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Apr 21, 2021 12:24:56   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife.

"The G****e F***d case was difficult on so many levels. The emotional impact of seeing him beg for breath for such a long time touched a nation ... indeed, it likely touched a world. For those of us who want police to do their jobs, it was difficult to watch one of those men in blue to abuse his position and, to me, it seems as though arrogance will be called out as the biggest factor that landed Chauvin a guilty verdict. That kind of arrogance doesn't belong in a police force.

Many of are also challenged with the negative effects of those who resist arrest - and if Floyd had not resisted arrest he may be alive today - as we see in many similar instances across our nation. If nothing else is taken away, please, teach your children (and yourselves) to follow the orders of a police authority. Always, children should be taught to respect authority. That doesn't mean we allow others to abuse that authority without consequences, but the consequence should come later in a court of law or with a higher authority. Ultimately what followed the resist wasn't acceptable - and we see that Chauvin has now been held accountable for his actions.

Having sat through 2 trials for Dad's murderer I can empathize with the families who listened to the evidence in court. It is gut wrenching and brings that horror back again, and again. And you look at the jury with great fear that they're buying into the perversion of facts. Ultimately, all you can do is respect that the jury will give the case their full attention and consideration of all the factors, and of all the facts. As in the Floyd case, this jury came to the right conclusion.

This hasn't been something that divided our country as the news media seem to want to promote. All of us were egregiously affected by the videos. Did we question Floyd's behavior leading up to his death? Yes. But the point that stood out, above all else, was the action of one policeman - Chauvin. And we found his actions unacceptable. We still respect the overwhelming numbers of good cops and thank them for putting themselves in harms way to keep us safe. And I can only believe that they see the actions of Chauvin as wrong as well. Justice was served today. It isn't always easy, but to survive as a nation we must respect the process.

I've done a lot of 'Black vs White police actions' research during the past few years, and I honestly can't find those numbers that promote the concept that more B****s are k**led as compared to W****s. I just can't support that - but if you can absolutely show me differently I'm open to listening. W****s tell their children to be as cautious around police as any other demographic. Women have to look over their shoulder and be aware of their surroundings more than men - but that factor isn't broken down along racial lines. I'm just as cautious in an elevator if ANY man enters. The current racial movement seems to prefer that we look at each other and judge each other based on our race. I can't go along with that either. I don't approve of the B*M movement and their propensity for violence and calling W****s r****t merely because they are White. I think that sets us all down a dangerous, d******e path. When the movement first came out, I understood the message as B****s are important too. Today that message has been perverted by the extremism of the movement leadership. I don't want to be a divided nation and I wish the damn press would shut up. They no longer act as a source for information, but, rather, they create the path of the story themselves. Journalism is dead.

Let's find a new day to vanquish r****m. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our neighbor. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our loved ones. Let's pray our nation will heal and that we can all stop judging each other based solely on our skin color. And for goodness sake - let's all toughen up enough not to be triggered by low-fat yoghurt."

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Apr 21, 2021 12:55:43   #
Kellett3745
 
Sounds good
Good luck

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Apr 21, 2021 13:27:04   #
hygrometer3
 
How many times have you seen a person comply and get handcuffed and then get the s**t kicked out of them by police.

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Apr 21, 2021 13:28:13   #
Carol Kelly
 
Strycker wrote:
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife.

"The G****e F***d case was difficult on so many levels. The emotional impact of seeing him beg for breath for such a long time touched a nation ... indeed, it likely touched a world. For those of us who want police to do their jobs, it was difficult to watch one of those men in blue to abuse his position and, to me, it seems as though arrogance will be called out as the biggest factor that landed Chauvin a guilty verdict. That kind of arrogance doesn't belong in a police force.

Many of are also challenged with the negative effects of those who resist arrest - and if Floyd had not resisted arrest he may be alive today - as we see in many similar instances across our nation. If nothing else is taken away, please, teach your children (and yourselves) to follow the orders of a police authority. Always, children should be taught to respect authority. That doesn't mean we allow others to abuse that authority without consequences, but the consequence should come later in a court of law or with a higher authority. Ultimately what followed the resist wasn't acceptable - and we see that Chauvin has now been held accountable for his actions.

