2 questions for Kevyn , Woodguru and the rest of Libs on OPP.. (Page 12): "how v**er suppression works":...

JohnCo

"how v**er suppression works":

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/12/georgia-v****g-jim-crow-laws-dr-james-crow

CounterRevolutionary

JohnCo wrote:

Good question. People should analyze more like that. Okay, now suppose the imposter shows up first. He f**es the identity successfully, and then v**es. Later, the person who genuinely has the identity shows up to v**e. Where I v**ed in person, they looked me up in a book and had me sign my name next to my printed name and address (before v****g). At that point, the genuine v**er would be stopped because a signature is already there.

Then, I don't know how they would track the imposter down (although somehow they did catch the three Trump-v****g imposters in Pennsylvania, so there must be some way that works at least some of the time).

However, in your scenario a person would _know_ that there had been an imposter. The genuine v**er would know. How many times do you think that has happened? If somebody had stolen your identity in that way, signed your name, and v**ed in your place, wouldn't you report that? Wouldn't there be a lot of e******n officials around the country trying to do something about it? Of course there would be. If it happened often enough to be a significant problem (enough times that it could affect the outcome in a swing state), those genuine v**ers (whose specific identities had been stolen in that way) would be making news about it (if the e******n officials didn't do so first). Yet this _isn't_ happening. Find at least one real-world example where a v**er has said his or her identity was stolen for the v****g; and name that genuine v**er. If it's a Democrat, then the lieutenant governor of Texas wants to give you a large monetary reward for the example (if he hasn't already given it to that genuine v**er who reported it).

And you and the genuine v**er don't even have to be Texans to qualify for the reward. Or if you are, you'll have enough money (a million dollars in reward money) for the both of you to finally move out of there.

And it makes sense that it would be a rare event. Imagine you wanted a steal an e******n. So you think of fraudulently v****g. Would you risk a prison sentence just to fraudulently make ONE v**e (as in the above scenario)? The three Trump v**ers who tried that in Pennsylvania got caught. I sure wouldn't try it, even if I were very dishonest; it wouldn't be worth the risk. In order to steal a p**********l e******n, you'd need several thousand such dishonest v**es in one or more swing states, and every single one of those v**es represents the chance of getting caught and facing a prison sentence. I would not risk a prison sentence just to add one v**e to someone's tally.

Now, revisiting your question: how would they track the imposter down: They might miss the first few, but as soon as a few genuine v**ers reported it (as in "Hey, what's that signature doing there! I didn't sign that!), _then_ the e******n officials would recognize the problem (if they didn't, those genuine v**ers would make a stink about it in the news) and know they'd have to do something about it (install a videocamera at the signature-book location _or_ have a new v**er ID law); but since it hasn't been reported by genuine v**ers (who can _tell_ us their identities, who can _point_ to the actual fraudulent signatures -- this is better evidence than what Trump supporters have been coming up with), we can deduce it simply hasn't been a significant problem -- it's so rare that it wouldn't affect the outcome of an e******n. There are _far_ greater problems to focus on.

Good question. People should analyze more like th... (show quote)

For anyone who has worked at the polls, we know provisional b****ts are filed by v**ers in question for any reason. The provisional b****t is processed separately by hand at the secretary of state office to clear up any identity questions.

Especially in big cities, the v****g district polling borders are often changed to accommodate frequent population shifts that citizens are not aware of and they mistakenly end up at the wrong polling place: new apartment complexes going up, or university dormitories built, or redistricting changes made after the centennial census is taken.

The more serious problem is that too frequently, the SOS does not clean up its v**er lists. What has our government done to rid us of D******n V****g System machines? Does anybody know? Have any congressmen responded to our inquiries?

Abel

JohnCo wrote:

Thank you for h*****g in there.

I furthered my argument in other recent posts.

