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May 11, 2021 21:51:59   #
martsiva
 
PeterS wrote:
If there are all colors why is it called "White Nationalism?" You people honest to god conflate words and meanings to such an extent that it is laughable. Honest to god need to look up definitions before you say you support the position. White Nationalism is EVIL. Nationalism is EVIL. Neither of these are about love of country--that's covered by patriotism. This is about your country being superior to all things and all other countries. "America Uber Alles" or "America Over ALL" including its own citizens. If you believe in freedom, Nationalism is the worst thing you could support.
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Did you actually ask 'why is it called white nationalism'??? Who calls it 'white nationalism'?? R****ts call it that!! So what you are saying is that devotion to one`s country is evil?? So you are saying patriotism is evil?? So you are saying that belief in an independent state is evil?? YES - nationalism IS about love of country!! YOU are a r****t when all you can say is 'white nationalism!! MY country?? What country are you from?? You obviously don`t know the first thing about MY country with your very stupid comment about nationalism being the worst thing for freedom!! One more time - WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM??

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May 11, 2021 22:00:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
martsiva wrote:
Did you actually ask 'why is it called white nationalism'??? Who calls it 'white nationalism'?? R****ts call it that!! So what you are saying is that devotion to one`s country is evil?? So you are saying patriotism is evil?? So you are saying that belief in an independent state is evil?? YES - nationalism IS about love of country!! YOU are a r****t when all you can say is 'white nationalism!! MY country?? What country are you from?? You obviously don`t know the first thing about MY country with your very stupid comment about nationalism being the worst thing for freedom!! One more time - WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM??
Did you actually ask 'why is it called white natio... (show quote)


Why do you have trouble distinguishing nationalism from patriotism??? It's not difficult... Nationalism is not love for one's country... That is patriotism...

And there is a difference between white nationalism and nationalism...

Peter is from Texas...

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May 12, 2021 18:59:30   #
martsiva
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Why do you have trouble distinguishing nationalism from patriotism??? It's not difficult... Nationalism is not love for one's country... That is patriotism...

And there is a difference between white nationalism and nationalism...

Peter is from Texas...


YES - nationalism IS 'devotion to one`s country' which MEANS love for country!! Patriotism IS nationalism - what part don`t YOU understand?? Only a r****t would put 'white' in front of nationalism to indicate it is w***e s*******y, which is a bold face lie!!

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May 12, 2021 19:42:30   #
Big Kahuna
 
martsiva wrote:
YES - nationalism IS 'devotion to one`s country' which MEANS love for country!! Patriotism IS nationalism - what part don`t YOU understand?? Only a r****t would put 'white' in front of nationalism to indicate it is w***e s*******y, which is a bold face lie!!


In that case all people of color would be considered brown/black/yellow or red anti-Americans.

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May 12, 2021 20:32:23   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
martsiva wrote:
YES - nationalism IS 'devotion to one`s country' which MEANS love for country!! Patriotism IS nationalism - what part don`t YOU understand?? Only a r****t would put 'white' in front of nationalism to indicate it is w***e s*******y, which is a bold face lie!!


Sigh...

One can be dev**ed to something without loving it... And one can love something without being dev**ed to it.... Hence nationalism and patriotism are not interchangeable terms...

White nationalism is different from nationalism.... Obviously... Which is why they should be differentiated... R****ts do put white in front of nationalism to indicate that they are talking about w***e s*******y...

English can be difficult for second language speakers .. Perhaps you should consult a friend or online dictionary if you're having trouble with these concepts...

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May 12, 2021 23:28:27   #
Boy from the Bronx
 
proud republican wrote:
How are we Republicans / Conservatives asking for f*****m??? How did President T erg ump destroyed Democracy?? Give me an example ......And why I came to America is not any of anyone's business....


Trump didn't destroy Democracy, but he certainly TRIED TO DO IT, by behaving in an authoritarian manner, by spreading hatred against his critics and detractors, by refusing to tolerate anyone in his own administration who dared to oppose him, or disagree with him, or just plain contradict him. Furthermore, he had contempt for the United States Constitution, as evident by his suggestion that he could be elected to a third term as President, even though the 22nd Amendment (ratified in 1951) limits the President to only two four-year terms. (ironically, the 22nd Amendment was the idea of the REPUBLICANS, who didn't like the idea of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a DEMOCRAT, being elected President four times!)