Having sat through 2 trials for Dad's murderer I can empathize with the families who listened to the evidence in court. It is gut wrenching and brings that horror back again, and again. And you look at the jury with great fear that they're buying into the perversion of facts. Ultimately, all you can do is respect that the jury will give the case their full attention and consideration of all the factors, and of all the facts. As in the Floyd case, this jury came to the right conclusion.

This hasn't been something that divided our country as the news media seem to want to promote. All of us were egregiously affected by the videos. Did we question Floyd's behavior leading up to his death? Yes. But the point that stood out, above all else, was the action of one policeman - Chauvin. And we found his actions unacceptable. We still respect the overwhelming numbers of good cops and thank them for putting themselves in harms way to keep us safe. And I can only believe that they see the actions of Chauvin as wrong as well. Justice was served today. It isn't always easy, but to survive as a nation we must respect the process.

I've done a lot of 'Black vs White police actions' research during the past few years, and I honestly can't find those numbers that promote the concept that more B****s are k**led as compared to W****s. I just can't support that - but if you can absolutely show me differently I'm open to listening. W****s tell their children to be as cautious around police as any other demographic. Women have to look over their shoulder and be aware of their surroundings more than men - but that factor isn't broken down along racial lines. I'm just as cautious in an elevator if ANY man enters. The current racial movement seems to prefer that we look at each other and judge each other based on our race. I can't go along with that either. I don't approve of the B*M movement and their propensity for violence and calling W****s r****t merely because they are White. I think that sets us all down a dangerous, d******e path. When the movement first came out, I understood the message as B****s are important too. Today that message has been perverted by the extremism of the movement leadership. I don't want to be a divided nation and I wish the damn press would shut up. They no longer act as a source for information, but, rather, they create the path of the story themselves. Journalism is dead.

Let's find a new day to vanquish r****m. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our neighbor. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our loved ones. Let's pray our nation will heal and that we can all stop judging each other based solely on our skin color. And for goodness sake - let's all toughen up enough not to be triggered by low-fat yoghurt."
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife. ... (show quote)


Not be triggered by low fat yoghurt or f******l. Very good synopsis, well written and thoughtful.

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Apr 21, 2021 13:28:44   #
Carol Kelly
 
hygrometer3 wrote:
How many times have you seen a person comply and get handcuffed and then get the s**t kicked out of them by police.


I have never seen that.

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Apr 21, 2021 13:48:19   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I have never seen that.


I have. it's horrifying.

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Apr 21, 2021 14:02:43   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
hygrometer3 wrote:
How many times have you seen a person comply and get handcuffed and then get the s**t kicked out of them by police.


I am unaware of any. Incidences may or may not have happened but if it has it is likely so rare to be statistically irrelevant.

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Apr 21, 2021 14:33:37   #
jim_oldman Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Strycker wrote:
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife.

"The G****e F***d case was difficult on so many levels. The emotional impact of seeing him beg for breath for such a long time touched a nation ... indeed, it likely touched a world. For those of us who want police to do their jobs, it was difficult to watch one of those men in blue to abuse his position and, to me, it seems as though arrogance will be called out as the biggest factor that landed Chauvin a guilty verdict. That kind of arrogance doesn't belong in a police force.

Many of are also challenged with the negative effects of those who resist arrest - and if Floyd had not resisted arrest he may be alive today - as we see in many similar instances across our nation. If nothing else is taken away, please, teach your children (and yourselves) to follow the orders of a police authority. Always, children should be taught to respect authority. That doesn't mean we allow others to abuse that authority without consequences, but the consequence should come later in a court of law or with a higher authority. Ultimately what followed the resist wasn't acceptable - and we see that Chauvin has now been held accountable for his actions.

Having sat through 2 trials for Dad's murderer I can empathize with the families who listened to the evidence in court. It is gut wrenching and brings that horror back again, and again. And you look at the jury with great fear that they're buying into the perversion of facts. Ultimately, all you can do is respect that the jury will give the case their full attention and consideration of all the factors, and of all the facts. As in the Floyd case, this jury came to the right conclusion.

