archie bunker Loc: Texas

Good luck........

White toilets will be next.
They show the brown streaks.

Or splatter in some cases.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

He will never be able to. Even he knows it will make him look even more foolish.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Careful with the g****r pronouns, Jim. We don't know!
Don't want to offend dontcha know!

I, personally have a mental picture of this one based on its posts.

He/she/it needs a job.

JohnCo

It might be, if the ID'ing system were deliberately set up to disproportionately impact people of particular "race(s)".

You could have asked a different question, such as: "Do you think this 'asking for picture ID' system will tend to favor one political party over another?"



No, of course not. Your question #2 appears to be designed for some rhetorical purpose! But, thinking a little further into it, do these people _have_ a picture ID, and is it the right _kind_ of picture ID? I'll get back to that after a bit.

If r****m or "black"ness is involved in an e******n picture ID system, it's might be because some "races" or "black" people tend to v**e more Democratic than Republican. I notice that it seems to be Republicans who advocate for 'asking for picture ID' or any other systems to make v****g more difficult.

As for me, a v**er, if I'm asked for my picture ID then I might show my driver's license, _if_ I had driven myself to the polling place in a car. Sometimes I just walk to the polling place. I don't carry my driver' license everywhere -- mostly just when I go places by driving myself. Without my driver's license, what would I use for the picture ID? I don't know.

Some people don't have driver's licenses.

What kind of people don't have driver's licenses?

Answer: I would guess that mostly they would be poor people, and maybe a lot of students, or anyone who doesn't drive or lives where driving isn't necessary, which might include a lot of inner-city residents and a lot of students.

Do poor people and students tend to v**e more Democrat or more Republican?

Do "black" people tend to be more poor than "white" people?

According to Greg Palast (an investigative reporter who's been covering U.S. e******ns for many years), 646,671 v**ers were blocked from v****g in 2016 because they had the wrong ID. He says his calculations are based on 2016 data reported by the EAC [E******ns Assistance Commission], Census, Federal E******ns Commission (FEC) and the quadrennial Survey of the Performance of American E******ns (SPAE). I'm getting this from page 178 of his book "How Trump Stole 2020", copyright 2020.

What wrong ID? In the scenario of Wisconsin students, I can answer that, because it's described on pages 149-150 of the same book. But if you're only interested in "race" or r****m, hang on because "Black" is also mentioned in what follows here:

"Nationwide, only two states recorded a drop in student v****g. Wisconsin's drop was breathtaking. In-precinct v****g by students declined by a third, from 67% to 49%. ...

"... They were disappeared in plain sight by the Republican legislature under laws crafted by Wisconsin's radical-right Governor, Scott Walker.

"One new law required a government photo ID to v**e. But the photo ID issued by the state to its 182,000 University of Wisconsin students (begin italics) did not qualify them (end italics) for v****g nor for registration.

"... Gun permits could be used to v**e; but not student ID. ...

"A Wisconsin driver's license would do. But not everyone has a license. Who doesn't drive? Students in Madison and low-income urban v**ers, i.e., the Black population of Milwaukee.

"What was particularly devastating was that the law was ordered into effect by a court only two weeks before the 2016 e******n. Even those who knew of the change had little time to correct their lack of paperwork, even if they could."

And so on. It is particularly relevant if it is a known fact (among Republicans crafting the v**er ID law) that students and low-income urban v**ers tend to v**e Democratic. I happen to have information handy regarding the students. It's earlier on page 149 where he writes, "... Wisconsin was supposed to be a safe state for Clinton. Her husband had won Wisconsin twice. In fact, Democrats had crushed it seven e******ns in a row, helped by the massive v**e from the famously progressive, activist University of Wisconsin student population."

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Dang you're windy!

Stifle yourself, and quit wasting bandwidth already, will ya?
If you really believe all the crap you put out, you don't live in the real world, and are another Shill for the radical left.

Got any I. D. bout that?

JohnCo

So, I've lost a reader. (You don't have to read what I write.). And I'm still not done.