Not only that, but Trump even once said that he'd like to be PRESIDENT-FOR-LIFE, even though a) nothing in the Constitution allows it, and b) ruling over a country for life is tantamount to being a DICTATOR! That's the way it was with Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines, and Idi Amin of Uganda. (in fact, Amin insisted that he be referred to as "Field Marshal President-For-Life Dr. Idi Amin Dada"; talk about a mouthful!)

Trump further showed his disregard for the Constitution by a) promoting the outrageous idea that to be against him was the same as being against the United States of America itself, b) vilifying the media, accusing it of spreading "f**e news" (read: news reports that criticized him or his policies), calling it "evil" and "the enemy of the people," and planning to use the libel laws to intimidate Anti-Trump newspapers into silence, c) trying to concentrate all the powers of the Government in his hands alone, which would upset the balance of power and the checks and balances that have kept the Government from becoming a full-fledged totalitarian state, d) advocating for extralegal methods of dealing with accused criminals and political/racial r****rs (like the ones responsible for last summer's destruction and unrest), including summary executions without giving the suspects a chance for a fair trial, which would violate the Fifth, Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments, and e) generally trying to give the impression that he was always right, and that those who said otherwise were either "losers" or "t*****rs"!

That is exactly the same attitude of all tyrants, despots, and dictators! If Trump were reelected last November, he would have been in a position to further undermine the Constitution, and thus destroy our heritage of freedom.

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May 12, 2021 23:42:37   #
Boy from the Bronx
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Your support for Marxism and anti-Americanism Trumps anything that any pro-White Nationalist agenda would support. America last won't cut it. Take your NWO and shove it up your a--


Where did "Peter S" say that he supports "Marxism and anti-Americanism"? When did he talk about "America last," or the NWO (New World Order)?

You're making the age-old right-wing mistake of assuming that anyone who differs with the opinions of the Conservative establishment is a Marxist, a C*******t, a Socialist, a Leninist, a Maoist, etc. That was Senator Joseph McCarthy's stock in trade, l believe, not to mention that of Adolf Hitler, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, the South American death squards and dictators, the CIA, the Ku Klux Klan, Glen Beck, the late Morton Downey, Jr, and the recently late Rush Limbaugh.

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May 13, 2021 02:25:32   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
Trump didn't destroy Democracy, but he certainly TRIED TO DO IT, by behaving in an authoritarian manner, by spreading hatred against his critics and detractors, by refusing to tolerate anyone in his own administration who dared to oppose him, or disagree with him, or just plain contradict him. Furthermore, he had contempt for the United States Constitution, as evident by his suggestion that he could be elected to a third term as President, even though the 22nd Amendment (ratified in 1951) limits the President to only two four-year terms. (ironically, the 22nd Amendment was the idea of the REPUBLICANS, who didn't like the idea of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a DEMOCRAT, being elected President four times!)

Not only that, but Trump even once said that he'd like to be PRESIDENT-FOR-LIFE, even though a) nothing in the Constitution allows it, and b) ruling over a country for life is tantamount to being a DICTATOR! That's the way it was with Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines, and Idi Amin of Uganda. (in fact, Amin insisted that he be referred to as "Field Marshal President-For-Life Dr. Idi Amin Dada"; talk about a mouthful!)

Trump further showed his disregard for the Constitution by a) promoting the outrageous idea that to be against him was the same as being against the United States of America itself, b) vilifying the media, accusing it of spreading "f**e news" (read: news reports that criticized him or his policies), calling it "evil" and "the enemy of the people," and planning to use the libel laws to intimidate Anti-Trump newspapers into silence, c) trying to concentrate all the powers of the Government in his hands alone, which would upset the balance of power and the checks and balances that have kept the Government from becoming a full-fledged totalitarian state, d) advocating for extralegal methods of dealing with accused criminals and political/racial r****rs (like the ones responsible for last summer's destruction and unrest), including summary executions without giving the suspects a chance for a fair trial, which would violate the Fifth, Sixth and Fourteenth Amendments, and e) generally trying to give the impression that he was always right, and that those who said otherwise were either "losers" or "t*****rs"!

That is exactly the same attitude of all tyrants, despots, and dictators! If Trump were reelected last November, he would have been in a position to further undermine the Constitution, and thus destroy our heritage of freedom.
Trump didn't destroy Democracy, but he certainly T... (show quote)


It's actually a very effective approach to populism when there's a significant population of politically oblivious and/or emotionally agitated citizens. It's a very old practice but it got a name when Mussolini used it to bring himself and his F*****ti to power.