This hasn't been something that divided our country as the news media seem to want to promote. All of us were egregiously affected by the videos. Did we question Floyd's behavior leading up to his death? Yes. But the point that stood out, above all else, was the action of one policeman - Chauvin. And we found his actions unacceptable. We still respect the overwhelming numbers of good cops and thank them for putting themselves in harms way to keep us safe. And I can only believe that they see the actions of Chauvin as wrong as well. Justice was served today. It isn't always easy, but to survive as a nation we must respect the process.

I've done a lot of 'Black vs White police actions' research during the past few years, and I honestly can't find those numbers that promote the concept that more B****s are k**led as compared to W****s. I just can't support that - but if you can absolutely show me differently I'm open to listening. W****s tell their children to be as cautious around police as any other demographic. Women have to look over their shoulder and be aware of their surroundings more than men - but that factor isn't broken down along racial lines. I'm just as cautious in an elevator if ANY man enters. The current racial movement seems to prefer that we look at each other and judge each other based on our race. I can't go along with that either. I don't approve of the B*M movement and their propensity for violence and calling W****s r****t merely because they are White. I think that sets us all down a dangerous, d******e path. When the movement first came out, I understood the message as B****s are important too. Today that message has been perverted by the extremism of the movement leadership. I don't want to be a divided nation and I wish the damn press would shut up. They no longer act as a source for information, but, rather, they create the path of the story themselves. Journalism is dead.

Let's find a new day to vanquish r****m. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our neighbor. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our loved ones. Let's pray our nation will heal and that we can all stop judging each other based solely on our skin color. And for goodness sake - let's all toughen up enough not to be triggered by low-fat yoghurt."
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife. ... (show quote)




If you really want to "vanquish r****m" try giving AS MUCH coverage to EVERY arrest made by the police, not just the ones when when there is a death or the death is a Black person. I believe all the police are wearing body cameras these days. I'm guessing there will be an abundance of "wow did you see that" exclamations.

I remember suffering thru the 1st 20-25 minutes of the Floyd video where the officers tried to gently coax him out of HIS car, how they tried to gently coax into the back of the police car, how he forced his way out of the police car, how he ASKED to lay down on the ground, how he complained throughout this 25 minute portion of the video that he couldn't breath while the police were only holding his arm while he was standing up.

It was at the height of the p******c & none of the police officers were wearing masks & Floyd was frothing at the mouth saying he couldn't breath.

I have to ask how much of the arrest video did y'all see or remember?



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Apr 21, 2021 18:21:19   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Strycker wrote:
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife.

"The G****e F***d case was difficult on so many levels. The emotional impact of seeing him beg for breath for such a long time touched a nation ... indeed, it likely touched a world. For those of us who want police to do their jobs, it was difficult to watch one of those men in blue to abuse his position and, to me, it seems as though arrogance will be called out as the biggest factor that landed Chauvin a guilty verdict. That kind of arrogance doesn't belong in a police force.

Many of are also challenged with the negative effects of those who resist arrest - and if Floyd had not resisted arrest he may be alive today - as we see in many similar instances across our nation. If nothing else is taken away, please, teach your children (and yourselves) to follow the orders of a police authority. Always, children should be taught to respect authority. That doesn't mean we allow others to abuse that authority without consequences, but the consequence should come later in a court of law or with a higher authority. Ultimately what followed the resist wasn't acceptable - and we see that Chauvin has now been held accountable for his actions.

Having sat through 2 trials for Dad's murderer I can empathize with the families who listened to the evidence in court. It is gut wrenching and brings that horror back again, and again. And you look at the jury with great fear that they're buying into the perversion of facts. Ultimately, all you can do is respect that the jury will give the case their full attention and consideration of all the factors, and of all the facts. As in the Floyd case, this jury came to the right conclusion.

This hasn't been something that divided our country as the news media seem to want to promote. All of us were egregiously affected by the videos. Did we question Floyd's behavior leading up to his death? Yes. But the point that stood out, above all else, was the action of one policeman - Chauvin. And we found his actions unacceptable. We still respect the overwhelming numbers of good cops and thank them for putting themselves in harms way to keep us safe. And I can only believe that they see the actions of Chauvin as wrong as well. Justice was served today. It isn't always easy, but to survive as a nation we must respect the process.