JohnCo

Addendum:

But in 2016, T***p w*n Wisconsin. By how many v**es? According to https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e******ns/live_results/2016_general/president/wi.html#! ,
Trump got 1,409,476 v**es in Wisconsin and H. Clinton got 1,382,210. The difference is only about 27,000 v**es!! Compare that to the effect of the v**er-ID law effective two weeks before the e******n -- consider how it may have affected the aforementioned "[s]tudents in Madison and low-income urban v**ers, i.e., the Black population of Milwaukee." The "Wrong ID" v**es lost nationwide were 646,671, which is about 24 times as much as Trump's 27,000-v**e margin in Wisconsin.

But only two states recorded a drop in student v****g, and Wisconsin (where the v**er ID law was implemented just two weeks before the e******n) was one of them. "In-precinct v****g by students declined [dramatically] by a third, from 67% to 49%. (page 149, Palast). Now I'm going to do a rough calculation -- the situation is probably more complicated but this is just to get a ball-park estimate: 67%-49% = 18%. 18% of 182,000(U. of Wisc. students) = 32,760 !! And 32,760 > 27,000 (Trump's margin of victory in Wisconsin that year, 2016). This calculation is not an actual proof, but it does seem to indicate that disqualifying the Wisconsin Student ID for v****g purposes, in the final two weeks just before the e******n, could easily have thrown the e******n in Wisconsin to Trump in 2016. That's the kind of thing one can do in swing states, with a little planning (which I would call "a little nefarious planning").

As I said earlier, the number 646,671 came from page 178 (Palast). Nationwide it's part of 7,854,928 "v**es uncounted & v**ers blocked" (totaled together) in 2016. (That's also from the same page where he has a table of the various kinds of losses of v**es.) It's likely that most of these kinds of losses occur mostly in swing states. (See the last sentence of my previous paragraph: That's the kind of thing one can do in swing states, with a little planning.) In a swing state, a few thousand v**es can make the difference for the whole state result in the e******n of president, and that might even throw the entire national p**********l e******n. I remember that some of Trump's margins of victory have been pretty small in several swing states, at least in 2020, and presumably also in 2016 when Clinton won the popular v**e nationwide.

The v**er ID law looks like just one more Republican tactic to make v****g more difficult among the kinds of people who tend to v**e for Democrats.

Now hearken back to the reason Republicans offer for all this: "v***r f***d": On page 28 (Palast): "Rutgers Professor Lorraine Minnite, the nation's top v**e f***d expert, found just six verified cases of v**er impersonation over 12 years of our nation's e******ns."

Six (6).

I'm pretty sure the count would be at least nine (9) if she had counted what happened in 2020. In 2020 three verified cases of v***r f***d were in Pennsylvania, and all of them were extra illegal v**es for Trump. We would have to expect _that_, because Trump had publicly suggested v****g twice. (Reference: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e******n/trump-doubles-down-encouraging-supporters-v**e-twice-which-illegal-n1239265 ). The more rare v***r f***d case would be one committed by a Democrat, because they are less likely to follow Mr. Trump's suggestions.

Well, to valiantly (ostensibly) try to eliminate "v***r f***d", Republicans around the nation are putting into place laws such as that 2016 v**er ID law in Wisconsin that probably cost the Democrat candidate somewhere in the ballpark of between 10,000 and 40,000 v**es in that one state. That's many thousands of legal v**es blocked, ostensibly to prevent a few fraudulent v**es by v***r f***d (no more than half a dozen, probably, see above quote from page 28 -- "just six verified cases of v**er impersonation over 12 years of our nation's e******ns" -- nationwide! -- back before we had a president who encouraged v****g twice).

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

No and No

Neither do Liberals.

CounterRevolutionary

Milosia2, your post is most curious, citing the conservative platform of the Libertarian Party and its Vice P**********l candidate, David Koch. Surely many strict Constitutionalists would champion reducing the size of our dysfunctional government by eliminating most of the 600(+) bureaucracies.

I'd prefer privatizing the bureaucracies and let Congressmen and the Courts consulting them on an as-needed-basis. Consumer oversite and class action lawsuits are far more effective in controlling the market-place and would end the revolving door of corporate cronyism and bureaucratic corruption. For example:

* How do you explain Ortho's Round-up, chalk full of PCBs and cancer causing toxins having remained on the market since the 1960s through 2020 with no effective oversight from the FDA, EPA, USDA, or CDC and HHS over the past 60 years?

* How do you explain the crisis of Johnson & Johnson marketing Levaquin as a stronger antibiotic, k*****g hundreds and crippling thousands as patients' blood vessels burst and their tendons and flesh detach from their bones?