A consistent and simple ID law, with plenty of advance notice before an e******n, would probably be okay, as long as getting such an ID were as simple (for all legitimate v**ers) as Proud Republican says it is. Whether it's necessary for e******n security is another matter, also addressed recently.

IMHO: V**er Photo ID is important, and necessary. It is the v**e counters that determine who won an e******n so it is important in an argument of who v**ed to have photo proof so the counter has no choice of which of the duplicate b****ts is legal. Photo IDs are NOT any more difficult to obtain than a drivers license or a non-driver card, unless you are illegal and/or in one of the anti-USA states that issues drivers licenses out of c*****rjax boxes or sanctuary states.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Peewee wrote:

If they own it, why would they have to pay anyone?... (show quote)

And no capitalists, corporations or CEOs.
Lying sacks o chit, evangelicals, republicans....

America 1 Loc: South Miami

JohnCo wrote:

"how v**er suppression works":

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/12/georgia-v****g-jim-crow-laws-dr-james-crow

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece.
Biden is 'very adept at race-baiting.
Dr. Alveda King reacts to Georgia's new v****g law and religious freedoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe25dWUQFFQ

federally indicted mattoid

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

For anyone who has worked at the polls, we know b... (show quote)

Your last question is likely the reason that D******n is suing the toupee off Giuliani etc.

Abel

Abel wrote:

IMHO: V**er Photo ID is important, and necessary. It is the v**e counters that determine who won an e******n so it is important in an argument of who v**ed to have photo proof so the counter has no choice of which of the duplicate b****ts is legal. Photo IDs are NOT any more difficult to obtain than a drivers license or a non-driver card, unless you are illegal and/or in one of the anti-USA states that issues drivers licenses out of c*****rjax boxes or sanctuary states.

Well, although I don't like to be wrong, but I would like to correct a couple of things I said above. I went into the Blue Springs, Missouri Drivers License office to renew my drivers license yesterday and things have definitely changed, and not for the better. We now have a Drivers License that is "not for identification," and a "Real ID" drivers license which requires several forms of ID and a Passport to get. I got the "Real ID" drivers license because the deadline for having one is October 1, 2021.

Now, I said it was not difficult to get an ID here. I was wrong. I was second in line at the office, which is operating under the C***d farce of isolation and masking. Arriving an hour earlier than the office opened to stand in line did help me a little; it got me into the office before many others so I got one of the few available chairs and didn't have to stand outside on this somewhat chilly morning like those who were further down the waiting line. They said they would text you when your number came up if you wanted to go do other things, but my cell phone doesn't text, so I couldn't leave.

In this office, they now have a computer registering system to determine who is first to be "helped," and it is NOT the "first in line!" The system can register people on-line, and although I was second to register in at the office, there were a great many who were registered on-line before me already, and I sat there for nearly 5 hours before my turn came up. The lady that handled my renewal was very pleasant and all went well once I finally got to the window. What I thought was going to be easy turned into a half a day wasted wait due to their computer registering system that I was unaware of.

Being a bit on the elder side of life, I was lucky I finally got waited on when I did. Had it been much longer, my bladder would have caused a rather large wet spot on their carpet because they wouldn't let anyone use the one toilet they had because of the C***d farce. They were lucky I had skipped breakfast and anything to drink. After waiting over 4 hours, I wasn't about to leave and go to their suggested gas station about half a block away, wet pants or not. Just another great Democrat inconvenience they offer.

Just think, if it weren't for the Democrats and their mega-paperwork mass control operations and their political correctness and agitprop, thousands of people wouldn't have a government job. Com'on man, show me your papers!

Sorry I may have misled anyone in Missouri, or anywhere else, about how easy it is to get a photo ID. The day before, I had stood in line at the Lee's Summit, Missouri License office who didn't have the computer system and was a subcontractor office, for 20 minutes until some lady came out to see who wanted what and told me I was in the wrong line for what I needed to do and they wouldn't be able to get to me that day. This was a bit annoying, especially since there was only one line and no signage or evidence that another line existed. She also chewed me out because my mask wasn't over my nose; Hell, the line was outside the building in fresh air. I guess she was well indoctrinated and programmed but a bit under-educated about what masks will do or won't do.