I've done a lot of 'Black vs White police actions' research during the past few years, and I honestly can't find those numbers that promote the concept that more B****s are k**led as compared to W****s. I just can't support that - but if you can absolutely show me differently I'm open to listening. W****s tell their children to be as cautious around police as any other demographic. Women have to look over their shoulder and be aware of their surroundings more than men - but that factor isn't broken down along racial lines. I'm just as cautious in an elevator if ANY man enters. The current racial movement seems to prefer that we look at each other and judge each other based on our race. I can't go along with that either. I don't approve of the B*M movement and their propensity for violence and calling W****s r****t merely because they are White. I think that sets us all down a dangerous, d******e path. When the movement first came out, I understood the message as B****s are important too. Today that message has been perverted by the extremism of the movement leadership. I don't want to be a divided nation and I wish the damn press would shut up. They no longer act as a source for information, but, rather, they create the path of the story themselves. Journalism is dead.

Let's find a new day to vanquish r****m. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our neighbor. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our loved ones. Let's pray our nation will heal and that we can all stop judging each other based solely on our skin color. And for goodness sake - let's all toughen up enough not to be triggered by low-fat yoghurt."
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife. ... (show quote)


While I disagree with a some of the assumptions by your wife, it was well thought out and well written. Rare with the usual cheap one liners of people hear on OPP. However I have to lean more to Jim_oldmans's response as more accurate to the facts and not the biased expert witnesses.

***I remember suffering thru the 1st 20-25 minutes of the Floyd video where the officers tried to gently coax him out of HIS car, how they tried to gently coax into the back of the police car, how he forced his way out of the police car, how he ASKED to lay down on the ground, how he complained throughout this 25 minute portion of the video that he couldn't breath while the police were only holding his arm while he was standing up.

It was at the height of the p******c & none of the police officers were wearing masks & Floyd was frothing at the mouth saying he couldn't breath.

>>>Chauvin came along after most if this and took over as a senior officer in time served. When Floyd was put on the ground, Chauvin kneet on the side/back of his neck and on his shoulder. It was never shown that he was aggressive or mean or nasty. Actually casually kneeling, knowing that this wasn't hurting him to any degree. AND IT WASN'T. Floyd had previously been resisting and a big strong man and he was calmly being held on the ground. At his request. The cries of not being able to breathe were started way before this and never escalated to any great extent. Along comes someone with a cell phone and video. Totally out of context. Think of a magician pulling a trick. You only see what you see and the magician wants you to see and think that you see. You don't see what actually happened. And these people were seeing the results of the Magician. Not what led up to it. Tthat he was disruptive and the police were overly polite, that he asked to be put on the ground, that he said he wasn't on anything, that he had been complaining about not being able to breathe way before being put on the ground. What these people didn't know and that video didn't show, was that Floyd popped some F******l at a level of overdose and was in fact over dozing. Over dosing on F******l cause fluids to build up in the lungs, proven by his lungs being 2 to 3 times normal weight. These fluids keep the exchange of oxygen in the lungs from happening as if he was drowning. In his own bodily fluids. There was actual proof that the kneeling wasn't preventing him from breathing. He was. Just no oxygen was being exchanged in his lungs. There was no damage to his trachea. An ambulance was already called and they escalated it. If Chauvin got up after 2 minutes or so, Floyd would have still died. Nothing they could have done, even if they knew about the fluids in his lungs, would have saved him. He was a dead man, waiting for his heart to stop beating because there was no oxygen being exchanged in his lungs. These are the real facts of what happened during the last 10 to 15 minutes of Floyd' s life.

That being said, no one should have died that way. Floyd was caught before with drugs and swallowed them so he would go the a hospital and not jail if he was caught with illegal drugs. Last time he got away with it. This time the drugs were to much for him and it cost him his life. His family that was mostly out of his life were enriched by $27 million and a huge Go Fund Me page. He got a heroes burial and was anything but. The subsequent r**ts cost more lives, l**ting, arson and billions in costs. All this for a thug that once put a gun to a pregnant womans stomach and threatened her if she didn't reveal where her money was.

He got justice on the street. Chauvin didn't and there are three more innocent cops to go. Men that tried to be as nice as they could be while taking him in. And the pathetic unwashed mobs got their victory and America and the world slipped one step further into anarchy.

