Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Homestead brought this up:

"The Federalist Papers, are sort of the instruction manual for the Constitution."

This brought to mind that the Constitution is sort of like an instruction manual of how we should run the country.

Not a hard set of rules but a guide on how we should do things.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Good analogy, but those who often abuse the Constitution are very unlikely to be inclined to read, much less understand, the Federalist Papers.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

This site is at least for me is a problem.

At times it locks up on me. So in hitting keys to try to unlock my post it was posted before I finished.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Click "Edit" at the bottom of your original post, and make your changes.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I did that. If you go back you can see the complete post.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Now that you have posted it all, I disagree on one point. The Constitution is not a "suggested" set of rules, but instead, it is a contract between the Federal Government, The States, and a guarantee of honest and fair government to the people.

If properly followed, as it was originally written, we would have a Constitutional Republic, with the federal government restricted to very few duties and rights, like national defense, treaties with other nations, an interstate road system, ... and the states having the duties of seeing to the well being and education of the people.

MrEd Loc: Georgia

"Not a hard set of rules but a guide on how we should do things."

You couldn't be more wrong. It is very much a HARD set of LAWS that the government is obligated to use to govern this country. They are not suggestions, or a guide, but the LAW OF THE LAND. The reason we are having problems with this government is because of people like you that think like this.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Okay have it your way. Have fifty sets of laws or rules on most common issues. That is sure to divide us even more.

Just how would you propose to undo what has been done.

As divided as we are now how would you start to make the changes you wish to see?

Just what are those changes?

If those that wrote the Constitution had the right just who gave them the right? Or did they just take it as their right them self.?

Who has to give us the Right to make changes or do we have that Right?

To my way of thinking it was all about a group of rich people setting up a system that would be good for them self.

It became clear that the system was not quite as good as it could have been & adjustments with the Bill of Rights has been done.

Adjustments will always need to be made as the things change.

But as long as people like you & I find it hard to agree on issues things will just keep getting worse for the masses.

Yes that is us also..

It is up to people like us to pick up the ball & push for the issues we feel need to be changed.

Seeds of thought need to be planted & must come from many voices with out any leadership. The masses need to speak as one & all must feel the need for change.

This has to be done before the internet falls under complete control of the media.

votebob

It is our God given rights as human's. If you believe a man made law is UN'....Constitutional....YOU have a right to DIS OBEY under the constitution and Supreme Court Statue. One problem, ignorance may be an excuse in this country after all. When 23% v**e in an e******n, what does that tell us,....May you bow down and lick the hand that feeds you and history forget's YE were once our countrymen ..HMMM sound familiar????

votebob

As an American, we are to stay vigilant. And beware of pretended Patriotism. Freedom is not FREE, there is a price to pay, however as citizen's, one needs to be active in your....GOVERNMENT...Otherwise it is ran by the ignorant.......Bad Choice's...or not in our best interest....GREED...etc. Don't be lured...into giving up...ANY RIGHT'S...for temporary safety, otherwise you may end up with ..NO..RIGHTS...and NO Safety, Liberty, Freedom...I say pay ATTENTION...SON..PAY ATTENTION. Good Day

MrEd Loc: Georgia

You really don't know very much about the Constitution do you? It's a shame really, because there is a lot of history behind it. You should open your eyes and start learning our most important document.

As to the Bill of Rights saying that the Constitution was bad to begin with, you couldn't be more wrong. There was a very good reason why the Bill of Rights was written and added to the Constitution, but then you really don't care about that do you.

How about if you try learning a little about our Constitution before you start putting people down. And NO, it was not written by a bunch of rich people so they could take advantage of everyone else.

What is it that you are trying to undue that has been done?? I'm sure you have something in mind, but leaving it open like this is not helping your quest for change any more then if you didn't state anything. Try being a little more informative in your statements so we know what you are talking about.

As for changing the Constitution, there are ways to do that, but just ignoring it is not one of them, although that seems to be the government's biggest gift. If there is something about the Constitution that you feel needs to be changed, then do something about it, but don't sit there and demand that we all ignore it just because you don't like it.

That was one of the most well thought out documents ever written that forms a government. There is nothing in history that gives us a document that gives us all the freedoms we get from our Constitution.

I still think you should learn our Constitution and it's history, because you really don't seem to understand it one bit.

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

Excellent post Trooper

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

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Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Thanks, MrEd, I can't give him a better response than yours. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Ricktloml

Amen. It is that very attitude that has brought us to the mess we are currently in. For Obama and the Democrats the Constitution is an obstacle to be overcome in their quest for the radical, fundamental t***sformation of this nation from a free society to a collectivist one. The Republicans have dropped the ball as well, but nothing like the in your face violations of their oaths of office