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Mar 29, 2021 20:56:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EmilyD wrote:
What if someone has not been inoculated? What do they do?


They're code would show that...

Just as it would show if they had contacted c***d or needed to quarantine or had travelled recently...

Nations are allowed to make requirements of their citizens...

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Mar 29, 2021 21:02:43   #
EmilyD
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
They're code would show that...

Just as it would show if they had contacted c***d or needed to quarantine or had travelled recently...

Nations are allowed to make requirements of their citizens...


If their code shows they have not been inoculated, are they allowed to go where those who have been inoculated go?

How tight do you think nations should be with their requirements?

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Mar 29, 2021 21:10:19   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EmilyD wrote:
If their code shows they have not been inoculated, are they allowed to go where those who have been inoculated go?

How tight do you think nations should be with their requirements?


Currently it is not an issue. ...

V*****es are stillborn mostly voluntary over here.....

Few nations have been tight enough with their regulations this last year... IMHO

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Mar 29, 2021 21:19:12   #
EmilyD
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Currently it is not an issue. ...

V*****es are stillborn mostly voluntary over here.....

Few nations have been tight enough with their regulations this last year... IMHO


Good to know it's still voluntary there...I hope it stays that way here! I do agree about regulations between countries. They are all different, some much more lax than others.

The "regulations" here are very strange. They are aiming to have v*****e passports for everyone except, apparently, i*****l a***ns who are streaming over the border, which doesn't look like it's going to let up any time soon. Makes me wonder what the driver is for that.

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Mar 29, 2021 22:39:57   #
Linzo
 
EmilyD, why do you think you shouldn’t be shunned? If I have been v******ted and meet up with someone else who has been v******ted, there is very little likelihood that I will contract the v***s from them. But if I meet up with someone who hasn’t been v******ted there is a 5% chance I could contact it, if that person has the v***s. Most people who took the v*****e just don’t want to take that chance. It is literally a life or death decision. Keep in mind you won’t be all by yourself. As reported on the PBS news hour, the latest poll had 42% of all Republicans and 80+ % of Republican white males saying that they will refuse to take the v*****e.

Regarding the lifetime health issues, problems etc., I have not heard of any from any of the v*****es being used in the United States. On the other hand, people who have gotten the v***s and survived, definitely have the possibility of long term problems. I’m not sure of the percentage, but I have seen a number of people on TV that were young athletes and middle aged marathon runners that now have trouble walking to their mailbox and are constantly tired and exhausted from doing nothing. So given those two scenarios, you probably should get the v*****e. The good news is, it’s still your choice in America. If you lived in China, it’s the government’s choice. It’s also your choice to wear a mask and social distance, so hopefully you will at least do yourself that favor.

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Mar 30, 2021 12:19:02   #
ChJoe
 
EmilyD wrote:
I'm confused...when you quoted my reply, it is what I posted, so I don't know what you mean "did I add to it"

But anyway, yes I am wholeheartedly against the passport. IMO, it is one of the many steps towards Socialism the Dems are rapidly trying to input so that by the time Americans (on both sides of the aisle) realize what is happening, it will be too late to do anything about it. That's why I said I will not become part of it - my freedom is much more important to me than living in a world without it. I would be like a mouse in a trap that has no way out. I would not survive the conditions.
I'm confused...when you quoted my reply, it is wha... (show quote)


I agree with you!

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Mar 30, 2021 12:21:57   #
ChJoe
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We've been using it over here for more than a year. .. Not a big deal..


Over here they say you can still be contagious even if v******ted so we are told we should be wearing masks even if v******ted. If true, then what is the point of an "I been v******ted for C***d" card????

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Mar 30, 2021 13:38:39   #
MMCS-SS_SW
 
Having a Vax JAB does not constitute "HEALTH". I have not had an Influenza injection since 1990 AND HAVE NOT HAD THE FLU/SAR 1.0/SAR2.0/C-19! what do i need a JAP for? of to participate in a global third level pharmacy validation test against MY PERMISSION?
WE do not need vax papers or software that tracks our "HEALTH" status...Big brother only want to control YOU!