Logically Right

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Apr 21, 2021 18:31:13   #
jim_oldman Loc: Lexington, SC
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
While I disagree with a some of the assumptions by your wife, it was well thought out and well written. Rare with the usual cheap one liners of people hear on OPP. However I have to lean more to Jim_oldmans's response as more accurate to the facts and not the biased expert witnesses.

***I remember suffering thru the 1st 20-25 minutes of the Floyd video where the officers tried to gently coax him out of HIS car, how they tried to gently coax into the back of the police car, how he forced his way out of the police car, how he ASKED to lay down on the ground, how he complained throughout this 25 minute portion of the video that he couldn't breath while the police were only holding his arm while he was standing up.

It was at the height of the p******c & none of the police officers were wearing masks & Floyd was frothing at the mouth saying he couldn't breath.

>>>Chauvin came along after most if this and took over as a senior officer in time served. When Floyd was put on the ground, Chauvin kneet on the side/back of his neck and on his shoulder. It was never shown that he was aggressive or mean or nasty. Actually casually kneeling, knowing that this wasn't hurting him to any degree. AND IT WASN'T. Floyd had previously been resisting and a big strong man and he was calmly being held on the ground. At his request. The cries of not being able to breathe were started way before this and never escalated to any great extent. Along comes someone with a cell phone and video. Totally out of context. Think of a magician pulling a trick. You only see what you see and the magician wants you to see and think that you see. You don't see what actually happened. And these people were seeing the results of the Magician. Not what led up to it. Tthat he was disruptive and the police were overly polite, that he asked to be put on the ground, that he said he wasn't on anything, that he had been complaining about not being able to breathe way before being put on the ground. What these people didn't know and that video didn't show, was that Floyd popped some F******l at a level of overdose and was in fact over dozing. Over dosing on F******l cause fluids to build up in the lungs, proven by his lungs being 2 to 3 times normal weight. These fluids keep the exchange of oxygen in the lungs from happening as if he was drowning. In his own bodily fluids. There was actual proof that the kneeling wasn't preventing him from breathing. He was. Just no oxygen was being exchanged in his lungs. There was no damage to his trachea. An ambulance was already called and they escalated it. If Chauvin got up after 2 minutes or so, Floyd would have still died. Nothing they could have done, even if they knew about the fluids in his lungs, would have saved him. He was a dead man, waiting for his heart to stop beating because there was no oxygen being exchanged in his lungs. These are the real facts of what happened during the last 10 to 15 minutes of Floyd' s life.

That being said, no one should have died that way. Floyd was caught before with drugs and swallowed them so he would go the a hospital and not jail if he was caught with illegal drugs. Last time he got away with it. This time the drugs were to much for him and it cost him his life. His family that was mostly out of his life were enriched by $27 million and a huge Go Fund Me page. He got a heroes burial and was anything but. The subsequent r**ts cost more lives, l**ting, arson and billions in costs. All this for a thug that once put a gun to a pregnant womans stomach and threatened her if she didn't reveal where her money was.

He got justice on the street. Chauvin didn't and there are three more innocent cops to go. Men that tried to be as nice as they could be while taking him in. And the pathetic unwashed mobs got their victory and America and the world slipped one step further into anarchy.

Logically Right
While I disagree with a some of the assumptions by... (show quote)



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Apr 21, 2021 22:36:35   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
While I disagree with a some of the assumptions by your wife, it was well thought out and well written. Rare with the usual cheap one liners of people hear on OPP. However I have to lean more to Jim_oldmans's response as more accurate to the facts and not the biased expert witnesses.

***I remember suffering thru the 1st 20-25 minutes of the Floyd video where the officers tried to gently coax him out of HIS car, how they tried to gently coax into the back of the police car, how he forced his way out of the police car, how he ASKED to lay down on the ground, how he complained throughout this 25 minute portion of the video that he couldn't breath while the police were only holding his arm while he was standing up.

It was at the height of the p******c & none of the police officers were wearing masks & Floyd was frothing at the mouth saying he couldn't breath.

