moldyoldy

If you are under indictment somewhere else, you will be welcomed in ferguson.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/24/justin-cosma-ferguson-police_n_5705409.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

This probably is the wrong thread regarding Ferguson but I couldn't find a more current thread about Mike Brown.

I've always been a proponent for objectivity. I am a researcher and objectivity is a must for pure research. One must be completely neutral and allow the facts to provide the answers. If one enters into research with even a hint of thinking they know the end result before the fact....the research is tainted and of no use.

I approach news in this same fashion preferring to not prejudge, but to wait until all the facts are in. I have with held my opinion regarding the death of Mike Brown accordingly.

However,......I have just read an article about him. One that quotes some of his teachers. From grade and high school. They speak of him as a young man who, for a short time ran with the wrong crowd, but had gotten past that and had his head screwed on straight. A 180 degree turn from other articles I have read quoting others who knew him.

In this most recent article it says his family is angry at what they say is character assasination. They are speaking about the photo showing him strong arming a small person in the convenient store he is said to have robbed shortly before being shot.

My question is: how is it possible to have two such wildly divergent profiles of him out there? I can understand differences of opinion but this conflict of opinion of him is nuts. He either robbed the store or he didn't. If he did, then I wouldn't put ut past him to have attacked the cop and with that said, the other pieces fall into place. If the photo is not of him.....meaning he was not involved in the robbery, then the article I read today makes sense and adds to the credibility of those screaming he was murdered.

Does anyone else have this same hang up?

I guess my big problem is that I cannot see how two such differing profiles are being published by "news" agencies. It's getting to the point that "news" doesn't count. No matter what one wants to believe.....the "news" has coverage that supports it.

Here on this forum people fight and attack each other, becoming so vile that it is down right embarrassing, all driven by the "news".

Is anyone objective any more? Or are you here just to make asses out of each other?

moldyoldy

I have read some of the same stories, gentle giant, easily led, trying to do the right thing, while doing the wrong thing. But it is character assassination, because the cop did not know about the robbery. But if he had, he still should not have shot at him when he is running away. Most importantly, witnesses stated he was on his knees with his hands up when k**led. They left the body in the street for 4 hours while they tried to clean up the scene. Did not allow medical persons to touch him. Did not write any reports until days later when autopsy reports were released, so they could weave a story around that. The f**e ct scan showing the cops broken eye socket was exposed as fraud. The whole department seems to be corrupt and it seems to be all over the country now. I think the age of cell phones is bringing it to life, it has been hidden away forever, but no longer. That is where the anger is coming from, because now we see that it is not just our town, but every town.

moldyoldy

more crazy cops.

ORLANDO, Fla., Aug 20 (Reuters) - A Florida police officer who fatally shot an innocent bystander fired his weapon nine times during a confrontation with an armed man at the entrance of a bar, authorities reported on Wednesday.


Maria Godinez, 22, was accidentally k**led early Tuesday by a stray bullet while socializing inside the Vixen Bar in downtown Orlando, police reported.

The officer, Eduardo Sanguino, fired the shots from outside the bar where he was trying to subdue a man carrying a gun.

Only later did police realize the man's gun was unloaded.

Kody Roach, 23, had been thrown out of the bar earlier for displaying a gun. Witnesses said he was banging on the bar door with the gun and trying to get back in, according to the arrest affidavit.

Several of Sanguino's bullets struck Roach. Police Lt. Frank Nunez, who was at the scene, also was hit once in the leg, authorities said.

Roach and Nunez were treated for their injuries at a hospital.

Roach was charged with carrying a concealed firearm. Police say Roach's .40 caliber Ruger pistol fell onto the ground after he was shot. The gun, which was stolen, was functional but unloaded.

No ammunition was found in the chamber or magazine, the affidavit states.

Facebook postings indicate that Godinez, who also used the last name Castillo, was born in Guatemala City and lived in Cocoa, Florida, an hour east of Orlando.

Her cousin told the Orlando Sentinel that Godinez had been spending a girls' weekend in Orlando, visiting theme parks and a downtown entertainment zone.

Sanguino and another Orlando police officer, Jeff Angel, who initially attempted unsuccessfully to subdue Roach with a Taser, were placed on paid administrative leave while the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigates the use of force

moldyoldy

ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Two perfect examples of two less scum buckets to create havoc on others.

Sorry. No sympathy from me.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

That's a pretty big jump from Florida to Oklahoma, what does one have to do with the other?

moldyoldy

Out of control cops.

moldyoldy

You can not read.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Almost all of the bulls**t in that reply has been proven incorrect. The autopsy by a pathologist of the family's choosing found that absolutely NO bullets entered "Big Bad Mike's" body from the back.

I'm looking forward to the toxicology report. You want to make any bets on whether or not good, ole, friendly, easy-going "Big Mike" had any mood altering drugs in his system?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

You see, there lay the problem.

There are other people who knew him who say he was a thug. At least one account says he was shot while in the process of rushing at the cop, not running away. Then the matter of him being shot in the frontal plane of his body, not the back. Running away exposes the back, not the front.

And, how do you know that no reports were written until far later?

As far as leaving the body in the street: I have done forensics. The body should have been covered more quickly, but leaving it untouched until the forensic people arrived, did their work, and finished......is S.O.P. especially if whoever was in charge suspected a large scale uprising over it and if I were a cop in that town, that thought would cross my mind.

Unless you have a source more reliable than selected "news" coverage, you don't have any more facts than the rest of us. Since I have lost all confidence in the credibility of the "news/media", I'll wait to see if indeed the person seen roughing up the little guy in the photo of the robbery is Mike Brown.

moldyoldy

Shot at while running away. Arm wound possibly from the back. Not conclusive yet.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Where you at the scene?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Exactly my feeling. Inconclusive so far, so I don't defend nor accuse either way.

All we know is what we get from the news people and since I will not trust any of them as far as any of them could throw me......I'll wait.

Because of the work I do, I have seen the hospital report on the cop. His face was swollen. No fracture, but swelling. That indicates blunt force trauma.

Buford Loc: Arizona

I must agree with Trooper wait untill everything is in. To many people ready to jump to conclusion