* Where was the government bureaucratic oversight of the so-called "experts" that you place on such a high pedestal?

Larry Klayman files lawsuit against Former FDA commissioner Hamburg, Johnson & Johnson and others sued for alleged racketeering and other claims over dangerous drug Levaquin
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/larry-klayman-files-lawsuit-against-former-fda-commissioner-hamburg-johnson--johnson-and-others-sued-for-alleged-racketeering-and-other-claims-over-dangerous-drug-levaquin-300206300.html

NEWS PROVIDED BY
Larry Klayman
Jan 19, 2016, 11:41 ET

WASHINGTON, Jan. 19, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Larry Klayman, counsel for individual plaintiffs who were seriously harmed by the dangerous drug Levaquin, brought suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia alleging violations of the Racketeering and Corrupt Organizations Act ("RICO"), the Lanham Act, and a variety of common law torts.
http://www.larryklayman.com/pdf/160119-Final Filed Levaquin Complaint .pdf

According to Klayman, "Obama administration appointee, former FDA Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg, is at the heart of this scandal, and her husband Peter Brown, co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies, L.L.C., a major New York hedge fund. While Dr. Hamburg was head of the FDA, her husband profited enormously from as much as half a billion dollars in Johnson & Johnson stock, the maker of Levaquin, held by Renaissance Technologies."

Levaquin is a drug intended to treat a range of infections, including routine sinus, skin and urinary tract infections.

The complaint alleges Dr. Hamburg and her husband and others at Renaissance Technologies, L.L.C., conspired with Johnson & Johnson and other defendants to suppress information about Levaquin's harmful effects. "To reveal it would have not only harmed Johnson & Johnson's profits, but invite significant lawsuits, driving Johnson & Johnson stock price downward, thereby financially harming Dr. Hamburg, her husband and Renaissance Technologies' profits. Plaintiffs were unwitting victims, suffering from a variety of medical conditions, some of which were just recently disclosed at an FDA Advisory Committee Hearing November 5, 2015.

The complaint can be found at www.larryklayman.com and its allegations speak for themselves.

Klayman called it "a major scandal affecting the health plaintiffs and thousands of others. Defendants allegedly reaped large financial gains and profits at the expense of my clients. The entire sad episode exemplifies how some in private industry allegedly conspire and act with Washington D.C. public officials to greedily line their pockets, leaving everyone else to be damned."

"The complaint asks for millions of dollars in damages and justice," said Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, and a former federal prosecutor who, during his tenure at the U.S. Department of Justice, not coincidentally prosecuted on behalf of the Food and Drug Administration and other federal agencies, as well as serving on the trial team that, in a landmark antitrust case, broke up the monopoly of AT&T.

For information, contact daj142182@gmail.com.

Media contact: Adrienne Mazzone 561-750-9800 x2270; amaz-zone@t***smediagroup.com.

SOURCE Larry Klayman

Related Links
http://www.larryklayman.com

PeterS

What's the point in them when someone like Trump can lie about v***r f***d and every conservative instantly believes him? And don't call other people stupid when every one of you cons fell for Trump's BIG LIE and most of you still believe that Democrats are able to c***t with impunity. And why are you conservatives eliminating v**er precincts when we should be opening up more and making it even easier to v**e? You seem to take the approach that v****g should be a punishment where people can't eat or drink and lines should be as long as possible...at least in minority districts that is.

So is a photo ID r****t? Not in itself but you are a people who back the police's murder of b****s. You want walls built to stop, primarily, Hispanics from entering this country. When a black man kneels at a football game you howel in protest about his patriotism then say nary a word as a white man carries the stars and bars through our Capitol building. Since everything that you do and say is targeted at minorities the question of your r****m is answered by how you behave. Don't ask me if you are a r****t. Stop acting like one so I will know!

America 1 Loc: South Miami

To do just about anything you need some form of picture ID.
A REAL ID state-issued.
And, if you forget to take it along, hustle your ass back home and get it.

PeterS

We've used dropboxes for decades. When did they suddenly become ripe for fraud?

Army

It's sad what these company's are allowed to get away with and now Murder by Injection. Like Larry Klayman watch his updates all time on country he's one the only good lawyers.

Army

Army

Only if you're r****t

If you want to be that stupid you will be