>>>Chauvin came along after most if this and took over as a senior officer in time served. When Floyd was put on the ground, Chauvin kneet on the side/back of his neck and on his shoulder. It was never shown that he was aggressive or mean or nasty. Actually casually kneeling, knowing that this wasn't hurting him to any degree. AND IT WASN'T. Floyd had previously been resisting and a big strong man and he was calmly being held on the ground. At his request. The cries of not being able to breathe were started way before this and never escalated to any great extent. Along comes someone with a cell phone and video. Totally out of context. Think of a magician pulling a trick. You only see what you see and the magician wants you to see and think that you see. You don't see what actually happened. And these people were seeing the results of the Magician. Not what led up to it. Tthat he was disruptive and the police were overly polite, that he asked to be put on the ground, that he said he wasn't on anything, that he had been complaining about not being able to breathe way before being put on the ground. What these people didn't know and that video didn't show, was that Floyd popped some F******l at a level of overdose and was in fact over dozing. Over dosing on F******l cause fluids to build up in the lungs, proven by his lungs being 2 to 3 times normal weight. These fluids keep the exchange of oxygen in the lungs from happening as if he was drowning. In his own bodily fluids. There was actual proof that the kneeling wasn't preventing him from breathing. He was. Just no oxygen was being exchanged in his lungs. There was no damage to his trachea. An ambulance was already called and they escalated it. If Chauvin got up after 2 minutes or so, Floyd would have still died. Nothing they could have done, even if they knew about the fluids in his lungs, would have saved him. He was a dead man, waiting for his heart to stop beating because there was no oxygen being exchanged in his lungs. These are the real facts of what happened during the last 10 to 15 minutes of Floyd' s life.

That being said, no one should have died that way. Floyd was caught before with drugs and swallowed them so he would go the a hospital and not jail if he was caught with illegal drugs. Last time he got away with it. This time the drugs were to much for him and it cost him his life. His family that was mostly out of his life were enriched by $27 million and a huge Go Fund Me page. He got a heroes burial and was anything but. The subsequent r**ts cost more lives, l**ting, arson and billions in costs. All this for a thug that once put a gun to a pregnant womans stomach and threatened her if she didn't reveal where her money was.

He got justice on the street. Chauvin didn't and there are three more innocent cops to go. Men that tried to be as nice as they could be while taking him in. And the pathetic unwashed mobs got their victory and America and the world slipped one step further into anarchy.

Logically Right
While I disagree with a some of the assumptions by... (show quote)


I didn't watch much of the trial. Was any of this medical statement provided by the defense with witnesses that prove the large quantities of f******l in his system along with that statements of his lungs being full of fluids was the cause of death? Certainly what was reported on the news stated the opposite. If this is more than just a theory and it wasn't presented by his defense team then he has a strong basis for an appeal and o*******w of his conviction. If this is just a theory with no provable evidence of fact, barring the possibility that the jury was feeling intimidated by the mob and Warren, then I assume the jury made their best decision and justice was done.

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Apr 21, 2021 23:48:02   #
jim_oldman Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Strycker wrote:
I didn't watch much of the trial. Was any of this medical statement provided by the defense with witnesses that prove the large quantities of f******l in his system along with that statements of his lungs being full of fluids was the cause of death? Certainly what was reported on the news stated the opposite. If this is more than just a theory and it wasn't presented by his defense team then he has a strong basis for an appeal and o*******w of his conviction. If this is just a theory with no provable evidence of fact, barring the possibility that the jury was feeling intimidated by the mob and Warren, then I assume the jury made their best decision and justice was done.
I didn't watch much of the trial. Was any of this ... (show quote)


I can understand not wasting your time watching the trial, I CAN'T understand you reading LogicallyRights post & then "ASSUME the jury made their best decision and justice was done." Sounds to me that no matter what was presented you think the guilty, guilty, guilty verdict was justice done.

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Apr 22, 2021 00:31:42   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
jim_oldman wrote:
I can understand not wasting your time watching the trial, I CAN'T understand you reading LogicallyRights post & then "ASSUME the jury made their best decision and justice was done." Sounds to me that no matter what was presented you think the guilty, guilty, guilty verdict was justice done.


I said nothing about watching the trial being a waste of my time. I would have liked to have watched it all but have other commitments. I also don't trust media reports anymore. So much spin. I actually was surprised with the verdict as, with my limited information, I thought at worst he would be found guilty of the lowest charge. Apparently the jury when presented with the totality of the case saw it differently.

