he said "evil one"; but, I think, it would have been enough to just say it's a bad idea or leads to wrong things.)

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May 13, 2021 00:50:15   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
3507 wrote:
If it's for me to v**e on, then I v**e to remove "In God, We Trust" from currency.

Also: I prefer a secular government.

When I hear or see "God Bless America" it leaves me cold. Endless wrongs have been done in the name of God. Generally speaking, one religion's no better than another.

The man in the video is a good singer, and when there's good music, it's fine to get emotional or stirred up, regardless of whether there's some religion involved or not; just don't use "God" as a pretext for genocide, s***ery, etc.

I believe that the words in the Star Spangled Banner are not official law, and that there is an official law that says church and state should be kept separate from each other. I believe the Founders wanted them separate and wanted a secular government. But even if it _were_ true that the Founders wanted religion mixed in with government, I can see it would be a bad idea to have religion mixed in with government.

Also, I am uncomfortable whenever there is a Pledge of Allegiance to the F**g or a Lord's Prayer in school when I'm present. We had both every morning when I was in grade school, and I recited them along with everybody else, but it is like taking an oath one doesn't understand (or maybe doesn't believe in), or signing a contract that one hasn't read.

It's taken me decades to get out of churches that weren't a good fit and find one that is a good fit.

It took me years to read every word in the Bible from start to finish; I _would_ also read various other religious books such as the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita, but I haven't found the time for them yet, and I was born into a family that attended a Christian church, so I ended up reading the Bible, just as a result of circumstances.

I have tried to be conscientious and not blasphemous nor hypocritical in my religion -- not easy, when one has been born into a religious tradition.

Even Jesus said "... do not swear an oath at all ... All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. (Matt 5:34-37)(NIV). (According to the Bible he said "evil one"; but, I think, it would have been enough to just say it's a bad idea or leads to wrong things.)
If it's for me to v**e on, then I v**e to remove &... (show quote)

So, you read the Bible "just as a result of circumstances", like reading any other book, and apparently got little from it.

In any case, from what reading you have done, can you tell us why Christianity is unique among all other religions?

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