When you are dealing with a Democratically controlled office, in a Democratically controlled county, that is just how Democratic policy works to confuse the public. They keep people confused in order to mask their shady operations. Hopefully, we will one day get out from under Democrat (Mob) control, but we have been trying for years and the Mob Machinery is very well entrenched here in Jackson County, so it will probably be a long time coming. Doubt if I'll live long enough to see it. No, I'm not a Republican, they're nearly as bad as the Democrats. If I was a praying man, I'd pray the USA someday has a president again.

zombietracker Loc: Fema region 6

Tiptop789 wrote:

In my opinion I don't think question 1 is r****t but other forms without pictures should be acceptable. I think CO accepts many different forms.

Question 2, some people don't have a state issued ID. Again, they're other ways to verify identity.

Let me you a question, why so few drop boxes in GA? V****g should be easy, not made more difficult.

Who on this planet does not have a state ID?

CounterRevolutionary

useful mattoid 45 wrote:

Your last question is likely the reason that D******n is suing the toupee off Giuliani etc.

So, have you heard anything more about this law suit?
Where are the guys that own this crooked D******n V****g Systems company?

Where are the Clintons, the Podesta brothers, Chair of the DNC Thomas Perez, Clapper, Comey, Haspel, Brennon, Mueller, Soros, even the r****rs are vanishing. FEMA camps?

CounterRevolutionary

America 1 wrote:

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece.
Biden is 'very adept at race-baiting.
Dr. Alveda King reacts to Georgia's new v****g law and religious freedoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe25dWUQFFQ

Thank you for sharing this video. Finally we hear the voice of reason.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

So, have you heard anything more about this law suit?
Where are the guys that own this crooked D******n V****g Systems company?

Where are the Clintons, the Podesta brothers, Chair of the DNC Thomas Perez, Clapper, Comey, Haspel, Brennon, Mueller, Soros, even the r****rs are vanishing. FEMA camps?

They are all on R&R paid for by US taxpayers.
Probably at Martha's Vineyard.

JohnCo

zombietracker wrote:

Who on this planet does not have a state ID?

I have a driver's license but neither a "Real ID" nor a passport. I'm not looking forward to having to get either of those. Abel has described the difficulty he had getting the Real ID. I expect that much difficulty, though unlike him, I don't blame it on Democrats, and I'm very glad that at least I'm v******ted; and I will probably wear a mask, as v******ted v***s experts say they are still doing also in such places. I hope the unmasked will at least cover their mouths when they sneeze if it's an indoor place where I have to be for some length of time.

Another thing I'm very glad about is that I'm retired and past the child-raising years, so it will be relatively easy for me if I have to wait 3 or 4 hours at a DMV or other ID'ing office -- I don't have too many urgent demands on my time. Too bad for low-wage working people with children, because it's harder for them to keep up.

Thanks to Abel for the tip about online registration. That will help some.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Milosia2 wrote:

And no capitalists, corporations or CEOs.
Lying sacks o chit, evangelicals, republicans....

Democrat or Republican?
https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/5/10/48785-bmf20.jpg

federally indicted mattoid

CounterRevolutionary wrote:

So, have you heard anything more about this law suit?
Where are the guys that own this crooked D******n V****g Systems company?

Where are the Clintons, the Podesta brothers, Chair of the DNC Thomas Perez, Clapper, Comey, Haspel, Brennon, Mueller, Soros, even the r****rs are vanishing. FEMA camps?

Kook, you need to get a life and get off your conspiracy sites.

Go outside and play.

Abel

eagleye13 wrote:

Democrat or Republican?
https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/5/10/48785-bmf20.jpg

Neanderthal, dressed for a "Progressive"job interview.