Not sure why your panties are in a bunch.

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Apr 22, 2021 06:54:09   #
Big Kahuna
 
Strycker wrote:
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife.

"The G****e F***d case was difficult on so many levels. The emotional impact of seeing him beg for breath for such a long time touched a nation ... indeed, it likely touched a world. For those of us who want police to do their jobs, it was difficult to watch one of those men in blue to abuse his position and, to me, it seems as though arrogance will be called out as the biggest factor that landed Chauvin a guilty verdict. That kind of arrogance doesn't belong in a police force.

Many of are also challenged with the negative effects of those who resist arrest - and if Floyd had not resisted arrest he may be alive today - as we see in many similar instances across our nation. If nothing else is taken away, please, teach your children (and yourselves) to follow the orders of a police authority. Always, children should be taught to respect authority. That doesn't mean we allow others to abuse that authority without consequences, but the consequence should come later in a court of law or with a higher authority. Ultimately what followed the resist wasn't acceptable - and we see that Chauvin has now been held accountable for his actions.

Having sat through 2 trials for Dad's murderer I can empathize with the families who listened to the evidence in court. It is gut wrenching and brings that horror back again, and again. And you look at the jury with great fear that they're buying into the perversion of facts. Ultimately, all you can do is respect that the jury will give the case their full attention and consideration of all the factors, and of all the facts. As in the Floyd case, this jury came to the right conclusion.

This hasn't been something that divided our country as the news media seem to want to promote. All of us were egregiously affected by the videos. Did we question Floyd's behavior leading up to his death? Yes. But the point that stood out, above all else, was the action of one policeman - Chauvin. And we found his actions unacceptable. We still respect the overwhelming numbers of good cops and thank them for putting themselves in harms way to keep us safe. And I can only believe that they see the actions of Chauvin as wrong as well. Justice was served today. It isn't always easy, but to survive as a nation we must respect the process.

I've done a lot of 'Black vs White police actions' research during the past few years, and I honestly can't find those numbers that promote the concept that more B****s are k**led as compared to W****s. I just can't support that - but if you can absolutely show me differently I'm open to listening. W****s tell their children to be as cautious around police as any other demographic. Women have to look over their shoulder and be aware of their surroundings more than men - but that factor isn't broken down along racial lines. I'm just as cautious in an elevator if ANY man enters. The current racial movement seems to prefer that we look at each other and judge each other based on our race. I can't go along with that either. I don't approve of the B*M movement and their propensity for violence and calling W****s r****t merely because they are White. I think that sets us all down a dangerous, d******e path. When the movement first came out, I understood the message as B****s are important too. Today that message has been perverted by the extremism of the movement leadership. I don't want to be a divided nation and I wish the damn press would shut up. They no longer act as a source for information, but, rather, they create the path of the story themselves. Journalism is dead.

Let's find a new day to vanquish r****m. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our neighbor. Let's find a new day to be thankful for our loved ones. Let's pray our nation will heal and that we can all stop judging each other based solely on our skin color. And for goodness sake - let's all toughen up enough not to be triggered by low-fat yoghurt."
Not written by me but a good synopsis by my wife. ... (show quote)


I tell my kids to be careful in crime infested l*****t black run cities. Body armor, machine guns, tanks, surface to air missiles and even nuclear devices can't be ruled out. S******c r****m against w****s is prevalent in those cities so be prepared as the Scout motto says.

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Apr 22, 2021 11:06:42   #
jim_oldman Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Strycker wrote:
I said nothing about watching the trial being a waste of my time. I would have liked to have watched it all but have other commitments. I also don't trust media reports anymore. So much spin. I actually was surprised with the verdict as, with my limited information, I thought at worst he would be found guilty of the lowest charge. Apparently the jury when presented with the totality of the case saw it differently.

Not sure why your panties are in a bunch.



I was simply taking you at your words Ma'am. You said "I didn't watch much of the trial......I assume the jury made their best decision and justice was done."

I think watching hours upon hours of that soap opera would have been a waste of time and understanding if you didn't or couldn't or wh**ever want to watch. What I don't understand is your assumption that " justice was done" if you didn't at the very least watch the entire video & then defend your ASSUMPTION.

This old man could do without your sassy comments missy .

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