Fortunately, Trump's balls aren't as big as Mussolini's were.

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May 13, 2021 06:04:11   #
Gatsby
 
straightUp wrote:
It's actually a very effective approach to populism when there's a significant population of politically oblivious and/or emotionally agitated citizens. It's a very old practice but it got a name when Mussolini used it to bring himself and his F*****ti to power.

Fortunately, Trump's balls aren't as big as Mussolini's were.


Unfortunately O'bummer's are, and he is still pulling all the strings in the Democratic Socialist Party.

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May 13, 2021 06:07:53   #
Big Kahuna
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
Where did "Peter S" say that he supports "Marxism and anti-Americanism"? When did he talk about "America last," or the NWO (New World Order)?

You're making the age-old right-wing mistake of assuming that anyone who differs with the opinions of the Conservative establishment is a Marxist, a C*******t, a Socialist, a Leninist, a Maoist, etc. That was Senator Joseph McCarthy's stock in trade, l believe, not to mention that of Adolf Hitler, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, the South American death squards and dictators, the CIA, the Ku Klux Klan, Glen Beck, the late Morton Downey, Jr, and the recently late Rush Limbaugh.
Where did "Peter S" say that he supports... (show quote)


He h**es American Nationalism and W****s putting America 1st. That means he wants us at least 2nd and subservient to other countries which he thinks should be #1. Most of his previous posts also mimic a Marxist agenda. Now get off your soap box,call Slo Joe and tell him to quit promoting Marxism and a One world government. Better yet, tell him to quit destroying our oil independence and making
a gallon of gasoline go up to$5.00.

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May 13, 2021 06:10:04   #
Big Kahuna
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
Where did "Peter S" say that he supports "Marxism and anti-Americanism"? When did he talk about "America last," or the NWO (New World Order)?

You're making the age-old right-wing mistake of assuming that anyone who differs with the opinions of the Conservative establishment is a Marxist, a C*******t, a Socialist, a Leninist, a Maoist, etc. That was Senator Joseph McCarthy's stock in trade, l believe, not to mention that of Adolf Hitler, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, the South American death squards and dictators, the CIA, the Ku Klux Klan, Glen Beck, the late Morton Downey, Jr, and the recently late Rush Limbaugh.
Where did "Peter S" say that he supports... (show quote)


And senator McCarthy is now proven to have been right about commiie's in all branches of our left wing government.

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May 13, 2021 06:11:35   #
Big Kahuna
 
Gatsby wrote:
Unfortunately O'bummer's are, and he is still pulling all the strings in the Democratic Socialist Party.


Obummer has 2 ovaries which are larger than his husband Mooch ovommit's.

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May 13, 2021 19:12:17   #
martsiva
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sigh...

One can be dev**ed to something without loving it... And one can love something without being dev**ed to it.... Hence nationalism and patriotism are not interchangeable terms...

White nationalism is different from nationalism.... Obviously... Which is why they should be differentiated... R****ts do put white in front of nationalism to indicate that they are talking about w***e s*******y...

English can be difficult for second language speakers .. Perhaps you should consult a friend or online dictionary if you're having trouble with these concepts...
Sigh... br br One can be dev**ed to something wi... (show quote)


Webster`s New World Dictionary - devotion is 'loyalty or deep affection'!! And YOU talk about consulting a dictionary???

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May 13, 2021 19:29:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
martsiva wrote:
Webster`s New World Dictionary - devotion is 'loyalty or deep affection'!! And YOU talk about consulting a dictionary???


Loyalty does not equate with love...

Deep affection does not equate with love...

I'm glad you took my advice

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May 14, 2021 08:54:23   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Loyalty does not equate with love...

Deep affection does not equate with love...

I'm glad you took my advice



As you can see below love is considered to be “an intense feeling of deep affection!” IMHO you have attempted to confine love in a small box! Our feelings of love continually grow and evolve throughout our life. We start out in life with our love, affection, devotion, and loyalty to our parents......from there we continue to experience LOVE in many many various ways and depth! In my opinion!


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an intense feeling of deep affection.
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a great interest and pleasure in something.
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verb: love; 3rd person present: loves; past tense: loved; past participle: loved; gerund or present participle: loving
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feel deep affection for (someone).
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like or enjoy very much.
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