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Mar 30, 2021 13:43:05   #
Linzo
 
The point is, the efficacy rate in both the P****r and Madera v*****es are around 95%, which means it lowers your chance of contracting the v***s considerably, but nothing can completely keep you from getting the v***s. Think of it like using seat belts. Can they keep you from getting k**led in every car crash? No, but do statistics show that using them lessons your chance of being k**led or having a traumatic head injury? Absolutely! So the point of the card and continuing to wear a mask shows that you have taken every step possible to protect yourself and others who come in contact with you. This should not be that difficult to comprehend. It should not be a political issue about “it’s my right to blah blah blah “. It’s a common sense issue. Do you wear a life jacket when out on a boat in the ocean or when white water rafting? I would hope so, but why? It’s not 100% guarantee that it will save your life, but it sure as heck improves your chances. Are you seeing a pattern here. Just because something isn’t 100%, it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use it. Enough said. Either you understand it or you don’t.

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Mar 30, 2021 18:10:32   #
MidnightRider
 
ChJoe wrote:
I didn't get all of your comment. Did you add to it. All I got was that it would show whether or not you are v******ted. The rest of your comment did not appear until I got your response.

I thought you were advocating for the v*****e passport, to which I say to those who want us to have them, why would they care if I was v******ted or not. If they are v******ted, how could my not being v******ted be of consequence, unless the v*****es are frauds to begin with!


Bingo!!!

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Mar 30, 2021 18:15:40   #
MidnightRider
 
Linzo wrote:
EmilyD, why do you think you shouldn’t be shunned? If I have been v******ted and meet up with someone else who has been v******ted, there is very little likelihood that I will contract the v***s from them. But if I meet up with someone who hasn’t been v******ted there is a 5% chance I could contact it, if that person has the v***s. Most people who took the v*****e just don’t want to take that chance. It is literally a life or death decision. Keep in mind you won’t be all by yourself. As reported on the PBS news hour, the latest poll had 42% of all Republicans and 80+ % of Republican white males saying that they will refuse to take the v*****e.

Regarding the lifetime health issues, problems etc., I have not heard of any from any of the v*****es being used in the United States. On the other hand, people who have gotten the v***s and survived, definitely have the possibility of long term problems. I’m not sure of the percentage, but I have seen a number of people on TV that were young athletes and middle aged marathon runners that now have trouble walking to their mailbox and are constantly tired and exhausted from doing nothing. So given those two scenarios, you probably should get the v*****e. The good news is, it’s still your choice in America. If you lived in China, it’s the government’s choice. It’s also your choice to wear a mask and social distance, so hopefully you will at least do yourself that favor.
EmilyD, why do you think you shouldn’t be shunned?... (show quote)


You didn't do your research. The odds are just as good as to contracting from a v******ted one than someone who was not. The v*****es are little more than genetic research programs. Billy's v*****e will k**l you.

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Mar 30, 2021 19:17:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ChJoe wrote:
Over here they say you can still be contagious even if v******ted so we are told we should be wearing masks even if v******ted. If true, then what is the point of an "I been v******ted for C***d" card????


Did you know that if you're v******ted for smallpox, you can still be contagious for smallpox...

V******ting for smallpox is obviously pointless.. .


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Mar 30, 2021 19:56:13   #
ChJoe
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Did you know that if you're v******ted for smallpox, you can still be contagious for smallpox...

V******ting for smallpox is obviously pointless.. .



If that were true, it would not have been eradicated. Heard immunity is a myth. Same with polio, although it is still out there.

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Mar 30, 2021 20:12:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ChJoe wrote:
If that were true, it would not have been eradicated. Heard immunity is a myth. Same with polio, although it is still out there.


Smallpox has not been eradicated...

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Mar 31, 2021 10:50:07   #
WEBCO
 
Linzo wrote:
Why can’t the people just show the card that they give you when you get v******ted? Once everyone in the country has had the opportunity to be v******ted, I hope the airlines start requiring people be v******ted before they are allowed to get on a plane.

NO ONE anywhere should have to show that they have been v******ted, to do anything. EVER

I'm willing to prove that I don't have c***d19, but nobody has the right to make me put something in my body that I don't want to.

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